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23 июнь 2016, 09:4023.06.16
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Captains, the reward system on Prizes has been updated!

Captains, the reward system on Prizes has been updated. Let us take a closer look at the essentials to crack that nut once and for all.


IMPORTANT: The following applies only to new Prizes, i.e. the ones you have not engaged yet.


1. Why did we decide to update the system?

We have always received a lot of complains that Prizes “don’t work” or “work badly” or that “the rewards have changed”. Some players feel that the way rewards are issued is unfair when they see other players’ screenshots of big rewards. One of the major problems is that some sailors can lose their entire armies before they get a decent reward. This is especially true for new players that do not have enough expertise with Prizes or more experienced players that engage higher level Prizes where the intervals between good rewards are significantly longer compared to that on lower level ones. We have made a decision to adjust the reward algorithm so nobody finds themselves in such stressful situations.


2. What will happen to my current progress?

Nothing. Again, your current progress will not be affected in any way. None of your efforts were futile.


3. Why do I get smaller rewards when suffering big losses?

From now on, you will be receiving a reward each and every time you win. It is time to say “Goodbye” to Prizes not yielding any rewards! Brethren Court Engineers are convinced that every victory must be rewarded! Smaller rewards do NOT mean that your Units were lost for nothing: any victory may reveal that there was a huge army held captive at the Prize you have just conquered!

While under the old system you would be left empty-handed, now you will receive a guaranteed smaller reward (we mean Units!). Additionally, if you win on 10 Prizes, the cumulative reward will be slightly bigger than before.

Please note that you may not receive a reward at low-level Prizes.

4. How will smaller, more frequent rewards affect the regular reward algorithm?

You will need to win at slightly more Prizes, Captains!


5. Will there still be big rewards? Really big rewards?

Absolutely! Every victory at a Prize is a chance to win a huge reward! The chance of getting it is now slightly lower, but the overall number of rewards remained the same. In other words, you will be receiving the same reward, but it will be split into more parts than before.


We would like to assure our players that we are being very cautious with this update. Our main goal is to not tamper with the existing balance in any way but to make the reward system even more convenient for our players.


It is important to bear in mind that every player is at their own individual stage on the way to getting the reward, and the benefits of the new system may not be apparent right away. It might take you some time to evaluate the new system and to figure out how it works. The algorithm is new, and adjusting your strategy to it will require certain effort. One thing we know for sure: it will be worth your while!


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23 июнь 2016, 14:4223.06.16
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Guys,

I understand your emotions, however, let's take a closer look at the situation:

1) If you have ever touched a Prize (even with one Unit), it won't be affected by the change.

2) You will still get big payouts which you were used to get before.

3) In addition to big payouts you will receive small mini-payouts after raiding each Prize.

4) Small payouts will help you to keep a certain number of Units in your army even if the big payout is far away.

If you have any questions, please ask.
23 июнь 2016, 16:4423.06.16
23 июнь 2016, 16:46(отредактировано)
04.03.16
67

I still don't see the utility of the small amounts of units in exchange of more delayed big payouts.


Two days ago I sank all my troops on the Prizes. It was MY fault. I tightened so much the string. So I had 2 options: Wait to rebuild my troops or pay for some of them and hit again the prizes with the hope they give me back a considerable part of my troops and keep playing. I chose the second option and get a big payout back.


I paid a big amount of money to be back on the game and now you change the rules? Now that I have figured out how to approach the Prizes? I have now to learn how it works again? I think it is not fair. I'm disappointed.


I have now the amount of troops that had allowed me to play Prizes carefully getting back all what I have inside the Prizes' bank slowly. It is now that amount  enough or I will sink everything again?


We are playing Money, it is not fair you change the rules.

I'm very disappointed.



23 июнь 2016, 16:4723.06.16
04.03.16
67
This is not fair.
23 июнь 2016, 19:1623.06.16
28 авг. 2019, 12:03(отредактировано)
1
I had a level 87 who has been playing the game  since 2014 quit because he is not happy with the new prize system. He really loved playing the prizes, but says he has had enough. I have also had another BH contact me about holding a boycott of in game purchases to protest the new changes to the prizes. So I venture to say the early reviews of the new system have not been positive.
23 июнь 2016, 20:5123.06.16
06.08.15
3

I do not read the Forum very often…. And again I am reminded why that is... and will continue.


I may spend some money to buy some rubies, because I can’t wait to try this routine. And to reward Plarium (and thank) Plarium.

23 июнь 2016, 20:5123.06.16
24 июнь 2016, 00:53(отредактировано)
16.05.15
65

I have been off prizes to build for higher level needs
i am going to work from bottom to top..

if the system works I should be able to finish them all..
I had planned on Prizing again with the next prize ransack tournament..

that is today..  the way I play prizes.. nothing should change..  

if you understand prizes and they have not changed the final payout then it may take several days to get to that big payoff we were used to getting 3 times a day.

either you have enough troops to turn them all over or you don't.

if you don't, get to work and build more troops for free..

