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Jun 10, 2016, 09:2106/10/16
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About mantra called Balance

Too many answers concluded with story about balance in this game. Is it really truth?


To have balance

everybody should have possibility to have huge army,

not only coiners,

or

none of us could have chance to produce huge army,

including coiners.

Balance between coiners and non coiners should be by buying time.


For example, my 10 hours coiners should buy for 1 min. Let say that my hour worth 5$. So what I can produce for 10 hours he can buy for 50$, or vice versa. For 50$ coiner could buy 8250 sapps, or aprox. 100 Dragons (all just buy regular conditions).

That means that I have to have chance to produce 100 Dragons (or in total units which worth 100 Dragons) to be equal with him.

In your game for 10 hours I can produce about 5 Dragons in total (count all four slots for producing).

That is unbalance about what I'm talking.

And, also every ugly adjective belongs to your definition of balance, because in your balance coiners easily can make 20x more than non coiners.

You made your game, on your way, with your goal towards human vanity, and very easily feed your real bank.

All of last is acceptable for me, sheep are used for shearing.

What isn't acceptable? Your overworked explanations about game balance.

Not all of us are sheep.

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Jun 10, 2016, 11:1806/10/16
04/10/15
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my thought is that coiners would have even a huger army...got by less time and got spending money

i would like also have time of building decreased but i think is not to have a huge army but yes to participate in pvps and battlegrounds more time that i do. i have to wait to have defense for a tournament to get 500 points and get 20 eldrich gollem. its desesperating to have to wait actually my queues empty arround 8 - 10 months

but it is what there are on game and i must adapt my play

Regards
Jun 10, 2016, 11:2906/10/16
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Juglar del Viento said:


my thought is that coiners would have even a huger army...got by less time and got spending money

i would like also have time of building decreased but i think is not to have a huge army but yes to participate in pvps and battlegrounds more time that i do. i have to wait to have defense for a tournament to get 500 points and get 20 eldrich gollem. its desesperating to have to wait actually my queues empty arround 8 - 10 months

but it is what there are on game and i must adapt my play

Regards

Coiners will ALWAYS have bigger and more.  Level the field so players can bounce back faster would work towards increase ballance and level the field.
Jun 10, 2016, 12:0806/10/16
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My point isn't any kind of suggestion about production speed.

I'm trying to remove answers about balanced game.

Game isn't balanced.

There are several ways how game could be balanced, but for that there is a post in suggestion track.

On this post I want to discuss about balance, and I will be happy if anyone (any of mods, too) can explained how game is balanced (hundred times I heard that as some final answer about many problems in the game) in the context of my original post.
Jun 13, 2016, 08:2306/13/16
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I appreciate your attention to our game balance. However, please keep in mind that our game gives an opportunity to get more Units faster, if you use Sapphires. It doesn't mean that it is unbalanced. Balance is a more complicated thing which consists of hundreds if not thousands aspects connected to each game feature,k Item, Unit, players' interaction, etc. 

Each game feature is considered, explained, described in details with all possible limits, interactions, costs, etc. We have several departments which are working on a game balance. I understand that when you're reading this word, you imagine something like scales where you put two players: one who buys Sapphires, and one who doesn't. And you thing that the scales should be in balance. However, it's not the same game balance which I am talking about. 

I do understand that it's hard to compete with players who buy Sapphires if you don't. And if you do buy some Sapphires, it's hard to compete with players, who buy many of them. It's one of the basic game features. You can have a huge army, but you will need either Sapphires or time + strategy. Moreover, you can play in group, unite with other players against a stronger enemy, etc.

I am always glad to pass your suggestions further, but only if they fit our game balance (which may differ for different game features). Even your bravest ideas have a chance to be implemented, but sometimes good ideas are declined just because our game is not adjusted for such changes. 

I hope I could clarify this situation for you 

Jun 13, 2016, 21:3806/13/16
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Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


I appreciate your attention to our game balance. However, please keep in mind that our game gives an opportunity to get more Units faster, if you use Sapphires. 

as usual, you have missed the point entirely.    there is no balance between coiners and non coiners. your answer is to become a coiner.



how is that helpful?  arent you embarrased to be making posts like this?  you are never helpful and either totally misunderstand what is being said or you just find some way to spin the idea of spending money to us.


 surely you realize how often you repeat the idea that buying saphires will fix things.



