So what on earth does this mean?

Well first level of dificulty is the defintions

A whale quest is brand new gun, ability or mech just made for payers or whales. Yes, both. DON'T forget both fit there, but not really, or not all payers all the time.

A payer quest is for people who payed money on a gun, but would just love to have it pay back. obviously, the whales are included. Do yourself a favor, and datamine the most popular things the most people have, and cycles to the rarer stuff according to a ratio of everyone has versus not. I mean come on, you will make more money both twisting arms and with honey.

A Freebe quest is a entry gun anyone can get or has

A three system thing can uterally makes things worse, because you are paying whales and payers more. 

regular people should either get two, or the credits equal. This obviously includes the whales and payers, but the freebie players will still happy, even though payers get more. Oh, some will complain, just let the freebies ahve just enough to make grinding worth it.

THE PSYCHOLOGY AND GAME THEORY

What are issues with the rpwrong parameters, and why do all this?

Well, paying waphales too much means payers and could be payers get anoyed.

not taking care of the whales is not good either, 

but coddling  them will make them leave too. 

God mode is not fun, no matter people think their personality is, they get tired and move on to more rewarding things regardless whatever they think the will like. The brain needs a challenge, and you can only personality things and like things so much until you are basically rubbing up against physics, biology, and stuff like that.

The payers cant keep up, so let them have their bonus. Many whales probably have a limit unil they just stop, not all, but why risk it.

The second one takes care of the whales and the payers while annoying potential payers for the first one. Also, the lack of third option annoys pretty much everyone. Whales want more, payers want some recooperation and bang for their buck, and free to play, or deciders want to know they aren't rewarding abuse, or creating themselves missery in the future.

I guess from your guys perspective, you don't want to have too much of third option as the whales and payers might get anoyed, but the payers also need a bit too, and the gun they bought only comes arounds so much, and whales probably want more for what they payed.

so why two frebies or same credits? Well. The above is why. You want balance.

Four quests option

let's run throught the four types with each catogry of players again, but this time with four.

THE WHALES

If the second catagory exists, they probably don't care (the whales) too much if there is a free one for the normal players.

Now what they would be worried about is having and also depriving others.

 The idea is an advantage.

Yes, they dont want to have exactly the same stuff as in the definition of spite, but they aren't being spitefull just because of language shinanigans, they want an advantage, but unlike the word game noobs, it's basically the same thing, except I'm not talking about intent, so people don't have to feel disrespected. 

You an advantage, well that is you have, and others have not.

If you are anoyed because you don't have your edge, yeah, you having while others also not having at the same time is literally bothering you. And don't start by countering with examples of when you don't need this to have an edge, because in this case, and this game, the edge is done with that so no staw man garbage or comparison mitchmatching and false equating. I literally am allready on that crap allready, so it already doesn't work.

 They want to pay, but they want an edge. First, of all, this is a pay to win game, so they have their edge and dont acoins to get it. Second of all, the second catagory helps them and since they are whales, the benifit the most from the second catagory, and they benefit from the whale milking and food reward as well. This of course needs to be blanced with others and they need to be satisfied, desregarding certain gripes.

THE PAYERS (BUT NOT WHALES)(and pottentially pay more people)

The aecond catagory is the thing that cools the burn from the money spending, but its not enough and anoying. Stuff will only come around, so having freebies is great. The whales get burnt the most, they get more steam burn salve, and they are in the catagory of paying and getting burned by lack of money so they can understand what the more people must feel like and so they are less likely than the normal people to get anoyed at the whales and the players if they have a keep up subsidy. Also, having freebie stuff, that helps, but both is their life line. They will be so happy.

again, they already have an edge by having the itmes.

items and weapons constantly provide, acoins get spent and they are gone. 

More on this later

FREE TO PLAY

The catagory of people is the free to players and potential payers.

These are the guys that are kept with good game design and not treating like crap and cant have their rams twisted but are milked with honey and rewards and good treatment. They are gold mine, but the one you say boo, and drop their cash. You have to earn it.

And these people who do have monetary value in not just making the whales happy and providing income, but who can part with their cash too need the free to play third option.

of course trying to use the garbage version of this and it didn't work excuse doesn't fly. Oh we tried but people complained. THEY CONPLAINED ABOUT THE MADE IN CHINA QUALITY. That doesnt mean they don't want a better version, in fact, that is probably what they are asking more than complaining, and more so than not any of it at all, like what will eventually happen, like call if duty and being dumb with too many copies and pastes and they thinking that people complaining with their money is the only feedback that counts... well they can't just make better games and get payed for it (people got a divorse, greeved and moved on)

So yeah, obviously, the whales getting so much free money they might just as well leave the game and never come back and leave the whales with unsatisfactory bots and then they leave and come back to chase smashing noobs with no power and leave when that doesnt happen. I've explained to people why the bots are a godsend, but you need both.I don't think just buts is good, and just players isn't good either, you need to be able to win because someone like me exploited the powerful bots and you won because now the whales have a challenge and their capasity for being able to have any more fun in this game has increased. You can loose is vital for power trips. Trust me. Im sure you can think of examples to the contrary, this is not that, it's the other catagory that needs it.