. I have seen some famous Prize Players quit cause they never learned the game from ground up.. all someone has to do is build and keep going

No amount of money spent makes you understand game better..  if you do not have patience you are doomed..

And prizes should never be the only reason you play.


Update  0:44 UTC now

OK.....   ran some prizes..I did 2, 8, 9, 10, 14, 14, 15, 17, 18,  48, 49, 50, 52, paid little bits and 55 paid me a lot more than I lost.

So this seems to work so far.. i do not know if it is equitable yet... so i found a payout point about where i should have anyway..

I can't say it does not work.. - I'll keep goin' and we will see what happens. I was wrong about days till a big payout..

I agree with the guy below so many do not understand prizes.. but i was doing all the prizes before from 1 on up.. funny thing is you it real hard to do prizes wrong the way it is set up.. either you have enough troops or you don't..


hey i thought prizes maxed out at 115 now? is that guy below me saying he is at level 130 prize??  

23 июнь 2016, 21:1623.06.16
18 июль 2019, 12:05(отредактировано)
03.01.15
18

this system is awfull, why do i want to smash my boats in exchange for tiny little ammounts.... with little ammounts comes the need to do smaller and smaller prize levels with smaller and smaller payouts.. and when finishing already yellow barred levels, it does NOT always give a prtize payout.

now I am up to lev 130 so I know what I am on about... why do you guys (game makers) always have to fix something that is not broken... please put it back like it was... the people that moan about it are the ones that have not read/asked how to do them properly or what kind of units to use ect..

now it seems that those like me that have bothered to read and learn how to do the prizes are now being penalised by those who have not and are still like the man above about to start on a lev 1 prize when his gaming level is in the 70'S !!!!!

it is a ridiculous concept.... PLEASE PUT IT BACK.


23 июнь 2016, 21:5623.06.16
18 июль 2019, 12:05(отредактировано)
03.01.15
18

now one of my brotherhood has quit over it and he is a level 87 player.. he has left our BH and stopped for good, this is rediculous.... i am level 86 player and close to packing it in myself over this DEBACLE.... you are forcing the hand of my good mates who have been playing together with me for years. into making game ending decisions..


23 июнь 2016, 22:4323.06.16
27.03.14
1654

BlackBart said:


WHO wants to give it a chance when people are quitting over it !!!!!.,. Just put it back and stop messing us gamers around....please.

if they are quitting over something silly as this 

then they wasn't that into the game anyways....


Give the prizes a chance this method is already been in the other plarium.com games

for over a year now, it's just being brought to PTOF

if they learned how to work this small change im sure we can...............
23 июнь 2016, 22:5323.06.16
18 июль 2019, 12:05(отредактировано)
03.01.15
18
wow.. how can you say that someone who has attained level 87 'isn't that into the game' and how can you say that its silly thing to quit over !!!! they lost 8000 frfgates to end up with 400 juggs... no wonder NOBODY wants this change... and how condesending of you
24 июнь 2016, 00:2124.06.16
27.03.14
1654

BlackBart said:


wow.. how can you say that someone who has attained level 87 'isn't that into the game' and how can you say that its silly thing to quit over !!!! they lost 8000 frfgates to end up with 400 juggs... no wonder NOBODY wants this change... and how condesending of you

I understand your frustration, and i do understand this game can get very annoying really fast when updates are added

But this update wasn't changed in how we banked, the banking is all the same, and if your friend did not get paid what they where suppose to

then it's still calculated in the banking you will still get paid eventually as you did before, i believe this was added for the smaller players, so they always got something, many of the smallers ones don't play the banking system like the old sea pirates, so this was added to help them,


24 июнь 2016, 00:4224.06.16
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This update does seem to benefit the smaller players, and those that don't know what they're doing.  Some of us worked years to perfect a system for hitting the LH.  Even with explaining it some people still couldn't grasp the concept.  Now everyone gets a reward every time, where's the skill in that?  Blasphemy, your comment on not being into this game is a little offensive as I'm a lvl 86 on Kabam's site and am conflicted myself on continuing with this madness.  So in turn, I assume you log in for an hr or so a day then move on to another game, I've been playing this game for over 3 yrs and am logged in an avg of 6 to 8 hrs a day, at least.  Needless to say, I've seen many updates and changes to the game.  I have always just stuck it out and moved forward, this however is one change I can't have Plarium's back on.  Those of us that have softened a bunch of Prizes will not get payouts on them so they really get setback.  Those of us that recently have hit a Prize and are in the middle of building towards our next are setback.  Those that are close to a reward now could have that affected by these smaller rewards which will affect what lvl they should hit next etc.  It was a HUGE update to just throw at us with no notice, and as far as it being in other games on Plarium, who cares.  I'm a Pirate at heart and only play this game.  So now, I leave the Forum as another disgruntled voice.

24 июнь 2016, 00:4424.06.16
07.05.15
3

I try to keep an open mind on changes but so far I am less than impressed...:(







24 июнь 2016, 01:5624.06.16
27.03.14
1654

You see prizes still work on banking system ....... 

