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Mech and weapon grade update

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27 март 2023, 13:2727.03.23
05.09.22
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Mech and weapon grade update

Ok, so all my legendaries are buff, but what about my other  mech that I spent thousands of hard earn acoins on? I know other people are complaining about this too. I'm not here to say that the grade update shouldn't have happened, it does make sense that legendaries are actually strong, but I think players need to get some sort huge compensation gift to make up for all the time and money lost on mechs and weapons that are weak now.

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CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
27 март 2023, 14:0227.03.23
10.02.23
2079

Hi! The idea of the Update is to make the Mechs more up to their Grades. In this way, the Legendary Mechs feel really Legendary right now compared to ones of other Grades. Nevertheless, those weaker Mechs are still relevant within their Grades and didn't lose their advantages among other non-Legendary Mechs

27 март 2023, 18:5927.03.23
27 март 2023, 19:11(отредактировано)
20.06.22
384
CrystalDrew

Hi! The idea of the Update is to make the Mechs more up to their Grades. In this way, the Legendary Mechs feel really Legendary right now compared to ones of other Grades. Nevertheless, those weaker Mechs are still relevant within their Grades and didn't lose their advantages among other non-Legendary Mechs

Thanks for missing the point again. I'm going to assume you did so on purpose because we already told you the problem with that statement. "The mechs perform well within their own grade." That's because there's so few mechs within any given grade. And that just means they're not good and can't even be used against the META like you used to be able to before. The mechs are weaker. This means now players have to spend more money and or resources to get and upgrade entirely new mechs to meet the META. Or they have to take all the higher grade mechs out of their hangar and wait they still have to upgrade other weaker mechs to make them on par with the weaker mechs they already upgrade. People don't who spent money and/or resources on them should be compensated. It's a stupic cash grab and if you continue to refuse compensation, you're just screwing players and telling us you don't care.

28 март 2023, 00:0628.03.23
04.08.22
28
CrystalDrew

Hi! The idea of the Update is to make the Mechs more up to their Grades. In this way, the Legendary Mechs feel really Legendary right now compared to ones of other Grades. Nevertheless, those weaker Mechs are still relevant within their Grades and didn't lose their advantages among other non-Legendary Mechs

So the common mechs are relevant only when they are up against common mechs etc...That makes a lot of sense since this happens all the time in real matches Lol.

28 март 2023, 01:5628.03.23
05.09.22
204
CrystalDrew

Hi! The idea of the Update is to make the Mechs more up to their Grades. In this way, the Legendary Mechs feel really Legendary right now compared to ones of other Grades. Nevertheless, those weaker Mechs are still relevant within their Grades and didn't lose their advantages among other non-Legendary Mechs

So you just buff all the legendary mechs and leave all the other mech we spent money on helpless. Mech that aren't epic or legendary feel like a waste against higher grades. And besides, it doesn't take much work to give people a gift.

28 март 2023, 01:5828.03.23
05.09.22
204
BAAB

Thanks for missing the point again. I'm going to assume you did so on purpose because we already told you the problem with that statement. "The mechs perform well within their own grade." That's because there's so few mechs within any given grade. And that just means they're not good and can't even be used against the META like you used to be able to before. The mechs are weaker. This means now players have to spend more money and or resources to get and upgrade entirely new mechs to meet the META. Or they have to take all the higher grade mechs out of their hangar and wait they still have to upgrade other weaker mechs to make them on par with the weaker mechs they already upgrade. People don't who spent money and/or resources on them should be compensated. It's a stupic cash grab and if you continue to refuse compensation, you're just screwing players and telling us you don't care.

Basically, you have to use legendary or you lose. Whats the point of the other mechs once you get to division 1?

28 март 2023, 02:0128.03.23
28 март 2023, 02:01(отредактировано)
05.09.22
204

I'm not saying they have to make the commons more powerful or something, im just saying give people something to make them happy after being devastated by the update. And I don't mean like 100 acoins or something, that's a pathetic gift


28 март 2023, 06:5628.03.23
28 март 2023, 06:57(отредактировано)
20.06.22
384
KabiKabi

So you just buff all the legendary mechs and leave all the other mech we spent money on helpless. Mech that aren't epic or legendary feel like a waste against higher grades. And besides, it doesn't take much work to give people a gift.

It's not even like a lot of epic and legendary mechs and weapons weren't already quite epic or legendary. THEY WERE! Most of them at least. It just feels like an excuse to further increase the power gap between different spending categories.

CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
28 март 2023, 07:2228.03.23
28 март 2023, 07:25(отредактировано)
10.02.23
2079
BAAB

Thanks for missing the point again. I'm going to assume you did so on purpose because we already told you the problem with that statement. "The mechs perform well within their own grade." That's because there's so few mechs within any given grade. And that just means they're not good and can't even be used against the META like you used to be able to before. The mechs are weaker. This means now players have to spend more money and or resources to get and upgrade entirely new mechs to meet the META. Or they have to take all the higher grade mechs out of their hangar and wait they still have to upgrade other weaker mechs to make them on par with the weaker mechs they already upgrade. People don't who spent money and/or resources on them should be compensated. It's a stupic cash grab and if you continue to refuse compensation, you're just screwing players and telling us you don't care.

