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Aug 21, 2026, 01:25Yesterday
01/12/26
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10x summoning The Tin Woodman

I've been playing for many years and I've never gotten a single champion when it was summoned 10x or 25x, why?

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Aug 21, 2026, 04:24Yesterday
12/16/21
2645

Because there are roughly 275 pullable non-void lego champs

Imagine it's like pulling a name out of hat: there are 275 names in the hat, and only one of them says "tin woodsman" on it.

When it's a 10x multiplier, it only means they add 9 more slips of paper to the hat with his name on it.

So with that, if you pull a lego, your chances are now 10 out of 284 instead of 1 out of 275


In other words, with a 10x multiplier on a lego, statistically you'd still need to pull near 30 legos on average before getting the boosted champ.

Aug 21, 2026, 11:19Yesterday
01/12/26
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It takes me months and months to collect 30 holy shards. And then I pull out a champion I already have and it's worthless, you'll tell me it's just luck now. I think the raid itself might have a little effect on our luck.
They're too stingy. 

Aug 21, 2026, 11:51Yesterday
12/16/21
2645

The thing is, unless you're a kraken dumping enough money into the game to buy a house, focus on managing your resources, going for the fusion champs, and just accept that the champs you pull from shards will be random; that some will suck, but some will be good.

Aug 21, 2026, 13:13Yesterday
01/12/26
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It just means we have to spend a lot of my money to get that legendary thing you're offering. That's the only thing that matters to the creators of the game.

Aug 21, 2026, 17:08Yesterday
01/31/20
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There are people who spend and people who don't.  Spending is choice.

Managing resources to do Fusions, Path Events & DoF Events is a viable way to collect all the Champs you will ever need to advance to end-game. 

Aug 21, 2026, 18:40Yesterday
Aug 21, 2026, 18:43(edited)
11/06/21
97

I'm too lazy to count, but as far as I remember, 10x means that if you draw a legendary, there's a ≈  1/20 chance you'll get a progressive champion.

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Hellhades opened 316 sacred shards during the 25x progressive chance on someone else's account a couple of years ago. He made a video about it. Anyway, out of 316 sacred shards, he hit the progressive champion twice.

Since then, the number of champions has increased—Plarium has introduced many new ones. So the chance has become even smaller.

Aug 21, 2026, 22:10Yesterday
Aug 21, 2026, 22:15(edited)
12/16/21
2645

Yep. It's closer to 1/30 now, but otherwise you're dead on.

If you figure it takes on average 20 sacreds to get a lego, then at 1/28 odds then the statistical average to get the progressive champ would take 560 sacred shards


I won't claim I'm F2P, but I'm *almost* f2p. I've been here for coming up on 5 years, and my total spending is a little under $300, roughly $5 bucks a month. I've bought a few forge passes, and several of the monthly gem packs, that's it. Never bought a shard pack.

I'm endgame. I can clear all the content (except for some hard FW im still working to 3-star) I do *almost* all of the fusions, and the ones I skip are because I don't think the champ is worth going for, not because I don't have the resources.


The point I'm trying to make is that you don't *need* to spend; Just manage resources and take the long view.