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18 трав. 2025, 12:5818.05.25
20.08.22
39

Frustration and Disappointment Over the Current Tournament Setup and Drop-Hanger Players


I am utterly baffled by the fairness of this tournament. Why is it that drop-hanger players within the same Grand Master class are able to achieve such high scores, even when we’re not competing in the same battles?

It’s so blatantly unfair, and it’s becoming nearly impossible to keep up with the large rapid point spreads gained by low-SP level players, who effortlessly wipe out entry-level bots. This imbalance makes the competition feel meaningless.

Honestly, what’s the point of playing when the system seems rigged to reward easy wins rather than genuine skill? Reaching this point to voice my concerns only adds to the discouragement and makes me less inclined to continue playing. 

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18 трав. 2025, 16:4918.05.25
25.12.23
41

You are NOT alone.....I bet almost all players who plays or played this game feels the same way as you do.  I've play many years and used to spent money on this but not much so anymore!

It is a fun game, you have to admit, thats why so much love and hate toward this game TBH.

BUT, the same SP dropping, unfair match making, nerfing of mech and weapons, ITS NEVER going to change!  Wake up and adjust to your approach to this game if you want to continue to play mech arena.  Plarium WILL NOT listen to its players, IT will continue to try to squeeze every penny out of its players because it is the nature of its business model.

You can always choose not to support it anymore, not end of the world, just saying

CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
19 трав. 2025, 11:2619.05.25
10.02.23
2761

Our team is constantly working on improvements to the matchmaking system. Surely, sometimes, it can perform somewhat incorrectly due to the flexible balance we have and abusers who are trying to trick it. Nonetheless, we are developing ways to prevent such conditions!

For now, we'd recommend shuffling your Hangar a bit and teaming up with your friends who have approximately the same SP compared to yours. Try to make Matchmaking work for you!

19 трав. 2025, 15:5619.05.25
30.03.19
13
CrystalDrew

Our team is constantly working on improvements to the matchmaking system. Surely, sometimes, it can perform somewhat incorrectly due to the flexible balance we have and abusers who are trying to trick it. Nonetheless, we are developing ways to prevent such conditions!

For now, we'd recommend shuffling your Hangar a bit and teaming up with your friends who have approximately the same SP compared to yours. Try to make Matchmaking work for you!

BIFFONE, THE USUAL WORDS FOR 2 YEARS, AREN'T YOU ASHAMED?^? YOU ARE USELESS FRIEND. You make fun of the paying players, with the usual and now same excuses, if you keep quiet it's better.. poor boy the frustration must be great,,, earning a salary, making fun of honest and serious people. pfff, HUGE WASTE OF TIME

19 трав. 2025, 20:1819.05.25
02.02.25
130
CrystalDrew

Our team is constantly working on improvements to the matchmaking system. Surely, sometimes, it can perform somewhat incorrectly due to the flexible balance we have and abusers who are trying to trick it. Nonetheless, we are developing ways to prevent such conditions!

For now, we'd recommend shuffling your Hangar a bit and teaming up with your friends who have approximately the same SP compared to yours. Try to make Matchmaking work for you!

So by saying "shuffling your Hangar a bit", you mean SP dropping. 


"Surely, sometimes, it can perform somewhat incorrectly due to the flexible balance we have " What does flexible balance mean? And why have it if it can perform somewhat incorrectly sometimes?


"Our team is constantly working on improvements to the matchmaking system "For me, at least, it doesn't seem like changes are made. You never tell us when changes are made. Be open and let us know at least somethings that are going on, otherwise all this seems like a joke.

20 трав. 2025, 07:2820.05.25
30.01.24
154
CrystalDrew

Our team is constantly working on improvements to the matchmaking system. Surely, sometimes, it can perform somewhat incorrectly due to the flexible balance we have and abusers who are trying to trick it. Nonetheless, we are developing ways to prevent such conditions!

For now, we'd recommend shuffling your Hangar a bit and teaming up with your friends who have approximately the same SP compared to yours. Try to make Matchmaking work for you!

While matchmaking (which allows SP dropping) is one cause that leads to the OP's complaint, it's not the main complaint. The complaint is that the heat grouping is such that high scorers are clubbed with moderate scorers. In 5v5 tournaments, the main reason is the number of SP droppers. In FFA, there are two causes - SP droppers and high SP players that can dish out huge damage.

With these two kinds of players clubbed with more casual players in the same heat, the casual players can barely hope to earn acoins. I've raised this problem and possible solutions in an earlier thread - https://forum.plarium.com/en/mech-arena/702_game-discussion/1713932_improving-grouping-in-tournament-heats/ .

