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Nov 7, 2024, 20:3211/07/24
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Question About 9 Piece Feral Bonus?

From the Feral Gearset Description:

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Questions:  

  • How is the damage bonus calculated?  Is the damage bonus based on cumulative debuffs placed like Nature's Wrath or possibly based on currently active debuffs or something else?
  • Is there a cap?  Like 20% or 30%?

Thanks!

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ShortOnSkillzModerator
Nov 8, 2024, 00:0011/08/24
06/24/19
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No cap.  Active debuffs.

Nov 8, 2024, 00:2111/08/24
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ShortOnSkillz

No cap.  Active debuffs.

So Gnishak should be wearing 9 piece feral for sure now lol

Nov 8, 2024, 03:3111/08/24
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ShortOnSkillz

No cap.  Active debuffs.

Thanks!  

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Nov 8, 2024, 10:2011/08/24
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Onikage55

So Gnishak should be wearing 9 piece feral for sure now lol

If you were using him in a PvE setting sure.  Riho best in class for Feral though.

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Nov 8, 2024, 10:2111/08/24
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WileyMan

Thanks!  

Youre welcome.

Nov 8, 2024, 20:5811/08/24
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ShortOnSkillz

If you were using him in a PvE setting sure.  Riho best in class for Feral though.

But wouldn't the Dmg Boost from Riho apply only to the target with the Debuffs?

I figured the damage boost was calculated individually? 

Or is it calcualted by total debuffs out and then damage is boosted agaisnt all enemies?

harleQuinnModerator
Nov 9, 2024, 05:1711/09/24
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I'm using it on Eostrid for Hydra and have seen good damage improvement in spite of the continued nerfs to champ damage.

harleQuinnModerator
Nov 9, 2024, 05:2111/09/24
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WileyMan

But wouldn't the Dmg Boost from Riho apply only to the target with the Debuffs?

I figured the damage boost was calculated individually? 

Or is it calcualted by total debuffs out and then damage is boosted agaisnt all enemies?

It's just this in the Info section: "...allies deal 5% more damage for each active debuff cast by wearer"

So each debuff out there from your feral champ, your allies deal 5% more damage.

Apr 23, 2026, 03:305 days
01/31/20
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Revisiting this as I finally geared my first toon in 9pcs Feral for the Demon Coalition Event (Venus).  IIUC:

Against Demon Lord, If vneus has Dec Def, Weaken, 2 poisons & HPB out, that is 5 total debuffs, so as long as those are all up, every toon witll have a damage increase of 25%.

Against Hydra, if she has Dec Def, Wkn, & HPB on all Heads plus a couple of poisons out there, that would be 14 total debuffs. That should give a Damage Increase of 70% to the whole team?

Do I have all of that correct?  I ran her on Hydra this week in the Feral gear (In place of Sicia) and did not really see much of a difference at all. 

Apr 23, 2026, 03:365 days
Apr 23, 2026, 17:18(edited)
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While I am on the topic of the Gearset Damage Bonuses, based on how Feral works, I assume Protection works the same way.  If you are running Duchess in 9pcs Protection, she starts out putting 3 buffs on on all allies and 2 on herself.  That would be 17 buffs on a Hydra Team for a damage increase of 85%.

Is that actually how Protection works or is it calculated individually, which would result in only a 15% damage boost per toon? 

I put Mikage in 9pcs Protection for the Demon Coalition Event. She puts 2 buffs on everyone with her A3 and single target shield buffs with her A1. On a Demon Lord Team, that would be 11-12 buffs out there almost all the time for a damage boost of 60%.  

Apr 23, 2026, 04:525 days
12/16/21
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Pretty sure it's individual

So if duchess is in 9pc protection, and everyone 3 buffs, each champ would get a +15% bonus, 5 for each buff on them placed byu duchess


Similarly, if venus in 9pc feral put up 5 debuffs on each hydra head, any champ attacking that head would get a 25% bonus, 5 for each debuff placed by somoen in 9pc feral. if one of the heads only had 3debuffs, the bonus would only be +15% against that one



At least, I'm *pretty sure* that's how it works

Apr 23, 2026, 06:265 days
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MooredRat

Pretty sure it's individual

So if duchess is in 9pc protection, and everyone 3 buffs, each champ would get a +15% bonus, 5 for each buff on them placed byu duchess


Similarly, if venus in 9pc feral put up 5 debuffs on each hydra head, any champ attacking that head would get a 25% bonus, 5 for each debuff placed by somoen in 9pc feral. if one of the heads only had 3debuffs, the bonus would only be +15% against that one



At least, I'm *pretty sure* that's how it works

That is what I thought originally, but that is not what Quinn said back in 2024.  

It has taken me this long to finally equip a full 9 pcs set of each and leave it on....

I absolutely hate regearing after I commit a ton of glyphs to a build.

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Apr 23, 2026, 12:025 days
06/24/19
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WileyMan

Revisiting this as I finally geared my first toon in 9pcs Feral for the Demon Coalition Event (Venus).  IIUC:

Against Demon Lord, If vneus has Dec Def, Weaken, 2 poisons & HPB out, that is 5 total debuffs, so as long as those are all up, every toon witll have a damage increase of 25%.

Against Hydra, if she has Dec Def, Wkn, & HPB on all Heads plus a couple of poisons out there, that would be 14 total debuffs. That should give a Damage Increase of 70% to the whole team?

Do I have all of that correct?  I ran her on Hydra this week in the Feral gear (In place of Sicia) and did not really see much of a difference at all. 

Its applied against each target, not overall. 

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Apr 23, 2026, 12:035 days
06/24/19
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MooredRat

Pretty sure it's individual

So if duchess is in 9pc protection, and everyone 3 buffs, each champ would get a +15% bonus, 5 for each buff on them placed byu duchess


Similarly, if venus in 9pc feral put up 5 debuffs on each hydra head, any champ attacking that head would get a 25% bonus, 5 for each debuff placed by somoen in 9pc feral. if one of the heads only had 3debuffs, the bonus would only be +15% against that one



At least, I'm *pretty sure* that's how it works

Yup.  Bonuses are individual.  Androc off the top of my head would be a rare example when all is applied to all but thats a passive. 

Apr 23, 2026, 17:194 days
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ShortOnSkillz

Its applied against each target, not overall. 

Okay. Thanks. That is what I figured must be happening based on what I saw for damage increases.

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Apr 24, 2026, 15:223 days
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WileyMan

Okay. Thanks. That is what I figured must be happening based on what I saw for damage increases.

No problemo. 

Apr 24, 2026, 21:433 days
12/19/19
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Thanks OP for this thread, 9pc feral narma ftw on tainted cb #5