Whenever you "clear" the bank you will get a "BIG" payout... 

if the bank is not cleared you will get a consolidation prize which will be deducted from the "Big" payout...... 


Now again, if you aren't getting the "BIG" prize that you deserve then keep tapping the lighthouse

eventually you will get paid, the system is still the same, they just added a small reward 

for the smaller players that like to whine alot because they don't win anything 

So now the devolopers added this so now even the little ones get something, even though the the banking doesn't add up


24 июнь 2016, 02:2124.06.16
04.03.16
67

Sorry, the small rewards have no sense. It just make more difficult to track the prizes. I was also a low level and never needed it. It is not fair that because some beginners complain, the game changes the rules. And sorry but this feature will not stop their complaints.

It take time (and money) to learn and figure out how to approach the prizes. It is not fair to change the rules of a thing that actually works OK.

 Please consider to put the previous algorithm back.


24 июнь 2016, 02:3524.06.16
04.03.16
67

A change that I noticed these last 2 days: When the Prizes appear again, they are not spread evenly. For example today I have only one offense prize between the levels 30-39  that is where I like to start because the size of my current army.


I have only a level 36, preceded by a level 23 and followed by a level 40. Before this update I had a plenty of prizes in that range. Starting at level 40 I have to risk so much. I can't enjoy the prizes anymore as I use to.


Please, put back the previous algorithm.

24 июнь 2016, 05:2824.06.16
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and the bad thing about this is we knew how to keep up with the banking to win prizes. so you've totally screwed our method of doing these. I did a level 77 prize earlier in which I should have won 3 to 4 thousand of juggernauts, ship of the line...Instead I only won 298 juggernauts. So I spent far more doing this prize than I won...SO tell me, how is this going to benefit us????Stupid changes. Stupid game...I'm done..see ya plarium, hope it was worth losing another player
24 июнь 2016, 05:4024.06.16
05.09.15
5
OK  I'm prepared to give it a trail.  In reading what Cigneous  has posted I tend to agree with him somewhat.  In all fairness to the game I will have a go and see what happens..
24 июнь 2016, 05:4824.06.16
13.04.15
83
Blasphemy said:

BlackBart said:


WHO wants to give it a chance when people are quitting over it !!!!!.,. Just put it back and stop messing us gamers around....please.

if they are quitting over something silly as this 

then they wasn't that into the game anyways....


Give the prizes a chance this method is already been in the other plarium.com games

for over a year now, it's just being brought to PTOF

if they learned how to work this small change im sure we can...............
This isn't something silly. I've been in this game almost 2 years, and I had my prizes down to an art. I kept up with my banking, I knew what I had to lose before I won again and generally I could tell you which prize I would win big on again. I've put all the other silly as you called it, changes to this game behind me in the past, everytime there is a change it always means their sticking it to us the loyal players. And yes I've been in this game as much as 18 hrs. a day, you can't get more serious about a game as that. I've grown a BH into the top 10, and No this is the last straw for me. I count on my large prize wins, especially when I have to pay back so much to get to the point where I will win big again...If these smaller players would come into their BH's chat rooms and learn the game, learn how to do prizes, and just the basics of the game, then they would have better knowledge of how everything in the game works. But no they come in, play a few days and want to complain that they aren't given their dues? well what about us??? the long term players? The ones who have spend a fortune on this game? Who were dedicated players? and no Blasphemy, this isn't silly to me. THis is just another screw you at the players from plarium. Over the last year they started taking this and that away, then when they came out with these stupid bastions, I called it the money pit then. So then, they took away our Brotherhood adventures. So we don't get those rewards but once or twice a week, these are rewards that benefit the smaller player more than us the larger level ones. And now our prizes. Sorry, this isn't silly to me. I counted on my large prize wins. I don't want these puny wins each time. I would much rather have a large win within the 4 to 5 prizes each time. So yea, your going to lose a lot of players over this, and it's not silly. This is the most serious attack against the long time players in my book...I've been biding my time, waiting things out, well this may just be my last hurrah also. I've been a total dedicated pirate. But will not continue to allow plarium to just slap us down continually. But I will say this, even if I do stay in this game, they won't get another penny out of my pockets for these ruby packages. SO in terms they have have cut off their noses to spite their own faces....But their loss...
24 июнь 2016, 15:1824.06.16
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Mule said:

This is a no sense. The small amounts of units doesn't benefit anyone

Was very hard to figure out how to approach the prizes. Their behavior has changed. We play money on this. It is not fair you change the rules

Please PUT BACK the PREVIOUS PRIZES!

We are not planning to change the current system. I'm sure you'll get used to it soon. 

I understand that you may feel confused about this new Update. However, that's what our players have asked for a long time. They've asked us to make Prizes pay out each time you hit them.

Now they do. But it doesn't mean that these small payouts are the only payouts you will ever receive. You will still get full payouts as soon as your Bank is filled enough.

So now you have:

1) Mini-payouts to make sure you will always have some Units to throw into the fight.

2) Big payouts which you will receive as usual.

I don't see any negative point here. And you?