In short, there are two options:

* change tournament levels week on week instead of every day (see the thread I linked to for how this would help address both causes)

* start giving small amounts of acoins even for people who finish in position 7 or higher.


5 черв. 2025, 23:0305.06.25
5 черв. 2025, 23:16(edited)
20.08.22
39

Why on Earth would I drop down or downgrade my gear? Dropping down to play against entry-level players and AI bots for quick wins? Nah, I’d rather watch paint dry. I’ve poured a ton of effort into my gear and lots of grinding for my skills, and I’m not about to throw that all away just for some ‘easy’ victories.  That’s like showing up to a marathon in flip-flops, sure, you might finish, but what’s the point? I’ve invested significant time and resources into upgrading my equipment to perform at peak levels, so why settle for playing at a lower tier? 

But I’m here to compete at the highest level, try best to climb the ranks, and actually test my skills against the best. For me, it’s about pushing my limits, not taking the easy route. There is no great feeling like an epic close battle win! And the sting of defeat, the deep feeling that hits when you’ve given your all only to be crushed by better players, is something truly profound. It’s that love of the game, why I play, why I keep pushing forward, even in the face of loss. 

I do not think I am alone here, right?

6 черв. 2025, 10:1006.06.25
30.03.19
36

WHY in any sport, game or competition, everything is divided by maximum weight, engine size, age, power, etc. etc. and here it doesn't happen? - why do we have to compete with players with power differences in the average order of 3-6k? average because it is sometimes even more. why can't you fight with your peers in power? simple, MONEY and shopping drive, if you feel weak run and spend, as I read many have done here and now they have realized that it is a useless race, because you are always at the starting point, you power up your hangar by 300, and the opponents you will find increase by 1000k.. it has always been like this, I asked myself at the beginning 3 years ago. because i killed easily, the older ones, now i know, the system deceives you so you power up until you pass the threshold, where then you will find the opposite ... from there you ask yourself why suddenly you don't kill anymore and you run to power up, not knowing that your race will be useless. for this they limit the experience (only game on the net that does it), so as not to give you a way to understand who you are playing against, but you only see the power of their hangar, wrongly leading you to think ..I WANT IT TOO I will be powerful then ... and your race towards oblivion has just begun.

6 черв. 2025, 14:1406.06.25
20.08.22
39

Thanks for sharing your perspective. I agree that the balance in Mech Arena can feel pretty delicate, especially when it seems like the system encourages spending to keep up. It’s true that the matchmaking and power scaling sometimes give the impression that it’s more about the wallet than skill. I love the game for its fast-paced action and strategy, but I also feel that the overemphasis on power levels and the frequent stasis freezes can make matches feel crowded and a bit frustrating, especially when it seems like movement is constantly hindered.

It’s interesting how the game’s design pushes players to invest more, yet the rising power gaps can make progress feel hollow. I guess it’s a tricky balance, keeping the game engaging while also making players feel rewarded without feeling like they’re just chasing a never-ending upgrade cycle. Hopefully, the developers will consider ways to make the matchmaking more fair and the gameplay more dynamic without relying solely on spending. 

Thanks again for your insights, definitely food for thought on how we can enjoy the game while navigating its challenges! 

Just speaking my mind, never an intention to offend anyone. 

Be well all, 

Soki







6 черв. 2025, 14:4306.06.25
6 черв. 2025, 14:45(edited)
30.03.19
36

IF YOU WANT A DEMONSTRATION OF WHAT WAS SAID BEFORE HERE IT IS. my team 2 human opponents 3 bots, 3 human opponents 2 bots. only with this player the difference between my power, of 7,700 and his of 12,500, how can you not think that it is true that everything is rigged??. other new weapons have come out, now what will the revoker do? will it be nerfed?. or will the new weapon be even more powerful than the revoker... anyway it is yet another point and forget weapon. it locks on to the target, so that even the most incompetent of players, comfortably sitting drinking a cold drink on the seashore, can kill everyone effortlessly. I'm sorry to say it, but in this game they don't even know what ability is. ,.

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6 черв. 2025, 15:2506.06.25
20.08.22
39
tar

While matchmaking (which allows SP dropping) is one cause that leads to the OP's complaint, it's not the main complaint. The complaint is that the heat grouping is such that high scorers are clubbed with moderate scorers. In 5v5 tournaments, the main reason is the number of SP droppers. In FFA, there are two causes - SP droppers and high SP players that can dish out huge damage.

