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May 30, 2026, 15:2305/30/26
05/29/26
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Do you honestly think this is what balance is

People invested years of their time and money—both real and in-game—into building their team. Then, after several years, the developers suddenly claimed they realized they had created an imbalance. They essentially screwed over everyone who had invested into it, instead of optimizing the updates, the Hydra, and its tournament. Meanwhile, they literally have a test server available at all times to spot their own flaws beforehand.

Do you know what I'm talking about? I'm talking about the champion team known as the "Infinity team." They claimed these champions were imbalanced, even though they didn't deal cosmic damage from the very first turn like Trunda or Coldheart do. The champions in this team depended heavily on each other, and they needed time to ramp up. Even after that team composition was killed off (along with the time of the people who built it), players found other ways to deal damage, but after a while, nerfs hit yet another set of champions (and once more, the administration simply spits on the time players have spent). 


...instead of optimizing their update—specifically the Hydra tournament—and making sure that a clan's victory doesn't depend on a single player whose damage surpasses all other clans combined. Instead, they should introduce a point system similar to the chest reward limits: 100k = 1 point, 300k = 2 points, 500k = 3 points, 700k = 4 points, 1 million = 5 points. On top of that, add points based on which specific Hydra difficulty the damage was dealt on: Hydra 1 = 1 point, Hydra 2 = 2 points, and so on. Plus, 1 extra point for each clan member if the specific Hydra they attacked was defeated. If they had introduced their update this way, the cosmic damage of certain players wouldn't affect the tournament results so heavily!

Changing the core mechanics of the Frenzy set is also a slap in the face to the players. This set wasn't new, and those who collected it had to spend months or even years of their time, as well as in-game currency, because the gear requires upgrading, when the upgrade rolls went into the wrong stats, the search process had to start all over again. Administration, you could have introduced these changes from the Frenzy set into a completely new set and added it, for example, to the Forge Battle Pass. That way, players could decide for themselves whether they are interested in this set and whether it's worth spending their time on it.

 

I don't think it's fair to talk about balancing mechanics that are several years old—mechanics into which players put their hearts and souls to make them work—especially when the game revolves around factors like microtransactions and RNG. You have a test server and a team that can balance everything new without touching the old. My in-game nickname is Alfb. I only started over yesterday because my old account, Alfb, where I wanted to realize my ideas (which were destroyed by the updates mentioned above), was deleted by me after playing on it for more than 3 years. I really want the game developers to see this post and return—not my old account—but the Infinity team and the Frenzy set to exactly how they were before the changes, the exact way other players spent so much effort to build them. 

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May 30, 2026, 16:3705/30/26
12/16/21
2516

Where is this copy pasted from? not finding it on a reddit search, but it clearly has quotes. From a discord?

May 30, 2026, 16:5505/30/26
05/29/26
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MooredRat

Where is this copy pasted from? not finding it on a reddit search, but it clearly has quotes. From a discord?

These are my own thoughts and my personal experience with the game. Since English is not my native language, I used an AI assistant to translate and format my thoughts correctly so the community and developers could understand my points clearly. The quotes just appeared during the formatting process, but everything written here is 100% my personal feedback. 

May 30, 2026, 16:5805/30/26
01/31/20
2558

Your points are totally valid. Plarium truly screwed the pooch with Hydra & Hydra Clash, Wixwell/Yannica, the Trunda "nerf/buff"....However, the changes you are referencing took place like 18 months ago. There is no going back now. 

May 30, 2026, 17:3205/30/26
05/29/26
9
WileyMan

Your points are totally valid. Plarium truly screwed the pooch with Hydra & Hydra Clash, Wixwell/Yannica, the Trunda "nerf/buff"....However, the changes you are referencing took place like 18 months ago. There is no going back now. 

Thanks for your input, WileyMan. I know it's been about 18 months, and unfortunately, Plarium rarely rolls back such massive patches. But as you mentioned, they keep repeating the exact same mistakes with Trunda, Wixwell/Yannica, and Hydra Clash. My goal isn't just to look back, but to remind them that spitting on players' long-term investments (time and money) leaves deep scars. If we stay silent just because time has passed, they will keep pushing broken updates and killing mechanics that people built with their hearts and souls. The approach to balancing needs to change for the future of the game. 

May 30, 2026, 17:3205/30/26
12/19/19
7257

Lol

Moore and Wiley actually read the entire post by OP? 

😆 🤣 😂 



May 30, 2026, 17:3605/30/26
May 30, 2026, 17:38(edited)
05/29/26
9

Thanks for paying attention to the post and noticing that 🙂

May 30, 2026, 19:2505/30/26
12/19/19
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Alfb

Thanks for paying attention to the post and noticing that 🙂

My apologies if I offended, I'm just a lazy fook so I don't read essays. Lucky for you, those 2 and shorty will read anything :) I'm just the resident ahole/troll.


May 30, 2026, 19:5305/30/26
May 30, 2026, 19:56(edited)
05/05/24
288

I fully expect the imminent demise of all Mercurial teams, but my niche use with evade chsmps has been a total blast.  The game morphs. 🤷‍♂️

i would love Plarium un-nerfing Corpulent Cadaver so he can once again deal 1 billion vs demon lord, but it won't happen.  Oh well.

May 30, 2026, 20:2105/30/26
05/29/26
9
Trips

My apologies if I offended, I'm just a lazy fook so I don't read essays. Lucky for you, those 2 and shorty will read anything :) I'm just the resident ahole/troll.


All good! I appreciate any activity keeping this thread alive. 


