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Feb 10, 2026, 19:567 days
10/12/21
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Arena calculation disorder...

Someone needs to explain this to me and use very small words so that I can understand. How is it that I lost this match?

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If all there was left was my Mezomel and his 1 death Embrys; if I attacked first and killed him and THEN I died because of excess damage. Why didn't I get the win? He was dead first in order before I died. That doesn't make ANY sense what-so-ever. Shouldn't kill order matter? Or is there some sort of hidden factor that is used if both sides are dead. If there is, I should would like to know.

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Feb 10, 2026, 22:457 days
01/31/20
2195

Embrys probably did his Revive on Death thing after you died, meaning he was still alive and you weren't.  I have lost quite of few LA fights due to that.

Feb 10, 2026, 23:077 days
01/31/20
2195

Are you from Wisconsin?

Feb 11, 2026, 00:027 days
10/12/21
72

I am. However, there was no revive. It was his second death. Like I said, he already had 1 death.

Feb 11, 2026, 00:586 days
01/31/20
2195
hybrithe

I am. However, there was no revive. It was his second death. Like I said, he already had 1 death.

WI here as well.  

His Revive Passive has a cooldown.  Entirely possible to have it proc more than once. 

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Feb 11, 2026, 12:146 days
06/24/19
4182
WileyMan

Are you from Wisconsin?

Lol, missed the in game now and was wildly confused how you could make such an accurate guess randomly. 

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Feb 11, 2026, 12:166 days
06/24/19
4182
hybrithe

I am. However, there was no revive. It was his second death. Like I said, he already had 1 death.

Theres also something with the order whether youre the attacker or defender when Embrys dies as to whether you win or lose.  I hate it as well.  He died 1st so I should win.

Feb 12, 2026, 20:105 days
10/12/21
72
ShortOnSkillz

Lol, missed the in game now and was wildly confused how you could make such an accurate guess randomly. 

What? The FBI is tracking me? HELP! HELP! I'm being repressed....

Also, his 1st death was shortly before his second. I am aware that it does have a CD but he wasn't close to it.

But to Shortz: that's so dumb. Like you said, if he died first (without a rez available) then I should win. I really don't understand this game some times... =P

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Feb 14, 2026, 11:583 days
06/24/19
4182
hybrithe

What? The FBI is tracking me? HELP! HELP! I'm being repressed....

Also, his 1st death was shortly before his second. I am aware that it does have a CD but he wasn't close to it.

But to Shortz: that's so dumb. Like you said, if he died first (without a rez available) then I should win. I really don't understand this game some times... =P

Rat being a CIA op would explain alot actually.  But yeah having different order of ops based on attack versus defense can be annoying when things happen differently. 

Feb 14, 2026, 19:363 days
12/19/19
7080

I figure i get a defense win that I never see occasionally so I don't give a fu$%


ShortOnSkillzModerator
Feb 15, 2026, 22:062 days
06/24/19
4182
Trips

I figure i get a defense win that I never see occasionally so I don't give a fu$%


This man running a real defense?  Shameful. 

Feb 16, 2026, 10:33Yesterday
10/12/21
72
ShortOnSkillz

Rat being a CIA op would explain alot actually.  But yeah having different order of ops based on attack versus defense can be annoying when things happen differently. 

Rat is being AWFUL silent over there and not denying any of these allegations. Hmmmm.... >_>

Feb 16, 2026, 19:41Yesterday
12/19/19
7080
ShortOnSkillz

This man running a real defense?  Shameful. 

Only on weekends in 3v3. Never in classic 

It does seem like less solo defense in classic though.  Not sure why that would be though. 


Feb 16, 2026, 19:59Yesterday
12/16/21
2289
hybrithe

Rat is being AWFUL silent over there and not denying any of these allegations. Hmmmm.... >_>

If i told you I'd have to kill you?

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Feb 16, 2026, 23:46Yesterday
06/24/19
4182
Trips

Only on weekends in 3v3. Never in classic 

It does seem like less solo defense in classic though.  Not sure why that would be though. 


I noticed that as well.  Not that it means they are good teams, but still annoying. 

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Feb 16, 2026, 23:47Yesterday
06/24/19
4182
MooredRat

If i told you I'd have to kill you?

And you have his location narrowed down to one state already. 

Feb 17, 2026, 08:363 hours
01/31/20
2195
ShortOnSkillz

I noticed that as well.  Not that it means they are good teams, but still annoying. 

Well, I'd call his 3v3 teams pretty effing good.  I have never lost to @Trips in 3v3 (or Live for that matter), but this week when his 3v3 teams popped up, he cast an unresistable True Fear Debuff on me, and I was totally unable initiate a fight.

No idea how well they are geared, and with @Trips, you never know if masteries are even selected, but the Team Comps were strong enough that I just didn't want to bother.

For F2P players, you both have monstrous rosters.