Amazing

Well good luck.

If you don't mind me asking, why did you not just smash all beacons and fortress on the map, then you will have a war. 

But then again good luck.

oracle said:

Amazing

Well good luck.

If you don't mind me asking, why did you not just smash all beacons and fortress on the map, then you will have a war. 

But then again good luck.

Great idea. And how many beacons would one have to smash before YOUR league accepts a war? ;) In our experience, the more of their stuff we break the less willing a league is  to go to war with us.

Marcus

Captain Die blutige Horde

Hi Jezebel,

Our war invite to you was six months ago. We had 10 beacons not to long ago. Destiny destroyed them (of course during the beacon massacre). Why didn't you accept the war then? 

So please spare me those flimsy excuses.

Cao

Too bad there are so many cowards here.   

Why does no one accept a war invite? Are there so many inactives in your leagues and you only hide that behind a few player with mega-armies?

Ladymum/Die blutige Horde   

Six months ago when I was in Destiny you had no beacons - we discussed it then and we decided that since you had nothing for us to hit in return that we would not accept.

You all may have missed it but I am no longer in Destiny and haven't been since before Christmas.

I am stating the obvious, if you have no "holdings" for other leagues to retaliate on then there is no benefit to accepting a war request  Also if you challenge a league where the majority of its members are in a totally different time zone then the content you are looking for is less, if you are online at different times than my players why would I accept a war request?  There is no content for them if your castles are empty because you have catacombed and logged off

Excuses, nothing but excuses. 

The war invite was always open, you could have accepted it at any time. 

If you can play, you can also make points against us. Look at our other wars,

as mentioned Beacon Raides and Empire of Wolves. 

You're only worried you lose.

Cao

Excuses, nothing but excuses. 

The war invite was always open, you could have accepted it at any time. 

If you can play, you can also make points against us. Look at our other wars,

as mentioned Beacon Raides and Empire of Wolves. 

You're only worried you lose.

Cao

Besides, 

Destiny has amazing 62k points "at war". Is there nothing to hit anywhere else? Or are all the others better than you as well?

And Why then, are you defending them?

Cao

Caotarch said:

Hello everyone.......


.........

Since there are no other options for us, we will (unless things change from what they're now) start bashing down beacons during every massacre event, just in the comfy way you all like so much. The smaller leagues, which will get hit, can address their thanks to the "awesome big posers".

My 2 Cents.

Cheers Cao

Leader "Blutige Horde"

I dont get it,

On one end you are sort of complaining that big leagues smashed you out of beacons and they suck. so in retaliation you are going to take out smaller leagues to show them whats up. Isnt that kind of like a snake biting its won tail? You are going to do what you complained about being done to you. ? and that they can thank the big leagues for what you do to them, even though the big leagues most likely prey on them also. Sort of skitzo line of thinking. But anywho by all means though have fun smashing beacons in the massacre.

Gadheras said:

One of the most retarded and ridicilous features in the game. The need for invite someone for war and they have to accept for it to happen. Should be able to war anyone, anytime. Burn everything, leave them nothing.....

Well basically thats how it is, but to get the achievements for your league you have to have it in the embassy as "at war" 

we will have some fun with DBH - I will accept the request once my members have been notified

Jezebel said:

Gadheras said:

One of the most retarded and ridicilous features in the game. The need for invite someone for war and they have to accept for it to happen. Should be able to war anyone, anytime. Burn everything, leave them nothing.....

Well basically thats how it is, but to get the achievements for your league you have to have it in the embassy as "at war" 

we will have some fun with DBH - I will accept the request once my members have been notified

should just need the ability to decleare the war. The recieveing end can chose to fight or run and hide. Hey Plarium, did Russia send an invite before they annexed Crimea?

Beacon Massacre is just for spenders to hit only take a 10% loss in troops when they revive them. Sounds like a monopoly for Plarium to keep big armies around and get them to revive that 70% of that 10% loss. 

The tactical strategy of beacons and fortress is to keep assets in game for as long as possible while keeping you all spending. More of a scam not a war game.

The VIP scandal is just to keep the biggest spenders spending more.

I do not mind the player spending money. Without you there would be no games. What bothers me, however, is that the big ones can risk the work of others without risk.

We did not get out of the beacon massacre for no reason.

It is simply not fair.

Since the game is destroyed, we will speed it up a bit and now we will also participate in the Massacre. This will remove the normal players who spend some money from time to time, and then the rest can send themselves from their own big armies.

Because they will not risk anything. To self-love and only accustomed to conceal impotence with money.

I guess it will only take a few months until no league wants more Beacons.

Sorry for the Bad English. It's early in the morning and google is not really correct.

Cao

cat in the hat said:

Beacon Massacre is just for spenders to hit only take a 10% loss in troops when they revive them. Sounds like a monopoly for Plarium to keep big armies around and get them to revive that 70% of that 10% loss. 

The tactical strategy of beacons and fortress is to keep assets in game for as long as possible while keeping you all spending. More of a scam not a war game.

The VIP scandal is just to keep the biggest spenders spending more.

Events would have more value to them but the spending makes them worthless to normal players. Also funny how a league requires all league members to fund there hammer. So dumb people are.....

well actually if done right the losses are not that great so no need to revive them even with a softener on a beacon some of your troops return so if you lose 5 million on a softener during massacre you only lose 500k offense after the free revives and that's practically nothing

Gadheras said:

Jezebel said:

Gadheras said:

One of the most retarded and ridicilous features in the game. The need for invite someone for war and they have to accept for it to happen. Should be able to war anyone, anytime. Burn everything, leave them nothing.....

