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Zero Accuracy Armiger/Coldheart for Sandbox?

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17 дек. 2022, 15:2317.12.22
11.02.21
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Zero Accuracy Armiger/Coldheart for Sandbox?

People discount Armiger in the Sandbox for his A1 that cuts TM, but what if you build him with no Accuracy? Just put everything into speed and cdmg to proc that A2 every other turn. 

You think he'll be ok as a poor man's Acrizia?

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17 дек. 2022, 16:0617.12.22
19.12.19
6988

Yed. I think armiger id s decent idea

17 дек. 2022, 16:0717.12.22
17 дек. 2022, 16:08(отредактировано)
15.10.20
2041

For me, the zero accuracy Armiger doesn't make any sense. Even if you focus on speed and critdam (what is totally fine), you can achieve the accuracy needed by Great Hall (80), Banner main stat (96), Amulet substat (~ 20) and one or two other substats among your 6 artifacts.

You don't fight Mithrala in arena with Armiger, there is no need for 600 acc or something like this. He is an PvE champ, mostly for FK and Spider, getting ~ 250 accuracy is no problem for any champ. There is nothing you would lose for your main purpose of making him a damage dealer if you add 250 acc.

17 дек. 2022, 16:1417.12.22
11.02.21
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Skadi

For me, the zero accuracy Armiger doesn't make any sense. Even if you focus on speed and critdam (what is totally fine), you can achieve the accuracy needed by Great Hall (80), Banner main stat (96), Amulet substat (~ 20) and one or two other substats among your 6 artifacts.

You don't fight Mithrala in arena with Armiger, there is no need for 600 acc or something like this. He is an PvE champ, mostly for FK and Spider, getting ~ 250 accuracy is no problem for any champ. There is nothing you would lose for your main purpose of making him a damage dealer if you add 250 acc.

I think you're missing some context....this is for the Sand...castle? Dungeon? What's the new dungeon called where the boss destroys your Max HP if you cut his turn meter? I'm saying make him not cut the turn meter, so no ACC Banner, no ACC on Amulet....deliberately compromise his Accuracy so he doesn't cut the turn meter and thus, doesn't lose Max HP.

17 дек. 2022, 16:1617.12.22
11.02.21
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Balltazer

I think you're missing some context....this is for the Sand...castle? Dungeon? What's the new dungeon called where the boss destroys your Max HP if you cut his turn meter? I'm saying make him not cut the turn meter, so no ACC Banner, no ACC on Amulet....deliberately compromise his Accuracy so he doesn't cut the turn meter and thus, doesn't lose Max HP.

Necropolis...that's the one. 

17 дек. 2022, 16:1917.12.22
15.10.20
2041
Balltazer

I think you're missing some context....this is for the Sand...castle? Dungeon? What's the new dungeon called where the boss destroys your Max HP if you cut his turn meter? I'm saying make him not cut the turn meter, so no ACC Banner, no ACC on Amulet....deliberately compromise his Accuracy so he doesn't cut the turn meter and thus, doesn't lose Max HP.

I never heard the term Sandbox for Necropolis before... 👻

But yes, the only acc you can't discard are the 80 from Great Hall, and that shouldn't be enough to land his tm decrease.

17 дек. 2022, 16:2217.12.22
11.02.21
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Skadi

I never heard the term Sandbox for Necropolis before... 👻

But yes, the only acc you can't discard are the 80 from Great Hall, and that shouldn't be enough to land his tm decrease.

I hardly ever run the dungeon, so never paid attention to its name. I just call it sandbox. 

dthorne04Moderator
17 дек. 2022, 23:0717.12.22
30.12.20
7602

Armiger can definitely work as a max HP hitter in Sand Devil earlier, though I would imagine the further we push up that we are going to run into a gearing related wall. 

Coldheart has some serious drawbacks and if we accidentally TM drop, it's a wrap. Her non A3s being multi hitters seems very prohibitive to me given the mechanics.

18 дек. 2022, 03:2718.12.22
11.02.21
932
dthorne04

Armiger can definitely work as a max HP hitter in Sand Devil earlier, though I would imagine the further we push up that we are going to run into a gearing related wall. 

Coldheart has some serious drawbacks and if we accidentally TM drop, it's a wrap. Her non A3s being multi hitters seems very prohibitive to me given the mechanics.

Yeah, she seems very handicapped by it. Armiger sounds somewhet promising, though.

I'm between being intrigued by the new dungeon's mechanics and not having any pieces left to ascend. All but 2 of them rolled garbage stats, and the dungeon has nothing of value to me at the moment. If I had infinite energy, I wouldn't mind exploring it, but between current fusion and generally better options, right now it's mostly hypothetical. 

dthorne04Moderator
18 дек. 2022, 03:4518.12.22
18 дек. 2022, 03:47(отредактировано)
30.12.20
7602
Balltazer

Yeah, she seems very handicapped by it. Armiger sounds somewhet promising, though.

I'm between being intrigued by the new dungeon's mechanics and not having any pieces left to ascend. All but 2 of them rolled garbage stats, and the dungeon has nothing of value to me at the moment. If I had infinite energy, I wouldn't mind exploring it, but between current fusion and generally better options, right now it's mostly hypothetical. 

Yep, completely understand this. Still somewhat chilling out on it due to fusion and not wanting to do all the things in the game always, but I'll be changing that shortly. 

I will test out Armiger for the lulz, though.

18 дек. 2022, 04:3818.12.22
11.10.20
367

Armiger can definitely be used on lower levels, but seeing how those levels are pretty easy, you can farm them  with almost any DPS. And, as @dthorne04 mentioned, the higher up you go, the harder it is to sufficiently scale his stats, considering his base stats are very poor. If it were me, I wouldn't re-gear him as pure DPS just for Sandy the Sleeping Devil unless you absolutely have no other DPS. Which I don't believe.

18 дек. 2022, 15:0318.12.22
11.02.21
932
Tyr Anasazi

Armiger can definitely be used on lower levels, but seeing how those levels are pretty easy, you can farm them  with almost any DPS. And, as @dthorne04 mentioned, the higher up you go, the harder it is to sufficiently scale his stats, considering his base stats are very poor. If it were me, I wouldn't re-gear him as pure DPS just for Sandy the Sleeping Devil unless you absolutely have no other DPS. Which I don't believe.

I am currently using Seer, waiting for a 6* split soul for Husk, my RG is squishy. Standard nukers don't seem to kill it fast enough, even Rotos kinda slows down by stage 15.

18 дек. 2022, 20:5518.12.22
25.06.20
7026

Easier to just solo farm the stages 11-14, depending on who you are using. Solo = more time spent during sleeping phase = more time to heal back to full.