For discount , I see that have different in member base on their level.
For low level:
http://prntscr.com/e28zyr
http://prntscr.com/e2909g
High level:
http://prntscr.com/e291e4
So if anyone here can explain me the reason why high level player need to spend more than???
Be remember that high player is longtime player and more.....
Best regards,
offerd is based on spending pattern. Stop spend and get good offers. Just have to wait it out.For discount , I see that have different in member base on their level.
For low level:
http://prntscr.com/e28zyr
http://prntscr.com/e2909g
High level:
http://prntscr.com/e291e4So if anyone here can explain me the reason why high level player need to spend more than???
Be remember that high player is longtime player and more.....
Best regards,
No... it not true. I ask a lot player at high level it also the same.
It just base on your level .
anyone said:
No... it not true. I ask a lot player at high level it also the same.
It just base on your level .
level 80 something, and I recieved 80% offers. Then again I spend maybe something every 2-3 months...
Thanks.
But in my view that should increase discount when you buy more and more
Of course if they did offer better discounts to players who spend more it would just give an even bigger advantage to mega coiners. You spend 50 bucks on the game, so you get 60% discounts. Somebody else spends $100 on the game, so they get 80% discounts. That means for twice the money they got 4x as much stuff as you. What if I spend $10,000 on the game? How big of a discount should I get? 90%? 95%? Imagine how big of an army somebody could get spending $10,000 on sapphires at a 95% discount...anyone said:
Thanks.
But in my view that should increase discount when you buy more and moreHow would that maximise Plarium revenue?
If you are regularly spending, why would they need to discount more to you. You are clearly happy sending at the level you are. They get nothing extra by discounting to you, they just lose revenue.
BUT if you aren't spending then the offers get better and better trying to find the sweet spot at which you start spending again.
And yes it is utter cynical.
Yes it's completely unfair as different people are paying different amount for exactly the same stuff.
Not the only developer to do this.... because quite simply this industry is sick and morally bankrupt.
Offer are based on where you live, Africans recieve the worst offers
the worst offer you can get in Africa is of you use an IP from middle Africa.
The best offers are given to players in Europe, particularly eastern.
When I need to spend a lot i switch IP to eastern Europe and wait for new offers.
You can receive 80% on 330$ offer there.
but in the rest of the world it bounce at 80% of 45%.
I don't even have to look, 9 $ offer every time, in the untamed land and the Dark plains, Every time, always.
if there is an algorithm, then it is biased on
=Location,
=Level
=race
=sex
Women receive better offer, Indians receive better offers, ect
Well, if that is an actual fact. Then we should stop spend a dime period unti everyone get equal offers.lOffer are based on where you live, Africans recieve the worst offers
the worst offer you can get in Africa is of you use an IP from middle Africa.
The best offers are given to players in Europe, particularly eastern.
When I need to spend a lot i switch IP to eastern Europe and wait for new offers.
You can receive 80% on 330$ offer there.
but in the rest of the world it bounce at 80% of 45%.
I don't even have to look, 9 $ offer every time, in the untamed land and the Dark plains, Every time, always.
if there is an algorithm, then it is biased on
=Location,
=Level
=race
=sex
Women receive better offer, Indians receive better offers, ect
Lol i should get some pretty great offers and i am in India. But all i get is 50% discount which is not as good as compared to my friend who is in US with 70% discount. the only difference i have seen is that i have spent more than him in the last 2 month.
Also my friend in Africa and another in Europe has spent a lot more than me in the last 2 months and he gets worse offer than me.
Gadheras said:
Oracle said:
Well, if that is an actual fact. Then we should stop spend a dime period unti everyone get equal offers.lOffer are based on where you live, Africans recieve the worst offers
the worst offer you can get in Africa is of you use an IP from middle Africa.
The best offers are given to players in Europe, particularly eastern.
When I need to spend a lot i switch IP to eastern Europe and wait for new offers.
You can receive 80% on 330$ offer there.
but in the rest of the world it bounce at 80% of 45%.
I don't even have to look, 9 $ offer every time, in the untamed land and the Dark plains, Every time, always.
if there is an algorithm, then it is biased on
=Location,
=Level
=race
=sex
Women receive better offer, Indians receive better offers, ect
It's not. I don't know where he got that information, but I'm guessing his sample size was far too small.
The algorithm is based almost entirely on previous spending habits of each account.Gadheras said:
anyone said:
offerd is based on spending pattern. Stop spend and get good offers. Just have to wait it out.For discount , I see that have different in member base on their level.
For low level:
http://prntscr.com/e28zyr
http://prntscr.com/e2909g
High level:
http://prntscr.com/e291e4So if anyone here can explain me the reason why high level player need to spend more than???
Be remember that high player is longtime player and more.....
