Easy and simple don't raid bots raid inactive castles in your area
use tricks to get more resources from a raid
improve resource production time
buy a few resource packs when offers are up and you need a few more resources.
Inactives owned? right.... lol... If someone is sitting on a inactive castle, it doesn't make it theirs. Raid them, get the resources, if you seen the same player been sitting on it for a good while, you can assume the target is fat. no need to send spies to give early warning. Players that cry and feel entitled to fifes as THEIRS, give them the middle finger and raid them.You quit. that is the only way to go about it. Just quit Buddy.
Inactives are owned. they have people owing them
people who feel entitled to them
OR you can fight for them, Coin like Most guys, and hopefully stay, for a while till you get broke, and you have creditors running you down
Dunno but for the regular players like me and my brother (both non-coiners) this is like a hit bellow the belt. If plarium wants to ruin his game and to lose players. YEAH keep it going that is the right direction :(I am not a coiner. You can still raid and siege the bots. Spying helps, finding inactive castles near you is better. Contrary to some I spy everything. Why? Feats of Valor has a reward for 10000 spy missions. Some players feel fiefs are owned by person siegeing them. However, only your own castle is owned, any other castle, settlement or hamlet is fair game.
Medivh said:
Dunno but for the regular players like me and my brother (both non-coiners) this is like a hit bellow the belt. If plarium wants to ruin his game and to lose players. YEAH keep it going that is the right direction :(
So if you can't benefit from something that is illegal and is exploiting the game, then Plarium is ruin your game?
TO be honest i do use bots i don't use them regularly or base my game play on them i just raid them from time to time to get a few extra resources but mostly i have all inactive castles that i can get good resources from added to my contacts so i just need to look up my contacts at which castles i haven't got 50k from this week and raid them, if you raid them correctly and know which ones get good resources they can be move beneficial than bots, Just do the legwork and find the inactive and add them to contacts.
As for sieges i never siege bots they are simply not worth it. find castles in your area that are not very active and seige them much better and not as many lost resources from other players attacking the bots you have sieged.@ gadheras
we mentioned this in another thread. it isn't about exploiting illegal activities. it is about lack of valuable content within gameplay. brothers are playing the game. "not anti social like me" they may even want to invite friends to the game as well. building the population of the game.
i don't understand attacking other players who have an issue with the game, just because it is not your issue. rather would it do more good to have a united front against the entire lack of gain through actual gameplay that exists through the current model?
sure the current model caters to about 500 coiners. and plarium can say "can't please everyone so why not just please the 500 worthy players".
by there numbers, not mine, 250 million potential customers created accounts on their game. these customers were looking for something. they did not find it. unlike them i made do with what existed, and a huge part of that was bot castles. 250 m unworthy players. and for those in the game who have made do with the current model, the message is you are who is wrong, not the model.
500>250,000,000johanrayne said:
@ gadheras
we mentioned this in another thread. it isn't about exploiting illegal activities. it is about lack of valuable content within gameplay. brothers are playing the game. "not anti social like me" they may even want to invite friends to the game as well. building the population of the game.
i don't understand attacking other players who have an issue with the game, just because it is not your issue. rather would it do more good to have a united front against the entire lack of gain through actual gameplay that exists through the current model?
sure the current model caters to about 500 coiners. and plarium can say "can't please everyone so why not just please the 500 worthy players".
by there numbers, not mine, 250 million potential customers created accounts on their game. these customers were looking for something. they did not find it. unlike them i made do with what existed, and a huge part of that was bot castles. 250 m unworthy players. and for those in the game who have made do with the current model, the message is you are who is wrong, not the model.
500>250,000,000
Its simple, bot castles is not intended content of this game. Its plariums fault it slipped so far it has. And lack of gameplay also Plariums problem to deal with. If players not happy about a game they usually find another.
That 250 million number is bullocks. Its like say steam got x million users and when you publish a game there, you get 250 million sales. A registered user is not the same as an active one. Just check the rankings and such in this game and you get an idea ahow many active players it got. Most just turn away from this game because its so heavy into pay to win, not about lack of content.
johanrayne said:
again i have seen the effects of gold farmers in other games, and i simply cannot see an effect in this one.
Say what?
You can buy resources shipped to your door daily for a week for a few bucks, have your warehouse filled daily. Not a problem?
Get extra scrolls not a problem?
Hire units to boost your results in tournaments not a problem?
Hire units to act as fooder taking becons not a problem?
+ other stuff....
and this is not a problem as long as you get your free resources... right?
geeze.
bots have had no negative effect on my play, i cannot see a difference in any play towards me due to players purchasing from gold farmers. the only negative effects in any play towards me are from plarium mtx and alts. unless the coiners with alts are also buying from gold farmers then there has been no negative effect in any play towards me due to the bots. since i have not seen any negative effects in any play towards me i thought that they were content from plarium to supplement resources.
buy resources, no effect, no difference in my game. plarium mtx does the same.
extra scrolls, no effect, no difference in my game. plarium mtx does the same.
attacked by 10m offense or more, no effect, no difference in my game. unless you are stating that the 150 to 200 of each legendary is being printed by gold farmers and sold to players that i thought were coiners. plarium mtx coiners that is.
i have no interest in beacons, no effect, no difference in my game.
