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Apr 24, 2025, 15:3804/24/25
02/20/24
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help with unkillable speed tune


Hi all! I am trying to build my first unkillable team, and i have followed the guide on deadwood jedi for myth tower, but in UNM the unkillable breaks. 

all champs except alice are fully booked. 

I have brogni set to cast his block debuffs before demytha extends it, to cover the stun

i have demytha heal set 1st priority, and block damage 2nd (to block stun damage)

Here are my details, let me know what else is needed:

Roschard: speed 248, 2 speed and 1 feral set (feral set as perception in jedi calculator)

demytha: speed 174, 1 speed set

brogni: spped 184, 1 peice of feral, so no sets affecting speed

venomage 186 speed, does have lore of steel, but no sets affecting speed

Alice: speed 178, no speed sets.

Pictures of masteries below. I know that there are some that could affect turn meter, but my understanding is that they will not proc in clan boss (i.e., whirlwind increases speed, but will not proc in clan boss). If I am wrong on anything, please let me know!


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ShortOnSkillzModerator
Apr 24, 2025, 16:3404/24/25
06/24/19
3580

Should be everything needed there.  Add some screenshots of your AI settings too.  About to leave work but I can check when I get home. 

Apr 24, 2025, 16:4704/24/25
02/20/24
6

added above. I did a run and tracked it, then compared it back to the calculator, and it seems like my roshcard is slowly going too fast. He ends up going twice on turn 12, so by turn 15 the block damage falls off, and then it falls apart. 

Apr 24, 2025, 19:4604/24/25
12/16/21
2068

Brogni is 184, should be 186? Veno should be 179?


"The 186 will always go first after AOE2 to cleanse debuffs and before Demytha to cleanse the Stun. Doompriest can cleanse both and as such is an ideal fit to make this affinity friendly.
Similarly a 3 turn CD Debuff Blocker with 2 turn duration (such as Underpriest Brogni) can place the block debuff before Demytha extends between the Aoe’s and extend that ability to cover the stun as well. "

"NB: ALL affinity speeds are: 174, 186, 248, 179, 178
Else it breaks at nm/spirit

You need a 179 champ for it to work on UNM and NM on all affinities "

Apr 24, 2025, 20:0804/24/25
02/20/24
6

wow, not sure how i did that all wrong. thanks, will fix and try again

Apr 24, 2025, 21:0104/24/25
02/20/24
6

gah, made the changes, no luck. Roshcard going too fast i think, but i reduced his speed by 1, still no luck

Apr 24, 2025, 22:4004/24/25
06/25/20
7024

Don't forget to check the stats for area bonuses - do you have any special speed bonuses for CB? Also don't forget to factor in faction guardian bonuses. Any special accessories messing things up?

If all else fails, watch each turn and compare with the calc. You should be able to narrow down the specific turn things start failing, and that may help identify the problem.

Apr 24, 2025, 23:0104/24/25
12/16/21
2068
besthammernewb

wow, not sure how i did that all wrong. thanks, will fix and try again

the spd numebrs under the champ thumbnails dont quite match what it says in the description below. IDK which is right, but the text says one of the dps should be 179, whereas the pic says 177

Apr 24, 2025, 23:0304/24/25
12/16/21
2068

Tbh, if you can manage the speeds, I'd go for a mythhier team instead. Added bonus, heiress is a rare so you don't need to change anything when you get the "beat cb with a rare" daily quest

Apr 28, 2025, 21:3704/28/25
02/20/24
6

Ya, I wanted to try myth tower as i already had tower leveled up and all that. Not sure if i want to try for a myth heir team, as I have a team that is already able to 3 key UNM, I just want to get a 1 key so that i do not have to manage my keys as much, as well as be able to quick play the clan boss :(

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Apr 29, 2025, 00:3004/29/25
06/24/19
3580
besthammernewb

Ya, I wanted to try myth tower as i already had tower leveled up and all that. Not sure if i want to try for a myth heir team, as I have a team that is already able to 3 key UNM, I just want to get a 1 key so that i do not have to manage my keys as much, as well as be able to quick play the clan boss :(

Unfortunately Myth-Heir is gonna be your best chance at 1 key.

May 9, 2025, 20:5305/09/25
02/20/24
6

I think i figured out what my issue was. I did not realize that in the stats section, i needed to select demon lord battles. That threw in some extra speed, which is what was throwing it off

May 10, 2025, 01:1705/10/25
06/25/20
7024
kramaswamy.kr

Don't forget to check the stats for area bonuses - do you have any special speed bonuses for CB? Also don't forget to factor in faction guardian bonuses. Any special accessories messing things up?

If all else fails, watch each turn and compare with the calc. You should be able to narrow down the specific turn things start failing, and that may help identify the problem.

That was this :)

May 19, 2025, 15:1205/19/25
02/20/24
6

Oh, did not know the name of it. Thanks!