With these two kinds of players clubbed with more casual players in the same heat, the casual players can barely hope to earn acoins. I've raised this problem and possible solutions in an earlier thread - https://forum.plarium.com/en/mech-arena/702_game-discussion/1713932_improving-grouping-in-tournament-heats/ .

In short, there are two options:

* change tournament levels week on week instead of every day (see the thread I linked to for how this would help address both causes)

* start giving small amounts of acoins even for people who finish in position 7 or higher.


Thanks for the update, CrystalDrew. Honestly, I’ve been waiting for some real change, but it feels like my concerns are just echoing into a void. My concerns about the real issues, matchmaking, unfair grouping, and the blatant exploitation, get brushed aside or lost in rhetoric, and nothing ever changes. 

In Mech Arena, though, it seems “tournament” has taken on a whole new meaning. Instead of fair matchups and balanced brackets, we get a wild jungle gym of mismatched SP levels, exploiters dropping SP to cheat the system  

*A tournament is a organized competition where players or teams compete against each other in a series of matches. It usually follows a specific format, such as knockout, round-robin, or elimination brackets, with the goal of finding a winner or ranking the participants based on their performance over multiple rounds.

*Basically, a tournament is supposed to be a fair and well-structured event where players face opponents of similar skill or ranking. It should have clear rules and a fair process to determine who the best player or team is. 

As a higher SP player, I’ve poured a ton of resources into my builds and enjoy a fair fight. Instead, I keep running into opponents with SP levels that seem to be from a different universe, easy points, quick rewards, and all the fun of beating up on entry-level bots or noobs, while the players with lower SP drop hangar SP just sit in the same bracket and don’t even really compete with us, they just drop SP to win cheap matches. It’s almost impressive how the system rewards casual players so generously while the dedicated, higher SP crowd gets the short end of the stick.  

This repeated cycle of unfair issues leaves a bad taste, making me question whether this is just how the system is intentionally designed, or if it’s a calculated tactic by the developers to keep players in the dark, exploiting the imbalance to maintain control. It’s clear that genuine concerns are continually brushed aside, as if the entire system is crafted to favor certain players while others are left to grind in vain.  

All of this, for like-minded players like myself, and there are many, is only going to further limit participation. It’s a preventable outcome that looms on the horizon for Mech Arena if these issues and approaches continue unchecked, especially since many skilled players have already bypassed or ignored thier participation in what Mech Arena defines as "tournaments," choosing instead to forge their own paths inside the system. 

Never an intention to offend anyone just speaking my mind. 

Be Well All, 

soki

7 черв. 2025, 13:2007.06.25
30.03.19
36

here is a HALLUCINATING proof, for a total imbalance in favor of the swindlers..

In this way I personally have no incentive to spend any money in this game, when I see the high level of disinterest in balancing this game, where everyone should fight against similar or slightly superior peers. the incentive should be measured, playing like these swindlers play, is only for the incompetent. . THE CLEAR PROOF THAT the game rewards the swindlers, and not true anility.

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14 черв. 2025, 06:3414.06.25
14 черв. 2025, 06:40(edited)
20.08.22
39

Oh yeah! Drop-hanging strategies are considered one of the best ways to succeed in Mech Arena tournaments. You go drop hangers! They're great for all the free-to-play (FTP) and low SP players. I have nothing against these strategies, but I wonder: why do they have to be in the same category as higher SP players? Why not have separate categories so everyone can compete on a level playing field? 

After pouring a small fortune into this game, why the hell would I want to drop down after all the effort I’ve put into building my hanger to the best of my resources?  This is such a “big deal” to me that it sucks now that I’m officially losing all motivation to participate in tournaments. 

That said, until this “brilliant” gimmick gets a serious change, I’m on hiatus. Limiting my playtime, because clearly, my enthusiasm is becoming as dead as road kill. Limit my playtime, I limit my spending... And my passion? Hanging by a thread… or maybe just dangling from a drop-hanging tactic.  Que' sera', sera'.   

14 черв. 2025, 14:1814.06.25
16 черв. 2025, 21:42(edited)
23.02.21
57

I stopped chasing my tail like a clueless puppy awhile ago and maybe play 1 match a month now and most the time don't even finish the match due to the cheating Bots and SP droppers making the match feel orchestrated by the game design and not a human players skills or abilities. We pay them with our time and money only for them to use and abuse us for more of our time and money. All the changes to the game and all the future changes to the game are only designed to keep their greed meter topped up. Little Johnny's $10 Google Play card money and a weeks or less worth of playtime before they go back to Roblox is more important.

