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Thoughts on the HPBurn / Stoneskin change?

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16 июнь 2023, 23:1016.06.23
25.06.20
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Thoughts on the HPBurn / Stoneskin change?

Specifically for Live Arena. Worth having one in the back of your pocket just in case? For now it doesn't seem like anyone is doing my team of full stoneskin lightning cage, but ...

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16 июнь 2023, 23:1616.06.23
01.11.22
65

Some of this has gotten way out of hand and needed a counter control besides a glass cannon like Giaus. Haven't had the right scenario yet but will follow up when I see it.

- Coag

17 июнь 2023, 01:4017.06.23
19.01.21
647

Seems pointless and like another desperate attempt to avoid admitting that the incinerate blessing is a complete failure. I don't see this budging the meta, or even making it sway slightly. You'd still need a whole setup just for HP burn and then pray that you're fast enough, accurate enough, that the enemy is all decked out in stone skin and that they don't have any type of cleansing skill on their side. I don't see that risk/reward calculation working out.

17 июнь 2023, 02:5417.06.23
24.04.22
820

5x hp burn dmg could be decent not great , incinerate blessing needs a buff still

harleQuinnModerator
17 июнь 2023, 04:3417.06.23
24.02.19
8091

Seems like a buff to Marichka to me

dthorne04Moderator
17 июнь 2023, 06:0617.06.23
17 июнь 2023, 06:06(отредактировано)
30.12.20
7592
harleQuinn

Seems like a buff to Marichka to me

was just thinking to myself today how underpowered she is, too

sorely needed buff 🙏

17 июнь 2023, 13:5717.06.23
19.11.22
619

Good luck trying to land those HP burn debuffs on those high resistance stoneskin champions!

17 июнь 2023, 16:1017.06.23
19.12.19
6982
Fathertron

Good luck trying to land those HP burn debuffs on those high resistance stoneskin champions!

Dreng doesn't give a shit about your resistance, pvp Dreng incoming!

17 июнь 2023, 16:1617.06.23
25.06.20
7026

So, natively HPBurn is 5% hp per tick. 5x makes it 25%. Combine with the blessing at 5* and you're at 50%. Means two ticks will kill anyone in stoneskin.

Remember that you don't need to land the hpburn on the person who has the high resist. EG if you are against a Duchess in Stoneskin, just land the burn on two others on the team and that's a dead reviver. 

harleQuinnModerator
17 июнь 2023, 16:2617.06.23
24.02.19
8091
Fathertron

Good luck trying to land those HP burn debuffs on those high resistance stoneskin champions!

You don't even need to land it on everyone. Just on the nuker, speed lead, debuffers.

HP burn affects everyone on the team per tick.

18 июнь 2023, 03:5618.06.23
604

This type of fix on a fail of game part is very dangerous. 500% plus ? If someone made a wrong step specially here , creating bad blessing types which is unusable at PvP. Slap to player faces here, we made it we create a ridiculous strong "god" stuff, instead of forgetting the nonsense that they had invented. Next time the resist/accuracy checking buff will be 2000% percentage at polymorph? 

18 июнь 2023, 11:4118.06.23
11.02.22
535
kramaswamy.kr

So, natively HPBurn is 5% hp per tick. 5x makes it 25%. Combine with the blessing at 5* and you're at 50%. Means two ticks will kill anyone in stoneskin.

Remember that you don't need to land the hpburn on the person who has the high resist. EG if you are against a Duchess in Stoneskin, just land the burn on two others on the team and that's a dead reviver. 

Maybe a fast Artak in relentless could make this work. A3, take extra turn, A2 activation on everyone.... Will that be enough? I wonder :P

ShortOnSkillzModerator
18 июнь 2023, 23:5018.06.23
24.06.19
3635
kramaswamy.kr

So, natively HPBurn is 5% hp per tick. 5x makes it 25%. Combine with the blessing at 5* and you're at 50%. Means two ticks will kill anyone in stoneskin.

Remember that you don't need to land the hpburn on the person who has the high resist. EG if you are against a Duchess in Stoneskin, just land the burn on two others on the team and that's a dead reviver. 

3% per tick.

19 июнь 2023, 18:2519.06.23
26.05.22
614

I have been finding Drex more and more effective on my arena teams. He is so hard to kill and I come up against teams designed to lock me down so I cannot attack but their team is squishy. Their team basically just sits there and kills itself while I throw out an accasional attack and keep my team alive. 


I am sure at higher levels this wouldn't work but in Silver III in Live it seems to work ok. 

20 июнь 2023, 12:0720.06.23
20 июнь 2023, 12:11(отредактировано)
15.01.21
1256

It might find a use at the top end.

Its vulnerable to the same strategy as bombs, block debuffs and cleanse.

I think i am the only person who didnt think stoneskin a big issue, its sheep i hated with a passion.


Although trips is joking, i am considering building a super quick dreng now.

8 июль 2023, 13:2608.07.23
604

SHEEP & HP BURN POST CHANGE IS IT ENOUGH? 

Seems too me, we still have two useless "PvP" blessing. HP Burn damage increased up 500% but zero results.

How tested this dear Plarium ? This would be the new Stoneskin counter when, the Stoneskinn accessories coming which will surely destroy the only one Stoneskin counter aka. bomb teams.

What is the plan for the two useless, Poison and Hp burn blessing??? They just exist to look nice on the monitor screen? Or Plarium will increase the damage percentage to 10000000%, step by step until they manage to achieve something little success?

8 июль 2023, 16:1108.07.23
19.12.19
6982
Trevor Wilson

It might find a use at the top end.

Its vulnerable to the same strategy as bombs, block debuffs and cleanse.

I think i am the only person who didnt think stoneskin a big issue, its sheep i hated with a passion.


Although trips is joking, i am considering building a super quick dreng now.


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Dreng, burning down the house in G4 as we speak!!!

8 июль 2023, 16:4608.07.23
604

Or Rotos killed them one by one.

dthorne04Moderator
8 июль 2023, 16:5308.07.23
30.12.20
7592
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Or Rotos killed them one by one.

Rotos, famous Harima slayer 

8 июль 2023, 17:1308.07.23
604
dthorne04

Rotos, famous Harima slayer 

Harima the just alone there ? Your eyes...

I bet , there was not many stoneskin was after Ukko movements, and Dreng can hit hard without HP Burn too.  And bet too, Siphi with Rotos supercombo there is they key , not Dreng. 80% nuker there make more damage.

And that sure when see someone on the damage points. Siphi started the match, was not a big fight maybe two round and maybe just Harima had Stoneskin what removed Ukko instantly or just was just 1 turn long. But there sure was Rotos the star. This type of group for me maybe 4-8 sec with auto.

8 июль 2023, 19:0008.07.23
25.06.20
7026

Also - I haven't been able to confirm this, but it feels like the HPBurn change doesn't ignore stoneskin - it just does 5x damage *to* stoneskin. If that's the case, it's just as worthless as before.