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Feb 2, 2025, 11:2002/02/25
01/30/24
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feedback on random maps in January 28 5x5 tournament test

Hello, Plarium.

I initially thought having random maps was an interesting idea. Now that it's been a few days, however, I've changed my mind. Having specific maps allows you to strategize for each heat. That sets it apart from the regular 5x5 death matches. With random maps, tournament gameplay feels no different than regular 5x5.

So, I feel it would be better to either stick to the specific maps, or find some other way to make gameplay different from regular 5x5. Thanks!

(Matchmaking is also a problem in this test, but I've covered that in a post that is dedicated to matchmaking. We don't need to discuss it here.)

(EDIT: Added "I feel it would be better to". A sincere thanks to Samurai for pointing out that that original statement may have sounded "bossy".)

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NihilusModerator
Feb 2, 2025, 17:3202/02/25
01/06/21
9

Thank you for the feedback, we will be sure to include it in the feedback report.

Feb 3, 2025, 14:4202/03/25
03/16/23
199
Nihilus

Thank you for the feedback, we will be sure to include it in the feedback report.

No, I disagree with his statement. Tar is one of those players who whines that you are choosing specific maps for 5 v 5 tournaments and then yells in your ear to make the maps varey. Then, when you do, he whines again saying that the maps should not vary, and then he speaks as if you are the one at fault, saying "So, either stick to the specific maps, or find some other way to make gameplay different from regular 5x5." Who are you tar to speak like this. The fact they did what you, along with a lot of other people wanted, shows how they feel about us. So you are just being disrespectful, you are not the boss here. Just suggest, and do not TELL them what to do and then whine when they do what you say. Accept that your judgement was incorrect. I see you never said you made the mistake or that you were sorry. It seems you don't know how to accept a loss. And the fact you said 'thanks' as if you really do expect them to listen to you again says a lot about your personality.

And I also disagree with doing specific maps. Without specific maps, tanking wouldn't be that much of a problem. You see, people know what mechs to use when tanking, because they already know the maps being played. If they don't know, then it would be harder to tank. Also, we need to start playing older maps too, not just the newer ones and not just the same ones over and over again. There needs to be diversity. I think that them changing the maps to random is a very great Idea. It will also help you in building a hanger that is relativley good in all maps. It will also help with skill and not just map knowledge.


Feb 3, 2025, 15:5102/03/25
Feb 3, 2025, 15:55(edited)
01/30/24
154
S A M U R A I

No, I disagree with his statement. Tar is one of those players who whines that you are choosing specific maps for 5 v 5 tournaments and then yells in your ear to make the maps varey. Then, when you do, he whines again saying that the maps should not vary, and then he speaks as if you are the one at fault, saying "So, either stick to the specific maps, or find some other way to make gameplay different from regular 5x5." Who are you tar to speak like this. The fact they did what you, along with a lot of other people wanted, shows how they feel about us. So you are just being disrespectful, you are not the boss here. Just suggest, and do not TELL them what to do and then whine when they do what you say. Accept that your judgement was incorrect. I see you never said you made the mistake or that you were sorry. It seems you don't know how to accept a loss. And the fact you said 'thanks' as if you really do expect them to listen to you again says a lot about your personality.

And I also disagree with doing specific maps. Without specific maps, tanking wouldn't be that much of a problem. You see, people know what mechs to use when tanking, because they already know the maps being played. If they don't know, then it would be harder to tank. Also, we need to start playing older maps too, not just the newer ones and not just the same ones over and over again. There needs to be diversity. I think that them changing the maps to random is a very great Idea. It will also help you in building a hanger that is relativley good in all maps. It will also help with skill and not just map knowledge.


"Tar is one of those players who whines that you are choosing specific maps for 5 v 5 tournaments and then yells in your ear to make the maps varey."

You might be mistaking me for someone else. I don't recall ever providing any such requests regarding tournament maps.

"Who are you tar to speak like this .. you are not the boss here"

Indeed I am not :-). Admittedly, my language may have sounded bossy to anyone with an overly sensitive disposition. I will fix it and credit you (sincerely.. not as a gibe). The intention of course was to voice an opinion. That is the the intention of every post by every person in this forum. That's a given. You don't have to start with "In my opinion" for every statement since that should be implied. However, as I said, in this instance my tone can perhaps be misconstrued by some, so I will fix it.

"Without specific maps, tanking wouldn't be that much of a problem. .. You see, people know what mechs to use when tanking, because they already know the maps being played."

By tankers I'll assume you mean SP droppers. (I don't know what "tanking" means.) Agreed that they (and all players in fact) would be able to pick what mechs and weapons to use, but how does that lead to a conclusion that SP droppers would benefit more than they would with random maps? In my observation, SP droppers do not have a variety of SP dropping builds. It's usually (if not always) one size fits all. Have you observed something different, that leads you to this claim?

