
You must be playing a different game then me because Matchmaking for Tourney has been horrible. Playing up against maxed out mech teams when mine consists of mix between 4-5 stars with zero mods and pilots(3.4k hanger/23k total power). I went 1-7. Lost 7 of the 8 because my team(or myself in FFA) could not do anything to the opposing team.
Not a huge fan of FFA, so of course it popped up 4 times. Managed 2 wins in other modes. The losses were, no surprise, unbalanced blowouts. I know, "We're working on it!" /s
I'm a little concerned about the abundance of key and a-coin rewards. In the long run, will this delute the currency value and lead to inflated prices for bots and weapons?
IMHO it wasn't broken until they fixed it. New is not always "improved."
I just played and it is indeed so far a great experience, barring the occasional SP mismatches.
The per-game rewards and the 8-game limit also help hugely improve quality of life of casual players. We no longer have to grind endlessly just to earn reasonable rewards. Big shoutout to Plarium for that and I hope they don't nerf these aspects later :-).
I also noticed that even if you lose a game you can get some rewards (I lost in a 5v5 but scored highest in the losing team). Not sure if there's a limit to that (e.g. if you place 10th what happens).
Great job, Plarium! (but please do start to limit the huge SP disparities in some match-ups)
... not sure what to say .. my enemies were 5-6 stars mechs with nearly maxed out legendary implants, while I only have 6 stars paragon and lancer, even not in the hangar, and i have zero legendary mechs in my inventory, while my enemies had plenty. Would be nice to know what exactly matchmaking is taking into account, because this left me in shock.. I will put my strongest hangar for the next tournament, but even that is nowhere close to what I seen with my enemy.. whatever :D
EDIT: Ok I tried to play again.. I used my strongest possible hangar.. I won and took 1st place.. Despite enemies were much higher than me in equipment.. It's weird but ok... lets say I like it after 2 battles... First one I tried with 3000 hangar and was dominated like a baby.. the second one I used 4700 hangar, it's all I have... And it was good... There were monsters in both teams but somehow didnt get that many kills as me.. and I'm not sure if one team dominated the other... I didn't feel like dominating anyone myself.. I felt like our team was a bit stronger.. just when you see that enemy lost most control points quite quickly.. it tells you that one team is OP.. but looking at players the enemies were 5000-6000 hangars.. with all sort of geminis savants and legendary mechs.. and hmm... i can play against them.. my MVP was 4 stars and the other 2 were at maximum :D whatever
EDIT: Ok so 4/8 battles 2 MVPs 25 kills, not great but I'm more or less staying in my bracket I guess.. and more A-coins than I would have in normal tournament.. so thats a plus.. I was meeting crazy mechs but I hope they will be filtered out to go to where they belong over time.. mixed feelings but overall I think it's not negative.. I felt a bit helpless to appear on large open map with some close combat mechs and even snipers to be honest and no guided weapons, while others shoot geminis from 3 different directions.. but on medium to small maps it feels quite ok..
So for day 1... I give it a thumbs up.
My next match same hanger of 1.9k pitted against maxed out mechs again... was a 5v5... Well a 5vs 4 becuse I was completely useless to my team... Worst part is they had to endure 2 rounds of being shorted a useful team mate. So this isn't just effecting me, but others too when you think about it. It's like having a team member join the match and afking.
My next match same hanger of 1.9k pitted against maxed out mechs again... was a 5v5... Well a 5vs 4 becuse I was completely useless to my team... Worst part is they had to endure 2 rounds of being shorted a useful team mate. So this isn't just effecting me, but others too when you think about it. It's like having a team member join the match and afking.
What tournement bracket are u in?
You must be playing a different game then me because Matchmaking for Tourney has been horrible. Playing up against maxed out mech teams when mine consists of mix between 4-5 stars with zero mods and pilots(3.4k hanger/23k total power). I went 1-7. Lost 7 of the 8 because my team(or myself in FFA) could not do anything to the opposing team.
Hide, and then try to kill mechs already being killed. Since it is FFA, it is ok to die, but when you are about to die, hurry up and switch mech to not waste to much time.
Well Mr Band I figured out that in new Tournaments you should use your strongest hangar, it doesn't seem to care what power you put in it, it is looking only at your tournament ranking to provide you with enemies. So you only stabbing your team in the back by reducing your hangar power to hope for easy match. If you are losing then you don't belong to your league. It is normal. You will drop down to where your skill+inventory sits. So hopefully in a week time the people who don't belong to their leagues will be filtered out and rise or fall to their correct places.. I mean not you Mr Band, I mean I hope I will see less 200-300k mechs in my tournaments because they will get higher in ranks and out of my sight. I don't have such monstrous equipment to fight them.. I am only used to see such mechs in hangar battles.. but now it's like my tournament, with difference that I am not maxed out.