May 30, 2026, 20:3005/30/26
05/29/26
9
Gareth Serra

I fully expect the imminent demise of all Mercurial teams, but my niche use with evade chsmps has been a total blast.  The game morphs. 🤷‍♂️

i would love Plarium un-nerfing Corpulent Cadaver so he can once again deal 1 billion vs demon lord, but it won't happen.  Oh well.

Exactly! Corpulent Cadaver was the heart of that Infinity team, and killing him completely ruined all the gear and time people invested into that specific synergy. It's sad that players just have to accept 'the game morphs' when it usually just means destroying our hard work. That's exactly why I ended up deleting my 3-year account. However, I refuse to give up hope that Plarium will actually read this post and that it might somehow influence them. 

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May 30, 2026, 20:3205/30/26
06/24/19
4703
Trips

My apologies if I offended, I'm just a lazy fook so I don't read essays. Lucky for you, those 2 and shorty will read anything :) I'm just the resident ahole/troll.


I gotta read it all.  Even your nonsense.  😛

May 30, 2026, 20:4605/30/26
05/05/24
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Alfb

Exactly! Corpulent Cadaver was the heart of that Infinity team, and killing him completely ruined all the gear and time people invested into that specific synergy. It's sad that players just have to accept 'the game morphs' when it usually just means destroying our hard work. That's exactly why I ended up deleting my 3-year account. However, I refuse to give up hope that Plarium will actually read this post and that it might somehow influence them. 

It should be noted my Wix team with CCadaver still does 300+ million, and CC does more than 1/3 of that...still a beast.

May 30, 2026, 21:0505/30/26
05/29/26
9
Gareth Serra

It should be noted my Wix team with CCadaver still does 300+ million, and CC does more than 1/3 of that...still a beast.

That's still a solid number, and it proves CC is a great champ. But that’s exactly the point—before the nerf, that synergy could pull 1 billion+ damage. That massive damage was the only way for regular players or small spenders to actually compete in Hydra Clash against heavy spenders and krakens. By capping his potential, Plarium closed that window, making tournament victories heavily dependent on whale gear and the newest meta champs again. 

May 30, 2026, 22:4905/30/26
12/16/21
2516
Trips

My apologies if I offended, I'm just a lazy fook so I don't read essays. Lucky for you, those 2 and shorty will read anything :) I'm just the resident ahole/troll.


He's not wrong 😁

May 31, 2026, 22:5905/31/26
05/03/20
2228

He has valid points that we have discussed here before.  As long as we all have a chance to get the same champs and gear why does anything need to be nerfed?  I worked long and hard to build the Wix team and get big scores.  I ran with the big dogs.  Then Plarium pulled out the nerf.  It was not fair to me or any of us.  Why did we get punished because others did not make the effort to build the same team?

Aces are over powered.  Maybe their casinos can buff dueces to better than aces.  Why not?

Jun 14, 2026, 17:0106/14/26
08/25/21
1

I completely agree with you. Actions like these are exactly what reduce players' motivation to invest time and effort into the game. With every update, you almost expect another disappointing change. At some point, you find yourself playing mostly out of habit rather than enjoyment.
The introduction of new content also keeps increasing the amount of time players need to spend in the game. Eventually, you catch yourself thinking that you're investing too much time in a game that simply isn't worth it anymore.
I often look back with nostalgia to 2020, when I first started playing. The game felt exciting and rewarding back then. Honestly, the main reason I'm still here today is because of the old friends I've made in my clan. 🙂

And every time players manage to work around the limitations and come up with a new creative way to improve their teams, Plarium is right there saying, "We've got a new update for you!" 😂

So, Plarium's idea of "balance" looks pretty selfish. 😄 The more you pay (money,time), the more you get. Nothing personal — it's just business)))

Jun 14, 2026, 21:2506/14/26
12/16/21
2516

Yup. Profit for online games is based almost entirely on powercreep to keep the pay-to-win players constantly spending

Jun 15, 2026, 15:4006/15/26
12/19/19
7257
MooredRat

Yup. Profit for online games is based almost entirely on powercreep to keep the pay-to-win players constantly spending

I'd say it is more about getting new players that spend, which is why it is a necessary evil for us freeloaders that are just along for the ride.  Obviously keeping spenders spending is important too.  

Call me a bootlicker, but the creep with both champs and mercurial gear imo is great strategy on their part. And it really does level playing field for both new and f2p. FYI, we aren't competing at top end with whales regardless. 


Jun 20, 2026, 01:448 days
10/23/25
57
Alfb

Exactly! Corpulent Cadaver was the heart of that Infinity team, and killing him completely ruined all the gear and time people invested into that specific synergy. It's sad that players just have to accept 'the game morphs' when it usually just means destroying our hard work. That's exactly why I ended up deleting my 3-year account. However, I refuse to give up hope that Plarium will actually read this post and that it might somehow influence them. 

That is upsetting. People spent year admiring those high scores of others then once they get there plarium nerfs the setup. 

Many have spent thousands just to end up back at the beginning with all of plariums antics. From mercurial which ruined arena to nerfing teams because players scored to high while not giving a crap about live arena as matches are super unbalanced.

Seems plarium doesn't truly care about customer service/ only money. 

If they keep this up all the whales will leave leaving only f2p players. Plarium won't make a dime from RAID then. 

Imagine a person buying a Cavalier and being upset because another person that has a corvette is faster so GM makes all corvette owners replace their engines with 4cylinder Cavalier engines. Lol bad business.