Yes, yes, I know they are great Champs. However, my point is I can auto Spider 20 without CH's or RG's. This happened because I was finishing my 2 CH's and 1 Royal Guard. I was not yet complete on getting the extra 20% for lv. 6 mastery on my 2nd CH but I did have 218% crit dmg. and 75% crit. rate. So I thought I would try a run. I got blew up. My CH's were getting smashed and I was running the oppostite affinity tank (and she is the best, Infernal Baroness). So I was Appvalley  just messing around with line-u https://vlc.onl/ ps and this worked, very well too. I can auto in in 4-6 min. (the picture was my first run on manual I was taking my time trying to figure out what I wanted to do) and have a 90% success rate. All the Champs except IB are in tradition CB gear Vamp sets. Is in Vamp set and Res. I found that you don't want any speed on your Tank as it will only make the counter come off faster. Tweakbox