14 черв. 2025, 14:2214.06.25
23.02.21
57

Also, I've spent a lot of money on this game during the time I've been playing.. I was here at Global Launch, day 1.

14 черв. 2025, 21:4414.06.25
14 черв. 2025, 21:48(edited)
26.10.24
231
[WHALE] 4Play

Thanks for the update, CrystalDrew. Honestly, I’ve been waiting for some real change, but it feels like my concerns are just echoing into a void. My concerns about the real issues, matchmaking, unfair grouping, and the blatant exploitation, get brushed aside or lost in rhetoric, and nothing ever changes. 

In Mech Arena, though, it seems “tournament” has taken on a whole new meaning. Instead of fair matchups and balanced brackets, we get a wild jungle gym of mismatched SP levels, exploiters dropping SP to cheat the system  

*A tournament is a organized competition where players or teams compete against each other in a series of matches. It usually follows a specific format, such as knockout, round-robin, or elimination brackets, with the goal of finding a winner or ranking the participants based on their performance over multiple rounds.

*Basically, a tournament is supposed to be a fair and well-structured event where players face opponents of similar skill or ranking. It should have clear rules and a fair process to determine who the best player or team is. 

As a higher SP player, I’ve poured a ton of resources into my builds and enjoy a fair fight. Instead, I keep running into opponents with SP levels that seem to be from a different universe, easy points, quick rewards, and all the fun of beating up on entry-level bots or noobs, while the players with lower SP drop hangar SP just sit in the same bracket and don’t even really compete with us, they just drop SP to win cheap matches. It’s almost impressive how the system rewards casual players so generously while the dedicated, higher SP crowd gets the short end of the stick.  

This repeated cycle of unfair issues leaves a bad taste, making me question whether this is just how the system is intentionally designed, or if it’s a calculated tactic by the developers to keep players in the dark, exploiting the imbalance to maintain control. It’s clear that genuine concerns are continually brushed aside, as if the entire system is crafted to favor certain players while others are left to grind in vain.  

All of this, for like-minded players like myself, and there are many, is only going to further limit participation. It’s a preventable outcome that looms on the horizon for Mech Arena if these issues and approaches continue unchecked, especially since many skilled players have already bypassed or ignored thier participation in what Mech Arena defines as "tournaments," choosing instead to forge their own paths inside the system. 

Never an intention to offend anyone just speaking my mind. 

Be Well All, 

soki

This is what I think about there little Discord Tournaments organized. They already have there winner picked before the tournament even gets started. They cheat everyone by asking for there Mech Arena ID plus there team matts ID. They take a look there invatory power plus their hangar power. From there they'll have the winning team picked out and miss match everyone but there winning team. That team will have an eazy run though out the tournament. If anyone don't think so. Why would they want players ID. Not just to make sure that its really you who says your that person. They'll tell you its for the tourneys tracking system . But it's really a way of cheating. I played in the Quarter CPC tourney And they missmatched us by way much. And when I brought that up. Their reply was what was I talking about thy continue saying that my team and the other team was evenly match. They have put us against the top 11 team  in mech arena my team was nowhere close to even being on the top 100. ... as i poped in and out of looking at there scoring. I've notice that the winning team. Had the most by weeks then anyother team in the tourney

CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
16 черв. 2025, 11:4416.06.25
10.02.23
2761
KillJoy402

This is what I think about there little Discord Tournaments organized. They already have there winner picked before the tournament even gets started. They cheat everyone by asking for there Mech Arena ID plus there team matts ID. They take a look there invatory power plus their hangar power. From there they'll have the winning team picked out and miss match everyone but there winning team. That team will have an eazy run though out the tournament. If anyone don't think so. Why would they want players ID. Not just to make sure that its really you who says your that person. They'll tell you its for the tourneys tracking system . But it's really a way of cheating. I played in the Quarter CPC tourney And they missmatched us by way much. And when I brought that up. Their reply was what was I talking about thy continue saying that my team and the other team was evenly match. They have put us against the top 11 team  in mech arena my team was nowhere close to even being on the top 100. ... as i poped in and out of looking at there scoring. I've notice that the winning team. Had the most by weeks then anyother team in the tourney

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17 черв. 2025, 12:3417.06.25
02.10.23
2

 there is aleays loop holes to Shystie algorithms. if you find a way to upgrade weapons and mech in such a manner that it keeps you where it seems fair then it makes it worth playing. When you do large upgrades too fast it throws it out of balance