In fact, you have 0% chance to block Sheep with Stoneskin. Armanz will drop sheep on ya anyhow. 

It can however prevent the TM drop and the stun from his A2. 

Once you consign yourself to putting Stoneskin on every arena champ, you'll have an easier time with the pirate boy. 

Or you can just try and go very very very very fast and lock him out before he gets a turn.

93 teams out of the top 200 use him? TBH, that sounds really low.

So the soloution to armanz is to have "more speed" than him or use specific gear that u can only get once a week. oof

Where are you fighting him that is getting you this upset? I mean if its regular Arena... just don't fight teams that have him if you can't counter. I avoid Hedgemon and Tormin just because they're annoying.

If it's Tag Arena, same thing. Just focus the 2 teams without him. If more than one team has him, don't fight that player.

If it's Live Arena... why aren't you banning him?

Also yeah, 93 out of 200 seems low. That's less than 50%. You know who probably is on all those teams? Taras and/or Marichka. At least 80% of the top 200 I'd imagine. 

I get he's frustrating but its not like he's completely gatekeeping content. Lastly, this is a good learning opportunity for how to build your team. If you can't go faster, look up "Go Second" team builds. Or try building Resist on champs so the TM Steal and Stun is less likely to happen.

This would definitely be my approach - or similar - the more restricted/earlier I was (that said, either picking him first in Gold 1 LA or banning is something I do a lot). 

I can imagine scenarios in which he can be frustrating for early game players to deal with but overall I still see him as a net positive in going up against whale players/teams in Tag/Live - especially later on in progression.

Horsey (marius the gallant) is a decent counter for Armanz. Not perfect, but good.

The problem is Armanz was a fusion champ, and also can be pulled from shards, while Horsey is debatably the hardest champ in the game to get.

It's a tough call, what to do about Armanz. I did the event to get him purely for his A2 to auto all of doom tower hard floors. The people who are starting AFTER he was obtainable in the Event are gonna have a tough time. 

I'm still not sure where OP is at though. I mean regular arena, just refresh when you can and fight the solo team. If he wasn't around when Armanz was released, I can't imagine he's focusing Silver Tag yet and for LA, yeah just ban him.

I do a "Go First" team so I've always been using the strategy "Be faster or die" so I'm not sure why they're rejecting that so hard, it's literally one of the two most common options for all teams OUTSIDE of Platinum Arena and top tier Tag/Live

I'm in gold 3 live, and I'd say about 90% of fights come down to whoever goes first wins

They do need to do something about the people who, out of spite, just refuse to take their turns if you go first. My favorite people are the ones who quit as soon as they don't go first. But yeah the ones who just run the clock out over and over because they know it's hopeless is just like... come on.

It especially happens if you get matched to the same person twice in a row

After reading all these comments it comes down to "ban him for live arena" or "avoid him in tag/regular arena".

My question still stands, why is there such a BS hero out here that there is no counter for. Why is there a one of a kind hero who's kit is far superior than every other champion available in the game and why is there no nerf for something like this?  Why is the soloution " avoid him lol " instead of there being an actual soloution. 

Taras and marichka are both solid champions but there are mythic champions (for example siegfrund) while it may not have the same passive where it revives the whole team on death, still has a revive which is pretty similar to marichka, where the entire team is revived with turn meter and block dmg. While it may not have the damage negation as hard as taras, there's still damage negation on the passive for the champion. You are not getting solo'd but marchika or taras alone. 

If i see marchika in a team my first thought isn't "o u know what, let me skip this" fight. Same applies for taras because u can still counter it in one way or another. 

You have a higher chance of putting up a fight with a mythic champion than u do with a legendary who can solo your whole team just because it goes first and stun locks u for life. If it doesn't stun lock u, u have no turn meter on your entire team, or u live the good ol sheep life, and if u get past all of that, u still have the good ol A1 that puts ur skills on cooldown.  

There has always been an OP champ. I'm not saying that makes the situation any better, but Armanz is just the latest in a string that goes all the way back to the beginning.

If you were to go back not quite 2 years you'd see a ton of posts from people who started just after UDK's 7day log in ended complaining that he makes arena impossible for new players. And they weren't wrong then either.

And a ton of posts saying monkey is impossible to counter because he can 1-shot a whole team.

