Torch of Thralldom, AKA: seriously !?

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Torch of Thralldom, AKA: seriously !?

kwisatzzz

Feb 15, 2026, 14:272 days

09/27/20

Torch of Thralldom, AKA: seriously !?

Plarium could you please rework Torch of Thralldom?

I mean, if myth relics were much easier to get, I wouldn't complain much.

But you know how difficult it is to get a myth relic on a normal account?

I'd definitely prefer a wand to this damn torch. It's totally useless. The stats are horrible, it should at least have spd as main stat. The effect is so niche that basically makes this relic usable in FW only, and that would not be that bad, if moving relics from a champ to another was free, just like for gear!

Just watch kruysen relic tierlist on yt if you want the complete breakdown of this useless relic

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WileyMan

Feb 15, 2026, 21:562 days

01/31/20

2195

Seems Tailor-made for any Faction Unity Toon. Level it up a few nothces, and a Faction Unity Toon or any member of a Faction-specific team is getting over 10% stat boosts across the board.

That'd be an extra 40 speed to my Arbiter on my High Elves only Siege Team. Send that Relic my way, and I'd level it to at least L15 before Tuesday.

I'd trade you for my unused Mind of Marquat, which I can't justify putting on any PVP Toons in place of a Wand.

ShortOnSkillzModerator

Feb 15, 2026, 22:012 days

06/24/19

4182

Definitely super niche one, mostly contained to siege posts. I do believe relic rebalance is in the pipeline which is desperately needed IMO.

ShortOnSkillzModerator

Feb 15, 2026, 22:022 days

06/24/19

4182

WileyMan

Seems Tailor-made for any Faction Unity Toon. Level it up a few nothces, and a Faction Unity Toon or any member of a Faction-specific team is getting over 10% stat boosts across the board.

That'd be an extra 40 speed to my Arbiter on my High Elves only Siege Team. Send that Relic my way, and I'd level it to at least L15 before Tuesday.

I'd trade you for my unused Mind of Marquat, which I can't justify putting on any PVP Toons in place of a Wand.

Is that the Fatigue debuff one? Would be way way better if placed a stun instead of sleep.

kwisatzzz

Feb 16, 2026, 12:42Yesterday

09/27/20

WileyMan

Seems Tailor-made for any Faction Unity Toon. Level it up a few nothces, and a Faction Unity Toon or any member of a Faction-specific team is getting over 10% stat boosts across the board.

That'd be an extra 40 speed to my Arbiter on my High Elves only Siege Team. Send that Relic my way, and I'd level it to at least L15 before Tuesday.

I'd trade you for my unused Mind of Marquat, which I can't justify putting on any PVP Toons in place of a Wand.

The relic would be fine if it was epic or legendary. When I get a myth relic, I expect to get something that will be useful in 90% of raid's content, not a super extra niche thing that, due to its extremely niche nature, it's not even worth investing basalts in it. Raid must rework it Asap

WileyMan

Feb 16, 2026, 20:38Yesterday

01/31/20

2195

ShortOnSkillz

Is that the Fatigue debuff one? Would be way way better if placed a stun instead of sleep.

Yes.

WileyMan

Feb 16, 2026, 20:40Yesterday

01/31/20

2195

kwisatzzz

From your lips to the Dev's to-do list...if it worked that way, they'd be doing all kinds of stuff for me.

ShortOnSkillzModerator

Feb 16, 2026, 23:45Yesterday

06/24/19

4182

kwisatzzz

Sleep is just such a bad debuff too.

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