My personal experience for Day 2:
Well I don't get those type of big enemies, i'm in expert II bracket where I'm happily bounce 50% of wins/loses.. It became harder now than previous version of tournament, I admit, but I earnt about 200 A-Coins.. why would I care... Previously if I took any place then somebody would overtake me while I was sleeping.. so 200 A-Coins was more like a rare happy occation.. I'm running out of missions for my mechs so I really need new mechs and a-coins :) so this makes me happy.
I have inventory 14k and my maximum power I could assemble was 4700, I'm weaker than majority of enemies I meet in current Tournament but I'm happy where I am.. Initially they put me in Expert 1, it's clearly above my Inventory to handle such enemies.. I hope I belong to Expert 2..
Well Mr Band I figured out that in new Tournaments you should use your strongest hangar, it doesn't seem to care what power you put in it, it is looking only at your tournament ranking to provide you with enemies. So you only stabbing your team in the back by reducing your hangar power to hope for easy match. If you are losing then you don't belong to your league. It is normal. You will drop down to where your skill+inventory sits. So hopefully in a week time the people who don't belong to their leagues will be filtered out and rise or fall to their correct places.. I mean not you Mr Band, I mean I hope I will see less 200-300k mechs in my tournaments because they will get higher in ranks and out of my sight. I don't have such monstrous equipment to fight them.. I am only used to see such mechs in hangar battles.. but now it's like my tournament, with difference that I am not maxed out.
My personal experience for Day 2:
Well I don't get those type of big enemies, i'm in expert II bracket where I'm happily bounce 50% of wins/loses.. It became harder now than previous version of tournament, I admit, but I earnt about 200 A-Coins.. why would I care... Previously if I took any place then somebody would overtake me while I was sleeping.. so 200 A-Coins was more like a rare happy occation.. I'm running out of missions for my mechs so I really need new mechs and a-coins :) so this makes me happy.
I have inventory 14k and my maximum power I could assemble was 4700, I'm weaker than majority of enemies I meet in current Tournament but I'm happy where I am.. Initially they put me in Expert 1, it's clearly above my Inventory to handle such enemies.. I hope I belong to Expert 2..
There should be a min hanger power if that is the case.
What tournement bracket are u in?
If my 1st day was 1-7 and I am still complaing aboout the same issue the following day... then logically I must be in the top bracket right? I have not been wining to get any where in the bracket rankings. Creating a 1.9 hanger (5 mechs both weilding 2 weapons, not SP dropping) and the game is putting me up against opponents with up 5x+ my hanger power.
Creating a 1.9 hanger (5 mechs both weilding 2 weapons, not SP dropping)
Hello there, i just checked the hangar to which you said you arent SP dropping. However, you are.
The reworked tournament is based off TRP (Tournamnet Ranking Points) and not SP. So we can say SP Dropping is patched.
If you want, I can explain to you what SP dropping is.
Creating a 1.9 hanger (5 mechs both weilding 2 weapons, not SP dropping)
Hello there, i just checked the hangar to which you said you arent SP dropping. However, you are.
The reworked tournament is based off TRP (Tournamnet Ranking Points) and not SP. So we can say SP Dropping is patched.
If you want, I can explain to you what SP dropping is.
That was purposely created to see if it would change how the other mechs are that I would be encountering. It was the weakest of my selection I could choose from. SP dropping is an issue when a player attempts to lower his hanger to get an advantage is it not? Clearly if that hanger you are showing is not getting an advantage going against other players with maxed out hangers. All of them looaded loaded with 2 power weapons and such. If I was SP dropping... Wouldn't my posts in this thread be very different? I am suppose to use my best layout to have a chance competing in this mode? What about other players who's hanger like I posted(1.9k) would be their best? They are just screwed until they get 6 star mechs? Since you peaked at my stats/hangers you must also see that my best layout/hanger still isn't able to compete with the opposing teams. By your logic Players like me should just take getting spanked and this mode is for the whales. SP dropping wasn't patched with this mode it created a bigger issue... It increased the need for the P2W aspect of Mech Arena.
That was purposely created to see if it would change how the other mechs are that I would be encountering. It was the weakest of my selection I could choose from. SP dropping is an issue when a player attempts to lower his hanger to get an advantage is it not? Clearly if that hanger you are showing is not getting an advantage going against other players with maxed out hangers. All of them looaded loaded with 2 power weapons and such. If I was SP dropping... Wouldn't my posts in this thread be very different? I am suppose to use my best layout to have a chance competing in this mode? What about other players who's hanger like I posted(1.9k) would be their best? They are just screwed until they get 6 star mechs? Since you peaked at my stats/hangers you must also see that my best layout/hanger still isn't able to compete with the opposing teams. By your logic Players like me should just take getting spanked and this mode is for the whales. SP dropping wasn't patched with this mode it created a bigger issue... It increased the need for the P2W aspect of Mech Arena.
