Snowgoon said:

My spirit wardens on facebook are at level 4 - http://prntscr.com/kremqz

PvP points are not the same as you might expect, so someone is being economical with the truth

I only got 6 pvp points when my castle was firebombed

but got 210 points when they killed 5 dragons - http://prntscr.com/kreulf

and 328 points for killing 9 wyverns - http://prntscr.com/krfe3i

so something is wrong, but don't think I'm complaining

If Fireballs are obsolete for pvp then I will be delighted

I am sorry this statement confuses me - the recipient of fireballs does not really receive many points the person sending the fireball does

so how many points does the person sending the fireball get?  They are still killing troops you build that you don't get to revive a percentage of and you have to rebuild them - so does the person sending the fireball still get as many points as they would with regular defense?

I don't think the Spirit Wardens make fireballs obsolete they are just cheaper to rebuild than your regular army ....

It is impossible to get full info from facebook players

This is the best we have for now, but they claim the castle was stacked

http://prntscr.com/krgqmf

http://prntscr.com/krgru0

Snowgoon is correct, we have had spirit wardens for some time now on the Dark Plains, as much as I dont like fireballs dropped on my castle I do use them myself from time to time and bombing a castle with maxed spirit wardens in the 1st teir can take close to 20 fireballs for very little points going to the attacker so yes those spirit wardens are well worth upgrading 

BG SLAYER said:

If you have the soulstones and sketches to max out teir 2 of spirit wardens and have them built sitting out in your castle, your castle can take up to 100 fireballs without any damage to your troops, weir and castle guards, this has been tested on the Dark Plains server as well, I hope this helps

What?!?!?

Soulstone use for older players,, finally can use them again... What about the newer players who did not have thousands on hand?

But, SKETCHES also... That does not help MANY players and will drive some more away. The 'balance" gets skewed again.

Yeah, I have not logged since the update, but might have to just see for myself... If true yet another reason NOT to login.

Spirit wardens are optional and do not take up any room in your normal buildques as they are built from the Town Hall, you dont even have to build them if you dont want to

I do coin, but I have not taken mine past teir 1 because I find it more fun with autohide on to watch players waste their bombs on me and get no points, as for Snowgoon's question about a wraith killing a spirit warden, that all depends on the attackers hitpoints on their wraiths because only the Divine spirits and Infantry spirits will defend against a wraith being infantry

With spirit wardens they are the 1st line of defense, they go in to fight while the other troops sit back in your castle, once the wardens are dead to fireballs or their respective troop types or the attack is much larger than the wardens can take in the hit, only then will the other troop types at your castle start to be killed off too

Snowgoon, with your other questions about does the castle defense bonus benefit the seiger, maybe start a new thread on that part, see what replies come of it, i will even reply to it on a new thread through my own experience with it only because this post is about spirit wardens 

Bonuses were removed from wraiths last year

http://prntscr.com/ksh3a8

Seems plarium messed up and forgot a few - but I doubt we will see wraiths with more than 100 offense very often

even if Black Rose noobs are dumb enough to send high grade champions and get them stunned for 5 days - http://prntscr.com/ksh53q

Sir Dan Saul Knight said:

Snowgoon said:

Does this mean that besieging armies benefit from Castle Walls?

Yes- the besieging army gets the castle defence bonus.

It does give an interesting wrinkle to helping to liberate a league mate who has massive castle bonus. Seeing as being sieged has virtually no down side, it might be better to leave it alone!!!

So when we self-liberate, our own castle walls are working against us and defending the enemy?

So typical of plarium game designers to do the exact opposite of logical

There was a time when we could 'liberate' using firebombs ... seems like a bloody good idea to bring that back again

THE SOUL OF MELLOWNESS said:

Spirit Wardens stand there to take the attack and can not change positions like other units?

you mean like go to catacombs or other people's castles? 

THE SOUL OF MELLOWNESS said:

yes and when you are not ready to defend, they are like a plate to shoot for others. 

I do not understand what it is useful in here? There are so many things in this and silly monsters standing outside and uncontrollable (phoenix, Cerberus, immortal... ) every time i see them lying on the ground looking stupid which you can not imagine .