"I think that them changing the maps to random is a very great Idea."

I respect your right to have a different opinion.

Feb 4, 2025, 07:5602/04/25
Feb 4, 2025, 07:57(edited)
01/30/24
154

By the way, Plarium team, I should clarify that I don't mean that maps should be fixed forever. Just that for a particular heat I like the ability to think about and change my hangar to suit the map. A greater variety of maps across heats is definitely welcome.

And also to be clear, it's not a big deal. I don't think I'll complain if maps become random, but I'm just recording my preference here. (What's a test without feedback :-)? ) It would be nice for 5v5 tournaments to have some sort of unique character that separates them from regular 5v5 matches. One option is for a fixed map per heat as it currently is, but there may be other ways as well.

Feb 4, 2025, 19:2002/04/25
03/16/23
199

Hello, sorry, I'll be more clear. 

You supported the idea of having random maps, as you have said, "I initially thought having random maps was an interesting idea." Although you didn't specifically write that you wanted random maps, you supported other people's writings within yourself, as though you were also behind their pleas for random 5 v 5 maps and waiting for a response. 

It's just that your wording method came off as disrespectful and a little domineering (bossy) statement. Everyone can be that way sometimes, so you're not alone. Yet, I see you changed the wording which is great and was much needed. And wow, just by one response, you've changed the way I view you. I know my viewpoint may not matter, but at first, my view of you was not good, but now it's changed. You accepted a sort of 'loss', and changed your wording. A true man! The biggest room is the room for improvement and you've walked into that room with no complaints, which is a very admirable quality - humility. According to this, you are not like most people who can't accept changing their ways, yet you did. Though, this is not about me, so I will not say thank you, I will say a great job!

Tanking is sp droping and becoming like a tank to others who don't have as good as a mech you have. 


However, when you said 'unique character', I thought of this. How about for every other 5v5 tournament, there was random maps, and then for the next 5v5 tournament that comes up, the maps are already chosen. So it would cycle from random to mandatory maps.

Also, don't credit me, I am just a bystander, a nobody, this is your thread, not mines. But I appreciate it bro!

Feb 5, 2025, 08:5402/05/25
01/30/24
154
S A M U R A I

Hello, sorry, I'll be more clear. 

You supported the idea of having random maps, as you have said, "I initially thought having random maps was an interesting idea." Although you didn't specifically write that you wanted random maps, you supported other people's writings within yourself, as though you were also behind their pleas for random 5 v 5 maps and waiting for a response. 

It's just that your wording method came off as disrespectful and a little domineering (bossy) statement. Everyone can be that way sometimes, so you're not alone. Yet, I see you changed the wording which is great and was much needed. And wow, just by one response, you've changed the way I view you. I know my viewpoint may not matter, but at first, my view of you was not good, but now it's changed. You accepted a sort of 'loss', and changed your wording. A true man! The biggest room is the room for improvement and you've walked into that room with no complaints, which is a very admirable quality - humility. According to this, you are not like most people who can't accept changing their ways, yet you did. Though, this is not about me, so I will not say thank you, I will say a great job!

Tanking is sp droping and becoming like a tank to others who don't have as good as a mech you have. 


However, when you said 'unique character', I thought of this. How about for every other 5v5 tournament, there was random maps, and then for the next 5v5 tournament that comes up, the maps are already chosen. So it would cycle from random to mandatory maps.

Also, don't credit me, I am just a bystander, a nobody, this is your thread, not mines. But I appreciate it bro!

"You supported the idea of having random maps, as you have said, "I initially thought having random maps was an interesting idea." Although you didn't specifically write that you wanted random maps, you supported other people's writings within yourself, as though you were also behind their pleas for random 5 v 5 maps and waiting for a response." 

Ah. I see the confusion. By "initially", I meant in the first day or two of the test tournament. However my view changed after playing the test tournament for a few days. I was not aware of other people making such a request, and the first time I heard of a random tourny map was when the test itself began. Hope that clears it up.

However, when you said 'unique character', I thought of this. How about for every other 5v5 tournament, there was random maps, and then for the next 5v5 tournament that comes up, the maps are already chosen. So it would cycle from random to mandatory maps. 

That sounds like a simple and doable approach that Plarium can consider.

Feb 5, 2025, 13:5102/05/25
01/20/25
2

I loved the random map tournament - it should become part of the cycle. Forces players to adapt - more skill involved. That being said I'm still rarely able to earn A-Coins due to being matched against hangers with multiple legendary mechs and/or weapons. So unfair :(

Feb 5, 2025, 17:0902/05/25
07/17/23
86

I didn't like the random maps, I like to be able to know what map I will be playing on.

CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
Feb 6, 2025, 10:5402/06/25
02/10/23
2761

Thanks a lot for your comments, guys! We have passed all the thoughts to our devs 👍