Well basically thats how it is, but to get the achievements for your league you have to have it in the embassy as "at war" 

we will have some fun with DBH - I will accept the request once my members have been notified

should just need the ability to decleare the war. The recieveing end can chose to fight or run and hide. Hey Plarium, did Russia send an invite before they annexed Crimea?

again this is done all the time but not in the embassy - leagues often declare other leagues as their PVP targets for tournaments if they deem the other league deserving :)

Die Blutige,

we used to accept your war requests, but you stopped defending.   

there wasnt much point to going to war with  you after that.

besides, the piddly amount of influence gained from wars and challenges are meaningless in the game. effort is better spent at beacons and fortresses

DJmoody..

.I think you didn't understand me there. We want to go to war with all the big leagues, which have been singing their own praise here all this time. Which brag with their hammers and exploit smaller leagues as buffer zone or cannon fodder. It is my opinion that all of you are incapable of winning a war. Your reputation and your power is only based on your Mega-Offs. Because most players are scared of you. We're not scared...

But you're scared of us and how we might show you up and that all your glory vanishes and that all the small leagues would see that all you are is a sham.

So just accept the war request and let's go. After all, Biohazard said you're a war league and you would accept any war. That is, no doubt, also the reason why Shin, Frenzie, Test and whatnot don't participate in this debate. They know all to well, that they would have to go to war or lose their face.

And they also know that they can't do it. You depend on maybe 30% active players. The rest is for the garbage can.

And because you know that, you wuss out.

I'm only saying this one more time...

We want a war with the Top100. Or at least with the Top20. Would be good enough for me. Show us what you really got...every single player in your leagues. Because that requires more, than just sending your coined armies against a beacon or a fortress.

Which bring me to you Ironappex... How do you think a war works? Everyone puts their defense somewhere so the other side can smash it? Where's the challenge in that? You have to earn your points. They don't just drop in your lap.

But as I said before..all this posturing is ridiculous. Brother...how is one supposed to take you guys serious in any way?

Regards Cao

So go crash beacons and risk your offense if it is that easy. I'm sorry you can't just FB a beacon for victory you will have to get a few players and make a coordinated, planned attack.

"None"

Which league are you? Do you know our league?

So far, we have deliberately kept out of the beacon massacre. Our beacon attacks were outside these senseless events. In this regard you are welcome to ask Fellowship. We paid for it accordingly. Nothing in life is free, so it should be here too (Game).

Ah, and to discuss about fireballs is idle.

At first I hated the fireballs and did not use them either. After I had to experience that a single player threw 100 FB (10EA per Attack) in one night on a single castle, I gave up my restraint.

Best regards

Angelika

djmoody said:

I think you are labouring under a some false pretenses.

First, far from being scared most people I talk to just don't care about the game anymore..

So our estimation of 30% active players in your league was correct? If I don't care about a game anymore I look for a new one...

Second the war and challenge mechanics are utterly broken. The points are ridiculously skewed to defending. Nothing can be proved by "winning" a war or challenge other than how far one side wants to stretch the broken mechanics and distort the result.

Asking everyone to have a "war" under broken mechanics to prove you are relevant just looks pretty desperate tbh.

Let me reply with these examples:

It's quite possible to win a war with offense-points. IF you know what your doing. That requires skill of course...

The game around castles is also completely broken. Raid mechanic is 1 for 1 losses no matter what strategy you employ (or a lot worse if attacking and the opponent has any kind of walls). And if you siege to make use of the size of your offence to even up the wall disadvantage, if the player is online and knows what he is doing he can catch your entire offence. I personally haven't seen any content around castles for a long time. So entering into a castle war with you really is of little to no interest.

Yes! That's the point. It's difficult. You have to be good to fight this way and you can't buy your victory and you can't fake it.

Presumably you lost all your defence getting smashed out of beacons by someone.

Well, since you think all that matters in war is defense, victory should be easy for you...

But all is not lost. Focus your energy on using your offence and smashing other people out of beacons (like your league used to when it was making a name for itself).

Yeah, we did make a name for ourself. Back in the day, when breaking beacons meant something. Destroying your own beacons with Destinys help or kicking out other leagues in the massacres proves what?

I'll ask if our guys want to "war" with you. Don't expect much if we do. We'll just press the button and pretty much do nothing about it, cause people just won't be interested. No one will care whether we win or lose as they will see it as pointless and broken.

And because it's so pointless and boring, you tried for the last weeks to find somebody to go to war with you, I guess? Oh, but you found at least one...

Looks like our ally gives you a run for your money. What was that about defenses win wars? How is that tactic working out for you?

We have our content worshiping Balur at the moment, so we have goals and objectives of our own to work towards. Keeping an area of the map at lvl 1 in Balur's hands is incredibly difficult. It really was a stretch goal. It's also never been done before. The number of leagues we have fought with must be 30+ by now, a good proportion of the active server. We'll see where we are a in a couple of months, after a couple of cycles of massacre. I think we'll have earned some respect if we manage it.

Sigh. How often did I hear that excuse? "We have other goals at the moment" - right. At times we fought several wars at once while taking beacons on the side. Down leveling a few lvl.2 beacons is no amazing feat you know?

I suggest you try and find some content too.

That's what we're trying. We OFFER you some new content. A chance to wake your members from their slumber and have some fun. To REALLY test the skills you have gained in the last years in this game. An actual challenge to prove your worth. But I guess you're not interested in that.