Dude...do u not understand how this game works? Players were put in brackets based on their inventory power. You play the people in your bracket NO MATTER WHAT YOUR CURRENT HANGER POWER IS. If you win u move up, if you lose u move down. SO SP PLAYS NO ROLE WHATSOEVER IN MATCHMAKING. If u play with your best hanger u will face the same comptition that you would face if you used your 1.9k hanger. Because u have such a high inventory power you will face very good comptition no matter your hanger. now if u lose a ton of games u will move to a lower bracket.
32k inventory power is a whale to me, so a whale crying about whales because sp dropping stopped working to receive easy 1200 a-coins HA HA HA...
But seriously.. how else are you expecting this to work? Imagine you just installed a game, you start a game with no equipment and you want to be winning in major league? And if not then it's not fair because everyone should have an equal chance? Are you from different dimension?
Buy better gear or learn to play better... or wait few years until you earn your legendaries. If you were abusing your hangar power in previous tournament to receive some easy wins then i perfectly understand your frustration and I feel sorry for your loss of a-coins, no i'm not..
day3. Im happy with tournaments again.. even visited higher bracket for 1 game :) there was less monsters today so i guess they getting to grandmasters where their inventory and skill belong
Still meeting some monsters, but in general its fair..
And I surely don't expect to win every game.. but on lucky occations even getting MVPs...
I looked you up Mr Band, Please read all below.. you indeed look genuine and not abuser to me, I apologise for my previous comments..
You look like a genuine fair player to me and I really don't understand why you are not happy...
Please let me explain, here are Your seasonal legues history:
You are 2nd division, which means you were not sp dropping as I am 2nd division as well and I only sp dropped first time in this season.
Thats me:
If you were sp dropping you would be 1st division... it's easy to see.. So I believe that you were accidentally put into wrong Tournament league, and frustration comes from loses and not gaining that many a-coins..
But, please look at this, this is your tournament history.. It tells me one thing, you never really received much if any a-coins for wins AT ALL...
And NOW you are for sure getting a-coins... so why are you not happy? It's trully a good change.. just play these battles... you will drop in the league, but you will eventually settle at the bracket where you getting 200 a-coins per day... and the enemies are of your strength.. Just please be a little bit patient, lets trust the developers just this once... I believe and hope that they made it right this time.. it's just not straighforward to grasp...
Look at me, I am the one who should be unhappy:
But I am happy... I had good tournament results in previous tournament, but I don't think it was fairer than this one where I am standing at much lower bracket..
But I am happy because this is seeming more fair to me..
Look your hangar, it's nearly 9000.. you have volti and surge, gatecrasher etc etc..
And look at my hangar:
I can't show it like yours I think.. but it's 4761 power... I'm happy they didn't put me in your bracket of Master because my hangar is just too weak for it, I would get murdered there..
In short.. I'm not sure what you expect.. but I think time will improve the situation dramatically.. when 65k inventories take grandmasters spots.. you will feel better and maybe even stay in your league.. and we are getting better rewards... I don't need to be frustrated that somebody took my a-coins while I was sleeping, because when I went to bed I was in top3 and when I wake up I'm out of anywhere for any a-coins.. how would you compete in the tournament where people lower hangars get unlimited tries.. Now it's fair in most senses... please read everything I said.. it makes sense.
Especially give the fact that you were not the biggest winner in previous tournament..
But I have an idea why you feel this way... People used to lower their hangars and instead of fighting with 9000 hangars you were fighting against 3000 hangar because possibly you also lowered your hangar to similar level.. or maybe the enemies were only having 1 big mech and not every big mech... In this sense it may feel a lot less pleasant to play.. when everyone is maxed out.. in a way I hate it too.. I hate geminis and savants firing from 3 directions when I'm with sniper gun and I don't even see the enemy and neither the bloody enemy sees me, but despite that I get killed immediately after leaving any cover.. I hate that type of game.. but it's fair tournament.. my hate is rather to the weapons... or mechs like Solis and Volti, who don't even need to see you to kill or affect you. It's like if they introduced an Atomic Bomb weapon as a super expensive Artillery.. it's not what I enjoy.. but that's offtopic.. I feel small in my league as well, I feel like now I'm killed within 1 second time while previously things didn't feel that bad.. because enemies got stronger.. but im happy as of day 3.