As you probably have seen, I have already mentioned on the forum that besides the Grades Update there was a new Matchmaking system implemented. It will work according to your Hangar, so you don't need to have any Mechs of any special Grades to win as you will meet players with more or less the same power (+-1 Grade). KabiKabi, DewayneD4 if you have several Uncommons, Epics, and Legendaries in your Hangar, be ready to meet someone with approximately the same set of Mechs. It's up to the player to choose which Mechs they want to see in their Hangars.

Nevertheless, the Matchmaking system needs more time to calibrate better. The more players play, the more it performs better.

28 март 2023, 10:2128.03.23
28 март 2023, 10:31(отредактировано)
20.06.22
384
CrystalDrew

As you probably have seen, I have already mentioned on the forum that besides the Grades Update there was a new Matchmaking system implemented. It will work according to your Hangar, so you don't need to have any Mechs of any special Grades to win as you will meet players with more or less the same power (+-1 Grade). KabiKabi, DewayneD4 if you have several Uncommons, Epics, and Legendaries in your Hangar, be ready to meet someone with approximately the same set of Mechs. It's up to the player to choose which Mechs they want to see in their Hangars.

Nevertheless, the Matchmaking system needs more time to calibrate better. The more players play, the more it performs better.

You missed the part wheere I told you that this update has forced players to spend money or resources to have a complete hangar within a given grade. It's not at all ideal to mix in grades more than 1 lower than your strongest because then your strongest mechs are greater losses in a match. And if you lose your strongest mechs while your opponent still has theirs in this scenario you're at a major disadvantage. Hence why I said this update forces players to invest additional money and/or resource. What do you have to say to that?

How about the part where I said most mechs already fit well into their designated grades and it really seems like you're making excuses. What do you have to say to that?

CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
28 март 2023, 10:3228.03.23
10.02.23
2079
BAAB

You missed the part wheere I told you that this update has forced players to spend money or resources to have a complete hangar within a given grade. It's not at all ideal to mix in grades more than 1 lower than your strongest because then your strongest mechs are greater losses in a match. And if you lose your strongest mechs while your opponent still has theirs in this scenario you're at a major disadvantage. Hence why I said this update forces players to invest additional money and/or resource. What do you have to say to that?

How about the part where I said most mechs already fit well into their designated grades and it really seems like you're making excuses. What do you have to say to that?

It's always up to a player if they want to purchase any premium stuff or not. As I've mentioned above, a Hangar doesn't have to be complete within any Grade and it can be in any state as the Matchmaking system searches opponents according to the Hangar power, not the Grades. If a player wants to have a diverse Hangar, they are welcome.

Besides, the Implant Removal Discount was launched to help players reorganize their Hangars without extra spending.

28 март 2023, 11:2028.03.23
28 март 2023, 11:25(отредактировано)
20.06.22
384
CrystalDrew

It's always up to a player if they want to purchase any premium stuff or not. As I've mentioned above, a Hangar doesn't have to be complete within any Grade and it can be in any state as the Matchmaking system searches opponents according to the Hangar power, not the Grades. If a player wants to have a diverse Hangar, they are welcome.

Besides, the Implant Removal Discount was launched to help players reorganize their Hangars without extra spending.

No you missed the point again. And once again I feel it's on purpose. I just told you it isn't ideal to have a diversity of grades in your hangar and CC explained why it is. It's spend additional resources and/or money or play sub-optimally.

And this is why when you joined the team I told you when I say there's a problem that I hope you recognize ther's a problem. Because I don't want to sit here arguing with you people who constantly just deny the existence of problems instead of trying to understand how we feel.

And you still glossed over what I said about legendary mechs already feeling legendary and that I feel like you're making excuses, like you know you're making excuses and don't even care.

CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
28 март 2023, 11:3228.03.23
10.02.23
2079
BAAB

No you missed the point again. And once again I feel it's on purpose. I just told you it isn't ideal to have a diversity of grades in your hangar and CC explained why it is. It's spend additional resources and/or money or play sub-optimally.

And this is why when you joined the team I told you when I say there's a problem that I hope you recognize ther's a problem. Because I don't want to sit here arguing with you people who constantly just deny the existence of problems instead of trying to understand how we feel.

And you still glossed over what I said about legendary mechs already feeling legendary and that I feel like you're making excuses, like you know you're making excuses and don't even care.

We see the feedback and understand the reason for the concerns of the players. However, implementing new features always brings difficulties, so the state of this transition is not final yet. 

You say that the gap between Grades right now is much bigger, so that was the idea of the Update. The Legendary Grade must be more powerful and complicated to get as it's Legendary, that's the sense.

28 март 2023, 11:5828.03.23
28 март 2023, 12:08(отредактировано)
20.06.22
384
CrystalDrew

We see the feedback and understand the reason for the concerns of the players. However, implementing new features always brings difficulties, so the state of this transition is not final yet. 

You say that the gap between Grades right now is much bigger, so that was the idea of the Update. The Legendary Grade must be more powerful and complicated to get as it's Legendary, that's the sense.