Best regards,
This. Listen to him if you want better offers. Try how regular spending changes the quality of your offers for the worse if you want an experiment. Be strongly biased on what you value in a pack compared to what they calculate their bonus percentage of.
Good effort on the pattern assessment. I hope you have also considered that all of them have spend equal amount of money and started from equal package at the same time frame. Cause if that differs then you assessment maybe one sided.BiohazarD said:
It's not. I don't know where he got that information, but I'm guessing his sample size was far too small.
The algorithm is based almost entirely on previous spending habits of each account.We have VPNs nowadays, you can try the same experiment and you will come to the same conclusion. My sample size was not small, It was in the upwards of 3 people per country.
Facts, Indians receive better offers, Facts, Africans receive worst offers. In fact I don't remember the rime I bought in these game using my country VPN. I always switch to a Eastern Europe VPN just before they add special offers.
As with VIP, 99% of all VIP I know are from Australia
Oracle said:
BiohazarD said:
It's not. I don't know where he got that information, but I'm guessing his sample size was far too small.
The algorithm is based almost entirely on previous spending habits of each account.We have VPNs nowadays, you can try the same experiment and you will come to the same conclusion. My sample size was not small, It was in the upwards of 3 people per country.
Facts, Indians receive better offers, Facts, Africans receive worst offers. In fact I don't remember the rime I bought in these game using my country VPN. I always switch to a Eastern Europe VPN just before they add special offers.
As with VIP, 99% of all VIP I know are from Australia
Yeah 3 people is not nearly a large enough sample size to get an accurate estimate (unless you tracked their spending habits and discounts over an extended period of time, but even then it's questionable). As for lots of VIPs being from Australia, most of the VIPs I know do live in Australia but I don't think it's a trend just coincidence.
I don't see how it would consider race or gender, as you're not required to enter this information anywhere in the game.Today Normal offers,
both at untamed and Dark plains http://prntscr.com/ecu6x6
my final proof that special offer use a logarithm that heavily rely on players location(IP) and therefore demographic. Therefore the algorithm is ''set'' to make sure I pay more that others. I don't Blame Plarium, With The Ruperts, Koos, and Motsepes playing these game, and being from SA. Why won't they make all SA pay more.
I will let these rest there,
you would think they would give good discounts to those who spend to keep them happy but nope not the case - fact if you spend your offers are worse, if you quit spending for a few months THEN they give you a good offer
Yes the more you spend the more expensive the offer if you don't spend you get awesome deals to lure you into spendingLords and Ladies, you know that we have regular Bank Offers and Special Offers with bonuses.
Special Offers appear according to a set algorithm which is constantly evolving. Several departments work on the development of that algorithm and they rely on analytics data, marketing research and other information they receive through their research channels.
You can receive a cheap or an expensive Special Offer, and it is chosen by that algorithm. If you don’t like your current Offers or find them expensive, you can wait for better ones, and they will appear sooner or later.
Yep, from what I've seen if you spend more the size of the package goes up and the discount rate goes down.Eugenia Misura said:Yes the more you spend the more expensive the offer if you don't spend you get awesome deals to lure you into spendingLords and Ladies, you know that we have regular Bank Offers and Special Offers with bonuses.
Special Offers appear according to a set algorithm which is constantly evolving. Several departments work on the development of that algorithm and they rely on analytics data, marketing research and other information they receive through their research channels.
You can receive a cheap or an expensive Special Offer, and it is chosen by that algorithm. If you don’t like your current Offers or find them expensive, you can wait for better ones, and they will appear sooner or later.
Oracle said:
BiohazarD said:
It's not. I don't know where he got that information, but I'm guessing his sample size was far too small.
The algorithm is based almost entirely on previous spending habits of each account.We have VPNs nowadays, you can try the same experiment and you will come to the same conclusion. My sample size was not small, It was in the upwards of 3 people per country.
Facts, Indians receive better offers, Facts, Africans receive worst offers. In fact I don't remember the rime I bought in these game using my country VPN. I always switch to a Eastern Europe VPN just before they add special offers.
As with VIP, 99% of all VIP I know are from Australia
Usually players that use Proxy, Tor, VPN, which hide IP address - is in deep multi-accounting.
I use a VPN because I can not access the game unless I do
The problem is with my network provider servers
That's why in some cases we ask players to install a VPN
Tautas said:
Oracle said:
Usually players that use Proxy, Tor, VPN, which hide IP address - is in deep multi-accounting.
I am not sure why would anyone use a proxy, But I use VPN to access better offer in India and Europe
I also recommend VPN to players who have lags, and network problems, Or players who just want to cut down on upload speed. EG if I want to access X server that are In Australia, I switch on Madagascars VPN. which cut upload speed by atleast 25%
I also use VPN to access logged document on the web, like articles written from X university which are available for free and without subscription to student and staff from X university.
There are many reasons why people use VPN, but to use it for alts is stupid because alts are stupid
