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to Plarium - an objective request regarding second revoker nerf

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28 янв. 2026, 15:5428.01.26
30.01.24
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to Plarium - an objective request regarding second revoker nerf

When the 2nd nerf of revoker was announced recently I was ready to wait and see how it plays out. However just a few minutes ago I saw a youtube video by content creator Omniverse ( https://youtu.be/e73N1r5Dzng ) that pits burrow beam against other weapons, and it made me rethink that a tiny bit.

Both with mods (beginning of video) and without mods (here: https://youtu.be/e73N1r5Dzng?t=168 ) at close range, burrow beam puts up a good fight against revokers. In one case it is a draw, and in another it just narrowly loses . Note that the comparison video includes burrow beam's 1-second firing delay, so if both were pitted against each other while firing burrow beam would have won.

This led me to rethinking my ambivalence about the revoker nerf. Not in that sense that it should or shouldn't be nerfed, but that there should be a very objective criterion for determining what constitutes a good nerf. That criterion is simple - a close quarter weapon at close quarters should not be defeated by a mid range weapon. There are exceptions to this rule in my opinion. It's understandable if burst weapons like EM rifle or storm racks outperform a close range weapon that deals damage over time. But in general, non-burst close quarter weapons should usually win against non-burst other weapons at close quarters.

Now ideally a simple rule such as this should apply with respect to all weapons, but I realize that such an exercise might be too complicated for you guys at this stage, so maybe you can use the Omniverse comparison video as an inspiration and apply this rule for just a subset of weapons to compare revoker against. As a simple example, don't nerf revoker to the point that the top close quarters weapon loses to the top beam weapon at close range!

Honestly burrow beam shouldn't have been this strong to begin with. You know that and all your players know that. But seeing that you're not going to nerf it for a year or two, at least don't nerf other weapons to the extent that they are outclassed even in their strongest conditions.

Note that this is not a plea to stop nerfing revokers. It is a plea to do it objectively and I've provided one idea of how you might do it objectively.

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28 янв. 2026, 16:5028.01.26
24.04.22
151

Feels like they did this just to get people buying burrow beam faster. Though not just burrow beam but that or any of the weapons they've buffed recently.

28 янв. 2026, 18:5128.01.26
30.01.24
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Guzzler

Feels like they did this just to get people buying burrow beam faster. Though not just burrow beam but that or any of the weapons they've buffed recently.

Yeah but I felt I have to try :-).

CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
29 янв. 2026, 12:1629.01.26
10.02.23
3163

Thanks a lot for this feedback, a lot of interesting points here. Be sure that it will definitely be passed on to our devs!

As for now, I think the state of affairs and the Meta will be clearer when the rebalance is out. 

31 янв. 2026, 07:2731.01.26
23.08.23
1

1. Game needs to rotate the best weapons in game so that it can survive financially. 

2. It was Arc torrent ,  then Ember Gun , now Revokers. 

But how to avoid having Eclipse + Revokers dominating the games, without nerfing them. I have a suggestion.

Make the game like a paper ,sicisors , stone style game, may be we can have one or two weapons that can stop revokers, but revokers only. Say Autocannon is weak aginst everything but Revokers. something in that direction. 

3. you mentioned Burrow beams are taking out revokers right, but we are not seeing Burrow beams players demointing MVP and most of all , the one for all games, so Burrow beam is not over powered AT ALL. It is that simple. And most of all,Burrow beam is an expensive weapons that carry 4 implants, which meams it take you around 60USD more to max out that weapons , so it should rightfully be stronger than Revokers. but sadly, it does not seems to be the case. 

4. I invested heavily in this game, but when Revokers were getting 40 kills in one for all games, i gave up playing for 6 months. The game became down right stupid. 

31 янв. 2026, 13:1131.01.26
24.04.22
151

1. Game needs to rotate the best weapons in game so that it can survive financially. 

2. It was Arc torrent ,  then Ember Gun , now Revokers. 

But how to avoid having Eclipse + Revokers dominating the games, without nerfing them. I have a suggestion.

Make the game like a paper ,sicisors , stone style game, may be we can have one or two weapons that can stop revokers, but revokers only. Say Autocannon is weak aginst everything but Revokers. something in that direction. 

3. you mentioned Burrow beams are taking out revokers right, but we are not seeing Burrow beams players demointing MVP and most of all , the one for all games, so Burrow beam is not over powered AT ALL. It is that simple. And most of all,Burrow beam is an expensive weapons that carry 4 implants, which meams it take you around 60USD more to max out that weapons , so it should rightfully be stronger than Revokers. but sadly, it does not seems to be the case. 

4. I invested heavily in this game, but when Revokers were getting 40 kills in one for all games, i gave up playing for 6 months. The game became down right stupid. 

It's not about surviving it's about profit

31 янв. 2026, 14:0831.01.26
30.01.24
311

1. Game needs to rotate the best weapons in game so that it can survive financially. 

2. It was Arc torrent ,  then Ember Gun , now Revokers. 

But how to avoid having Eclipse + Revokers dominating the games, without nerfing them. I have a suggestion.

Make the game like a paper ,sicisors , stone style game, may be we can have one or two weapons that can stop revokers, but revokers only. Say Autocannon is weak aginst everything but Revokers. something in that direction. 

3. you mentioned Burrow beams are taking out revokers right, but we are not seeing Burrow beams players demointing MVP and most of all , the one for all games, so Burrow beam is not over powered AT ALL. It is that simple. And most of all,Burrow beam is an expensive weapons that carry 4 implants, which meams it take you around 60USD more to max out that weapons , so it should rightfully be stronger than Revokers. but sadly, it does not seems to be the case. 

4. I invested heavily in this game, but when Revokers were getting 40 kills in one for all games, i gave up playing for 6 months. The game became down right stupid. 

"but we are not seeing Burrow beams players demointing MVP "

There are potentially some simple reasons for that, and what we are seeing today might easily be different from what we see tomorrow. My point is that when doing rebalancing, subjective preferences should be mostly set aside in favor of some simple objective guidelines. With that reasoning whether or not burrow beam is slow to become meta is immaterial. What I'm suggesting should matter more, in such cases, is which should we expect is the better weapon at close quarters - the close quarters weapon or the beam weapon? Hope that makes sense.

And I'll reiterate that I am not advocating that revokers are fine as they are. I have no strong opinion currently on that.

31 янв. 2026, 14:5731.01.26
16.08.15
87

But friends have always done it, and always will. Now you'll spend a few thousand euros on the digger beam, in a year you'll have to spend it on another weapon, because the beam will be weakened, as is now standard practice in Plarium... nothing here lasts more than a year. Only that to be competitive you have to spend at least 2-3 thousand euros... nothing here is regular, the weapon stats are just written numbers, which never correspond to the reality of the game. But only the rule applies, NEW WEAPON, YOU'RE NUMBER ONE... IN SHORT WORDS, SPEND, SPEND, SPEND, INFINITELY.