And I told you most legendary items were already especially powerful. But with relative balance, fun, lower grade mechs could be used by skilled players to reasonable effectiveness. You just made it so fun, lower grade mechs are so totally outcompeted it makes it 100% unreasonable to use with higher grades. You've further removed skill from the equation. The state of this transition should be nonexistent. It shouldn't have happened. The update is stupid. Changes should be reversed, or further changes should be made to bring back relative balance. And if you won't do either of those, the least you can do is freaking compensate people.

28 март 2023, 12:4728.03.23
08.07.22
266

@CrystalDrew, this game used to be a ton of fun. You put a couple weapons on a mech, test ot out against other people your power level, and see if it works or not. Part of the reason I loved this game was its simplicity of te controls and the mechs. Pilots have ruined the simplicity and the new update has ruined the amount of mechas you can use. I know you can't reverse the update, and I know you don't have a big voice to the board of mech arena, but, I just want you to tell them, don't fix what's broken. I'm not saying yo not add updates and new mechs, I'm just saying fix things the community wants you to. This game has become too complicated. I would stop playing if I didn't spend 150 dollars on this game before you ruined it with first the pilots, then the mech and weapon "balancing" update. This game could have gone big, instead you just want money. Fix the matchmaking by pairing people with other people with the same highest power mech in their hanger. I'm disappointed in this game and will not be spending anything else. Tell that to the devs and maybe they'll stop being blinded by money. I understand your job is hard @CrystalDrew dealing with all of these people, but you should play the game more to understand how bad this update is. Ask the people in charge to give you fully maxed out hanger and try your favorite mech, Paragon. Good luck trying to live 10 seconds.

CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
28 март 2023, 13:3428.03.23
10.02.23
2079
N8 _

@CrystalDrew, this game used to be a ton of fun. You put a couple weapons on a mech, test ot out against other people your power level, and see if it works or not. Part of the reason I loved this game was its simplicity of te controls and the mechs. Pilots have ruined the simplicity and the new update has ruined the amount of mechas you can use. I know you can't reverse the update, and I know you don't have a big voice to the board of mech arena, but, I just want you to tell them, don't fix what's broken. I'm not saying yo not add updates and new mechs, I'm just saying fix things the community wants you to. This game has become too complicated. I would stop playing if I didn't spend 150 dollars on this game before you ruined it with first the pilots, then the mech and weapon "balancing" update. This game could have gone big, instead you just want money. Fix the matchmaking by pairing people with other people with the same highest power mech in their hanger. I'm disappointed in this game and will not be spending anything else. Tell that to the devs and maybe they'll stop being blinded by money. I understand your job is hard @CrystalDrew dealing with all of these people, but you should play the game more to understand how bad this update is. Ask the people in charge to give you fully maxed out hanger and try your favorite mech, Paragon. Good luck trying to live 10 seconds.

Hi! Thank you for your feedback, we will consider your and BAAB's thoughts and share them with our team. Talking about me, I constantly play and personally for me, the game process didn't change a lot.




 

28 март 2023, 14:5228.03.23
05.09.22
204
CrystalDrew

Hi! Thank you for your feedback, we will consider your and BAAB's thoughts and share them with our team. Talking about me, I constantly play and personally for me, the game process didn't change a lot.




 

Thank you. Your information was very helpful!

28 март 2023, 16:5528.03.23
28 март 2023, 17:08(отредактировано)
20.06.22
384
CrystalDrew

Hi! Thank you for your feedback, we will consider your and BAAB's thoughts and share them with our team. Talking about me, I constantly play and personally for me, the game process didn't change a lot.




 

Good to know. I hope the team does more than consider my thoughts. I hope they take my thoughts to heart. By the way, were to planning to consider my thoughts when you came loaded with excuses?

28 март 2023, 20:3728.03.23
04.08.22
218

As a mid game player I like the new update. Bit annoying I paid couple dollars for stalker who is pointless now but other games introduce far more radical changes where the entire roster is garbage. Panther, guardian, killshot are all still viable at the moment and have been around since day 1? Or certainly early I'm not an original to know if that's true. 

29 март 2023, 03:0029.03.23
29 март 2023, 14:50(отредактировано)
04.08.22
28

This update didn't change much for the players with all legendary stuff. It's the mixed hangars (95%) that suffered.

29 март 2023, 05:4429.03.23
29 март 2023, 05:46(отредактировано)
20.06.22
384
Lark

As a mid game player I like the new update. Bit annoying I paid couple dollars for stalker who is pointless now but other games introduce far more radical changes where the entire roster is garbage. Panther, guardian, killshot are all still viable at the moment and have been around since day 1? Or certainly early I'm not an original to know if that's true. 

Well killshot and Panther they've been around since launch at the very least. Killshot and Panther are still viable but that's because they got a grade change. I don't know how good guardian still is, but it had already been falling off before the update. Still though the system crash ability has proven invaluable again and again. Especially in energy capacity. And given stalker received a lesser buff than the other rare mechs so it makes sense guardian is better than it now. But I don't like the change still. Why should the best stuff totally outclass the worst? I don't think they should.