There are ways to coutner Armanz, and you can try to avoid him if you can't manage them. Or you can accept that you don't have good enough gear, *yet*, and work on progressing your account.

Is it fair? No. But it's always been a part of the game that way, and I don't see it ever changing in any game that isn't 100% free-to-pay

I'm curious on these counters for armanz, do share them. This is what this whole post is about. I have seen people on youtube making videos on countering armanz and then getting straight up their teams handed back to them by him. 

If your point of "good enough gear" is to outspeed him, then this comment is useless. I have a 600 RES grazzur irongut who can still get countered by him even if i add a +80 RES aura, and again, block damage, block debuffs, or any other kind of buffs are useless when they can simply get removed on the entire team by the good ol sheep.

I fondly look back on the Rotos/Siphi/Nekhret days

(no, no I don't)

I don't know your roster but Graazur is typically speaking going to be a very meh choice for an arena champion these days.

It is useless in arena but its also one of the higher res champions I have. It was built for bommal on hard tower. My point being, even with a high res champion its impossible to get anywhere with armanz.

The counter is mostly "be faster and cc him"

There's untouchable sets you can make in the forge, makes the champ immune to debuffs for 2 turns. Or deflection that has a chance to reflect the debuff back on the attacker. There are champs like Ronda and Archmage who are immune to tm reduction. Champs like Tormin who can freeze him in response.

Polymorph blessing.

Lately, I've been having luck using a very-high resistance Wixwel to counter Cap'n Jack: he can keep him provoke locked for the entire fight with his a1.

There's a guy in my clan with an 870 res Duchess Lilitu.

I probably have a couple of nukers who could 1-shot your whole team, even if they were in stone-skin. Just because I built them very high-end gear I've spent hundreds of hours grinding for.

Is that any less fair than not being able to counter Jack's speed because you don't have the gear *yet*?

I'd argue the problem isn;t really the champ; it's the way players get matched-up in arenas

Ok. First of all, I get your previous argument of "He can solo my team" because he does AOE TM Steal +Stun, so if fast enough can keep doing that and wear you down. I've seen it and it is a thing. HOWEVER, you cannot THEN dismiss High Res as a poor option. IF he has to keep doing that, he has to keep rolling a % Chance to land his ability and it WILL fail unless you have the worst RNG luck.

Second, BUFF STRIPPING and his SHEEP are both subject to Resist. It says "Cannot be Blocked" and that is IMPORTANT Wording because that means it can still be Resisted. 

THIRD, if your gear is that much less than the teams you're fighting that the MAJORITY of Armanz you face can fully lock you down, something is wrong and you're at a tier you shouldn't be in.

Fourth, Armanz can get sheeped himself with his A2 because it does Stun. He can get Sheeped because his A3 removes buffs. So again, back to your "Lock my team down" nonsense, he will sheep himself if he's going that often unless you don't have ANYONE on your team with Polymorph. Even a 0 Accuracy ability can fail, same for 0 Resist.

Fifth, GO FIRST is a build. A very VERY common build. If you don't go first, you usually lose. Sometimes you have more speed, sometimes you don't.

There are a LOT of champions in this game who have a skillset that makes them unique and lets them do some nonsense that ONLY they can do. You act like there's "No counter" to Armanz and I just gave you 3: Polymorph Blessing, High Resist and/or High Speed. That's the META right there, for all Arena. Not just Armanz teams but every team uses at least two of those things.

So yes, Armanz can *technically* do what you're saying IF you ignore your 3 options for countering it. That doesn't make him broken, it just makes him frustrating.

PS: Youtube is your friend 

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Honestly, wixwell is something I hadn't thought of so I am going to give this a shot. (Thanks for this tip/suggestion). I tried a 9/9 protection gear on jingwon just so his passive could put a protected debuff block on my entire team after armanz's first AOE stun. A protected block debuff and the passive counter attack leading into a provoke sounds like something that might just work. 

Unfortunately I haven't had luck pulling tormin, plarium likes to bless me with jingwons and warlords most of the time from my void pulls. 

getting one shot by nukers is fine, if you're doing a setup to get ur nuker going then that's not a single champion out here beating an entire team. If you have a 365+ speed nuker out here one shotting everyone then props to you. 

I did give archmage a try after watching a youtube video for it, unfortunately it didn't turn out very well still. 

Unfortunately no rhonda in my roster to test her out.