If I can not defend it, then please go away is what I see.

agree at lower levels they are kind of useless - but once you have started to upgrade them they get better and will eventually stave off fireball is what we are told

which is true a fireball got 9 points earlier in my league they only killed spirit wardens but they were already upgrading to the second tier

Jezebel said:

which is true a fireball got 9 points earlier in my league they only killed spirit wardens but they were already upgrading to the second tier

Upgrading spirit wardens gives FEWER pvp points - The stronger they get, the less we get in return

7 points from fireballs

https://prnt.sc/kvgfcy - https://prnt.sc/kvgijz

https://prnt.sc/kvgjbw - https://prnt.sc/kvgkng

power points from 2 fireballs - http://prntscr.com/kvgq2g

They had to do the low PVP points on spirit wardens otherwise people would have just got free PvP off their alts.

If a summary could be provided of how many sketches are needed to upgrade Spirit Wardens at all levels to maximum it would be helpful ....

Snowgoon said:

Jezebel said:

Snowgoon said:

Bonuses were removed from wraiths last year

http://prntscr.com/ksh3a8

Seems plarium messed up and forgot a few - but I doubt we will see wraiths with more than 100 offense very often

even if Black Rose noobs are dumb enough to send high grade champions and get them stunned for 5 days - http://prntscr.com/ksh53q

my wraiths are twice as strong as they were when i first started the game - we do not upgrade wraiths so they are getting some kind of bonus from somewhere

http://prntscr.com/kspa2l

That is exactly what I meant - Most of these bonuses (if not all) should not be applied to Wraiths

They removed ALL bonuses from our Castle Guards and most bonuses from all Legendaries

There are no bonuses which apply to our Spirit Wardens, not even Champions or Castle Walls

They screwed up again lol

so you don't like bonuses to your troops?  keep complaining so the rest of us lose the bonuses we have earned through daily play and upgrading our castles, fortresses and heroes .....

Jezebel said:

Snowgoon said:

Bonuses were removed from wraiths last year

http://prntscr.com/ksh3a8

Seems plarium messed up and forgot a few - but I doubt we will see wraiths with more than 100 offense very often

even if Black Rose noobs are dumb enough to send high grade champions and get them stunned for 5 days - http://prntscr.com/ksh53q

my wraiths are twice as strong as they were when i first started the game - we do not upgrade wraiths so they are getting some kind of bonus from somewhere

http://prntscr.com/kspa2l

That is exactly what I meant - Most of these bonuses (if not all) should not be applied to Wraiths

They removed ALL bonuses from our Castle Guards and most bonuses from all Legendaries

There are no bonuses which apply to our Spirit Wardens, not even Champions or Castle Walls

They screwed up again lol

Snowgoon said:

Bonuses were removed from wraiths last year

http://prntscr.com/ksh3a8

Seems plarium messed up and forgot a few - but I doubt we will see wraiths with more than 100 offense very often

even if Black Rose noobs are dumb enough to send high grade champions and get them stunned for 5 days - http://prntscr.com/ksh53q

my wraiths are twice as strong as they were when i first started the game - we do not upgrade wraiths so they are getting some kind of bonus from somewhere

http://prntscr.com/kspa2l

BG SLAYER said:

Spirit wardens are optional and do not take up any room in your normal buildques as they are built from the Town Hall, you dont even have to build them if you dont want to

I do coin, but I have not taken mine past teir 1 because I find it more fun with autohide on to watch players waste their bombs on me and get no points, as for Snowgoon's question about a wraith killing a spirit warden, that all depends on the attackers hitpoints on their wraiths because only the Divine spirits and Infantry spirits will defend against a wraith being infantry

With spirit wardens they are the 1st line of defense, they go in to fight while the other troops sit back in your castle, once the wardens are dead to fireballs or their respective troop types or the attack is much larger than the wardens can take in the hit, only then will the other troop types at your castle start to be killed off too

Snowgoon, with your other questions about does the castle defense bonus benefit the seiger, maybe start a new thread on that part, see what replies come of it, i will even reply to it on a new thread through my own experience with it only because this post is about spirit wardens 

my wraiths http://prntscr.com/kse0n0

i suppose if i was running offense enhancers they would be high enough to kill an infantry spirit warden

basically pointless to build until you have them maxed though because people are now just sending 10 paks of fireballs rather than one