It's pretty funny that you think only designers will understand what you wrote, when what you wrote is that you're so clueless that you've been using SK for a good while, yet failed to notice until now that his damage scales off attack, unlike Tayrel's. 

L9753 said:

It's pretty funny that you think only designers will understand what you wrote, when what you wrote is that you're so clueless that you've been using SK for a good while, yet failed to notice until now that his damage scales off attack, unlike Tayrel's. 

It would certainly be nice if SK's damage also scaled off defense - but that goes for all champions whose damage scales off attack, it's always easier to gear a champion if you can entirely ignore one stat and double down on another. It's not a 'wrong' design, it's just a choice not to give him that particular advantage. And since he's still considered among the best epics even with his damage scaled off attack, clearly that was the right choice. 

You played ? months ? 

atk %, hp %, def % ? 

champ type ? 

Clearly looks trumps what the abilitiy sets actually do!

Indent14 said:

Long ago when Stag Knight was released, players compared Stag Knight vs. Tayrel, who is better, stronger, etc.. I prefer Stag Knight over Tayrel but I never look at him carefully, till now, I just find out that Plarium design him wrongly. 

Note: may only designer could understand what I wrote. 

Normal design: [Tayrel] 

Type: [DEFEND]

Basic stats: hp >>, atk <<, def >>

A1: damage based on [DEF]

A2: damage based on [DEF]

A3: damage based on [DEF]

-------------------------

Abnormal design: [Stag Knight]

Type: [SUPPORT]

Basic stats: hp >>>, atk <<, def >>

A1: damage based on [ATK]

A2: damage based on [ATK]

His damage base on the worst stats, not the best stats. So wrong. 

It's plain to see that you have no clue about how champs have to be designed. It's called balance.

You can't have a champ with OP skills and then base its damage on its strongest stat as well. That is how you create a way to OP champ that breaks the game.

even with your way of putting it

Ty = hp >> atk << def >> and his skills based on def

SK = hp >>> atk << def >> and his skills based on atk.

If they based his skills on say HP, guess what....because he has such a high base HP.....not only would his skills cause a debuff, they would also be a nuker.....which he isnt meant to be a nuker, he is meant to be a support, meaning he is there is help the champs not deal the most damage.

Maybe learn the difference between Attack champs, Defense champs and Support champs before telling anyone that they designed the champs wrong.

This post is so stupid that I loged in just to say how stupid it(and op) is. 

Indent14 said:

the above guy used my <<>> to draw a picture ? why don't you make it like <><><><> , any of your text ruin the picture. 

I used your own logic against you and its plain to see that doing so confused you. So maybe, just maybe your the one with the lowest IQ in this thread.

I used your own logic against you and its plain to see that doing so confused you. So maybe, just maybe your the one with the lowest IQ in this thread.

Even lower than the guy in the chat channel that i use in game that actually has the balls to drive and play this game at the same time.

I can see the guy started talking about IQ. Right after saying "only designers will understand". Like, how big is your ego? U sound like a spoiled 12yo trying to sound "proffessional".

Also: notice that SK is Epic, not Legendary.

Everyone here tells you how wrong you are and still you refuse to admit they are right. This thread should just be closed. It provides nothing.

mromg82 said:

I can see the guy started talking about IQ. Right after saying "only designers will understand". Like, how big is your ego? U sound like a spoiled 12yo trying to sound "proffessional".

Also: notice that SK is Epic, not Legendary.

Everyone here tells you how wrong you are and still you refuse to admit they are right. This thread should just be closed. It provides nothing.

Well most of his post are things like that... Thinking he knows better even though solid proof and facts are laid before him, he'll just say "you're not worth talking to" or something to that effect.

Try make him talk about the pull mechanics, he'll be on a tangent about how plarium is cheating in the mechanics by controlling every single pull and chose what account get what champs. Quite funny actually.

Indent14 said:

Long ago when Stag Knight was released, players compared Stag Knight vs. Tayrel, who is better, stronger, etc.. I prefer Stag Knight over Tayrel but I never look at him carefully, till now, I just find out that Plarium design him wrongly. 

Note: may only designer could understand what I wrote. 

Normal design: [Tayrel] 

Type: [DEFEND]

Basic stats: hp >>, atk <<, def >>

A1: damage based on [DEF]

A2: damage based on [DEF]

A3: damage based on [DEF]

-------------------------

Abnormal design: [Stag Knight]

Type: [SUPPORT]

Basic stats: hp >>>, atk <<, def >>

A1: damage based on [ATK]

A2: damage based on [ATK]

His damage base on the worst stats, not the best stats. So wrong. 

You're absolutely right.

Tayrel is by far the best Epic in the game as he's not only the most versatile champion in the game (he can literally do any type of content) he's also a great nuker. 

Stag Knight who's damage scales off of ATK will never be able to compare to Tayrel despite having aoe atk down (only useful for speed runs in certain dungeons and niche comps). 

AirMaxxx said:

Indent14 said:

Long ago when Stag Knight was released, players compared Stag Knight vs. Tayrel, who is better, stronger, etc.. I prefer Stag Knight over Tayrel but I never look at him carefully, till now, I just find out that Plarium design him wrongly. 

Note: may only designer could understand what I wrote. 

Normal design: [Tayrel] 

Type: [DEFEND]

Basic stats: hp >>, atk <<, def >>

A1: damage based on [DEF]

A2: damage based on [DEF]

A3: damage based on [DEF]

-------------------------

Abnormal design: [Stag Knight]

Type: [SUPPORT]

Basic stats: hp >>>, atk <<, def >>

A1: damage based on [ATK]

A2: damage based on [ATK]

His damage base on the worst stats, not the best stats. So wrong. 

You're absolutely right.

Tayrel is by far the best Epic in the game as he's not only the most versatile champion in the game (he can literally do any type of content) he's also a great nuker. 

Stag Knight who's damage scales off of ATK will never be able to compare to Tayrel despite having aoe atk down (only useful for speed runs in certain dungeons and niche comps). 

Stag only useful in niche comps?

I admit to having Stag and not Tayrel, recognize that both are great however.  But I think you could argue for either being better than the other.  I think depending on your roster one may be a better a fit.  Tayrel has the better aura and is better for CB.  Neither is ideal for arena.  Both can be used in all dungeon 20s.  

Both top 10 epics IMO.  Though my top 10 is probably very different than most.