 I imagine that people enjoy me casuing them to win against nore powerfull players in cpc, as I like it when the team takes a while to blow up, it makes it easier to win. And this gives the whales and the freebies what they need. All because bots. And no players is no fun. I want to beat players. No bots is no fun. No players, no fun and no point.

HERE

let the poor play players get their acoins, because eventually they will feel guilty for not paying a dollar for good game design,. Trust me, they will make it their new years resoltpution or christmas or borthday gift. 

So for them, having catagory three makes the other catagories not matter so much, so what, they didnt have to pay, and oh, the game might just be worth their money now.

WITH THE ITEMS AND ACOINS

There are two games here, earn and spend, and spend and earn, but that does not explain anything, its easy come easy go and a contsant farm and loose job, versus spet the money in the fishing pole, not the hot meal that always pays a bit, but not in the acoins, or actually yes the first game too, if of corse you do something like what im sugesting.

SO WHAT IS THIS NUMBER GAME, AND ARE THERE OTHER WAYS TO BALANCE THINGS?

Of course.

So the three and four is basically a ratio. The whole point is type.

You can have five quests, but if they are all catagory one, its basically one of the number im talking about and you might get one real world protest if they are catagory 1 and 2, or four whale and spender payeouts.

The is about the three types and with the four means a ration of having the third type be balanced out.

As stated, the amount of freebie can be high. 

Since the pay to win aspect involves winning games, the a coin situation doesnt matter too much. You can upgrade and buy stuff, but surge will destroy you, and zypher will shut you down. In fact, letting power buyers have challenge is good. Clearing house without truly having skill gets old. It's fun to shut down a dps sponge or something that might make you go boom. Its also more fun to have chance. You might just make it out in time to shoot.

Thats why the new aim bots are so dangerous, they let you feel like you are good. The whales will like it

Or, you know, make a quality game people WANT to spend in because it's fun and enjoyable for all, rather than continuing with the over the top p2w mechanics only an idiot would spend in because they can't win otherwise.

Unfortunately, Plarium knows the world is full of idiots.

So what your solution is stop draining the f2p and start giving the p2p and whales more instead? Wow, I feel like I proposed this a long time ago. Seems like a fair and simple solution to keep your whole community happy. Why doesn't plarium do it? Oh right because they're fucking greedy.

No. 

Absolutely not. 

I explained why that is bad. They need f2p to be some challenge to themselves because having easy wins only gets you so far until you leave, because the brain needs a challenge and danger ,and it cant really stand god mode too long Regardless of your personality.

give f2p some quests for acoins, and make it equal to the two other ones, combined. Eventually, you will get the payer guns for free anyway.

its all about balance. Give free to play more.

the whales dont get much in acoins back from the cost of getting them or the gun.

they get their payout in buying the weapon, so giving them more quests doesnt change too much, in fact, now that i think anout it, playrium would not want to give them too much more, and if they can use the free quest, then the quest for paid can go from 300 to 100 while the two frees are 300 or one free is 600.

Honestly, giving a bit back and them grinding for normal...I was thinking that they have to choose between grinding all day and getting all the coins, or just sticking with half the quests... isnt so bad as you realize the edge will come off as hundreds, or killions of f2p get a coins that they can buy stuff with and upgrade their stuff and gain access, while their edge is buying stuf and upgrading it. But its the gap being closed thats huge.

if normal players have better stuff, they have it harder. If the whole team of f2p have better stuff, then they have to earn it.

bit having the quest for them being less makes them them use garbage gun for a coins, and i think is best, and playrium would that because the whales being twisted to buy acoins and having a small, u sastifying amount is great For the sales.

you want to make free to play happy, as doing the opposite of twisting arms is how you take cash, and the whales have to have their anoyance exploited.

so i think the best for everyone is actually low whale and payer quests, and high f2p quests. Besides, the whales win matches and feel powerfull, let them feel powerfull, not be, and buy power. But i allready said that the free to play quests should be valuable.

having it one, one, two, and two hundred being whale, payer, and free would be great, because it forces them to grind on the normal stuff. A good mech with trash guns for acoins is fun for everyone.

Or good gun, bad mech.

Okay so we both want them to stop twisting peoples arms.

Well, yeah, but I make an argument that makes them more money, and amodel that involves more money, even if it twists the whales arms, if it makes things better over all, well, I guess I can be argued that I kind of make a compromise. Don't know if it's correct.

Thats 1.

2 is whales having theirbeing coerced in the certains way I meantioned, well they having to earn their stuff and loose more money for a coins if they are lazy and they can earn it like us, but are just being lazy (it's bot too hard or ea levels of free to play) is another matter. I guess it doesnt matter if whales pay if free to play players can easily earn. If twisting their arm is being lazy, I don't know, it's a good punishment.

3 is the most important.

Everyone does not drop their money the same way. Stop twisting everyone's arm and rub the people's back who can grind a tiny bit.

I gues twisting lazy arms is fine, weekness being punished is funny and what they deserve. Freaking pay to winners. Just play with normal crap, can probably put it on a pay to win mech. If they are so lame they still want to spend money, well then I don't have a probelem.