10m defense or more on a castle, no effect, no difference in my game due to alts.
free resources? those resources cost me 3 hrs per day in the limited irl resources of time, focus, energy and effort. however they do give me a chance to play the game my way with as little human contact as possible.
the only difference is whether the money is spent on plarium or an outside source. a company should be the one to make money from their product. not hackers. that is the only argument.
a company should also offer value in their true product. all i'm saying.
a game of value is worthy of 10 to 15 usd a month subscription.
millions of potential spenders at that level of spending equal to a subscription, with current mtx model, compared to 100's that overpay now.
the money is out there. the valuable content is not.
"What you want from the game and what you get from the game is two different things. It is what it is". exactly.
Gadheras said:
johanrayne said:
a game of value is worthy of 10 to 15 usd a month subscription.
millions of potential spenders at that level of spending equal to a subscription, with current mtx model, compared to 100's that overpay now.
the money is out there. the valuable content is not.
"What you want from the game and what you get from the game is two different things. It is what it is". exactly.
This game is not worth a sub of 10-15 USD a month, maybe 5. Look at other mmo's out there that offer premium (sub) options and what you get for the cost. swtor, ESO, EVE, and others.
I would very much like a sub based option for Stormfall, but it will never happen, even though Plarium kinda made it sub based due to a certain item they introduced that you can only pay for with cash. The booster that add to your off/def. you just have to assume anyone use it, and if you don't yourself you at disadventage. I would pritty much claim that is a way to force players to spend money.
i stated that i would not pay a sub for this game as is. i agree it is not worth it. it doesn't need to become sub based, it just needs to become valuable enough for a larger player base to want to play it and be willing to spend 10 usd per month in mtx.
at 4 50/50's per month, that is a 40 dollar sub per month just for 1 item that favors heavy coiners. that by itself is a turnoff to regular people willing to pay subs.
how many players quit when they found out the only way to build their castle walls was through mtx. why play longer than when you reach that part of the tutorial. just quit.
It is puzzling to me that if Plarium objects to the bots so much, they just don't delete them? It's not like they're hard to spot? Email warning to the player that if they don't reply they will be deleted, then bin them?
Plarium put the bots in game. Who would make all them and just made them for everyone to collect resources from raiding? So Plarium downgraded how much resources are getting produced. This means they want to try to get people to spend to buy sketches to increase production. Its not worth $ to do this.
Also, dead castles are not worth raiding. Most are not high enough to get good raids from. Take away bots and most wont waste there time playing game.
Any player who dont spend money to help with development is looking at a huge disadvantage. Its not easy for them to research lost arts and keep upgrading buildings and still train troops. Most people know this attack the non coiners cause they chicken out to attack anyone else. Sad how people low enough to spend money on game attack others who dont spend.
cat in the hat said:
Plarium put the bots in game. Who would make all them and just made them for everyone to collect resources from raiding? So Plarium downgraded how much resources are getting produced. This means they want to try to get people to spend to buy sketches to increase production. Its not worth $ to do this.
You for real? lol..
Check this thread @ http://plarium.com/forum/en/stormfall-age-of-war/off-topic/topics/stop-sending-me-spam-messages-for-plarium-club-com-using-master/
These and others are the ones that put bots in the game.
its a fracking pvp game you are playing. If someone want to hit and plunder you daily and use you as their personal farm, well that is part of the game. Accept it or find something else to play.
Lady Nerium KT-S2 said:
It is puzzling to me that if Plarium objects to the bots so much, they just don't delete them? It's not like they're hard to spot? Email warning to the player that if they don't reply they will be deleted, then bin them?
When you see them on the map, it's really not hard to guess what they are. However, there's always a chance that a real player can be affected. Our Support Team uses several methods to check the suspicious accounts and identify if they're bots or not.
But nobody from Plarium is checking the map to spot bots. Our Support Team only reacts on tickets sent by players. That's why we ask our players to report them to Support where the necessary measures will be taken.
As for the idea with email, not everyone reads emails from us. Many players would consider such mails as spam. Moreover, for some players our letters are actually filtered by their email provider. So there's a great risk to affect regular players.
Right now our Support doesn't plan to change the workflow with violation reports. Players report - they check and react.You quit. that is the only way to go about it. Just quit Buddy.
Inactives are owned. they have people owing them
people who feel entitled to them
OR you can fight for them, Coin like Most guys, and hopefully stay, for a while till you get broke, and you have creditors running you down
Resources are plentiful in the game since so many people are quitting. BEFORE bots appeared in the game I spent hours on the map scouting for inactive castles to raid. It takes time but go to the map and search around your castle & don't be afraid to go than a 5 minute spy mission. When you find an inactive that is good add it to your contact list. You will have unlimited resources and when you are in a hurry to hit a couple quick raids then use the bots. I find most bot lines a pain, people get possessive and put defense troops in them after you spy to purposely kill your thieves. Honestly more trouble than they are worth. Everyone wants those high level bot lines, personally I need food more than anything else so those are worthless to me.I send spy missions two or three hours out at times. The bot fields can be suicidal. I am one of the few that spy each time first. I cannot afford to lose thieves. The local castleas are mostly under level thirty so the 10 raid per day limitation is extremely restictive, so I must spend several hours each day spying and raiding. Without bots that time will double. However, I personnlay do not encourage keeping bot fields they are another place greedy people can set PVP traps.