Jun 20, 2016, 14:5406/20/16
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big buyer or Plarium castle?  image few days ago



how every little thing unbalances the game, by plarium bgs not changed  but the more importantly they are not the main plot of the game, ah no?

the important thing now is the hero, as if these objects take them only paying


few examples 10-40% when for years you expect for a stupid Crystal 10-20%

maybe you forgot to these achievements? 


another demonstration of how the game is balanced  click click click


when you use fireball against suspected castles 

and after the siege to prove that the troops were there


everything that you say are just wonderful stories, only see the plarium strategy

This game is a fake

Jun 20, 2016, 16:1006/20/16
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Lord JUMY,

more experienced players (like myself) can't notice any change in BG alghoritm. Furthermore, there are old posts explaining that fireballs damage is mostly limited to castle walls and skins. I'm sure that you'll change opinion after discovering Wyverns and Dragons.
Jun 20, 2016, 16:5506/20/16
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Nemanja said:


Lord JUMY,

more experienced players (like myself) can't notice any change in BG alghoritm. Furthermore, there are old posts explaining that fireballs damage is mostly limited to castle walls and skins. I'm sure that you'll change opinion after discovering Wyverns and Dragons.

sorry for your position Lord Mod. i have done all wall lv5 and i have done all lost arts, in this screen you see a lv1 wall and when i receive fb lose at least 5 time this

greats story always :) plarium team and his castle
Jun 21, 2016, 08:0306/21/16
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Inaginni said:


I'm sorry, but this is definitely wrong. I have played for coming on two years now and bgs have been changed multiple times. Perhaps you are talking about the BG algorithm changing in the last 1-2 months?

Also, fireballs ignore castle defense and deal damage 1 to 1. There's a post floating around out there about that and I'll edit that in, or reply to this thread if a few others reply first, if I find it.

Re battlegrounds only thing that has changed is glitch fix and since fix everyone is talking about conspiracy and changes.

Jun 21, 2016, 12:0006/21/16
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Vladimir Stojanovic said:


Inaginni said:


I'm sorry, but this is definitely wrong. I have played for coming on two years now and bgs have been changed multiple times. Perhaps you are talking about the BG algorithm changing in the last 1-2 months?

Also, fireballs ignore castle defense and deal damage 1 to 1. There's a post floating around out there about that and I'll edit that in, or reply to this thread if a few others reply first, if I find it.

Re battlegrounds only thing that has changed is glitch fix and since fix everyone is talking about conspiracy and changes.

Wrong. Search through forum and you will find right answer.

We have a problem with both of you latest mods. You came here and started to implement some ugly rule, and at same time we could here so many wrong answers, and too many about you.

From mods we expect help, and correct information. Who you are and who you were is unimportant for us.

We need forum to change our experience and fillings. If you are correct no one will mention you, and in that case e will never break amazing rule.

Contrary, we can't speak what we need and all of this become useless.
Jun 22, 2016, 12:2606/22/16
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Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


Inaginni said:



However, I should note that this tax only appears for certain players. 

I can ensure you that Battlegrounds work equally for all players. There are no exceptions. Different players use different strategies, that's the only difference. Sometimes it's about planning and calculations, sometimes it's about luck.

But all players are equal on Battlegrounds.

More than likely that is correct, although perhaps a bit more involved. I was referencing to the more general idea on the forum that battlegrounds have taxes for the player. This is something many players in the KoK family have noticed and yet others haven't been affected by this tax, so more than likely it only appears for certain strategies.

I'd like to post my ideas, but I don't want to lead anyone astray since my ideas are not 100% verified. So I'll just leave it at "there seems to be a method that still gives a net positive in bgs."

Jun 22, 2016, 12:3306/22/16
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Gadheras said:

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:


Drogar61 said:


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When you get posts and even threads deleted that doesn't break any rules acording to your rule page... and without any actual comment on WHY they got deleted/removed. You can start to wonder what going on, also, we are not allowed to raise discussion around it, because then we fall into the whole "you are not allowed to discuss moderators actions" and you end up get banned. So maybe its just better to not post anything, in the end. The rules should apply both to the users and the ones that should upheld them no?

I know this thread has kinda gotten derailed from the original topic, but I was wondering, Alyona, if you would consider editing the posts instead of deleting them. If the entirety of the post is against the rules then you could edit it to say so, removing all the original content. That way we wouldn't be as confused when we return to certain threads and see parts of a conversation, such as a mod seemingly talking to himself.
Jun 22, 2016, 20:1606/22/16
Jun 22, 2016, 21:32(edited)
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until mod and plarium team play with 200 different names you may never have a balanced game, it's all fake

Jun 22, 2016, 22:3806/22/16
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Lord JUMY, 

inappropriate language is violation of Forum rules. This is your second deleted post today.

Hereby, you're warned to obey Forum rules. 
Jun 23, 2016, 00:4006/23/16
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Alyona, only what I care is talk about game. I never said ugly word. Sharp yes, but not ugly. And, maybe I didn't notice others, only me wrote public apology for mistake. Yes people can make mistake, that is normal.

What isn't normal is some behavior of Plarium advocates, but you took right from us to comment that, so no comment.

But, not all of your (plural) posts have right to be protected. Simple, some of your posts make direct damage to people who asked for help, and such posts can't be protected of comments, or almost everything on this forum will become useless.

You and me agree about possibility of mistake but I never saw correction from your side when we proved that you're wrong.

Also, when you act as player, not as mod, than you can be commented or some animals will have too much right on this farm.

Mod job is to keep forum clean and under rules, not to concludes every our conversation, and very often on very ugly and provocative way.

For such attempts stick rule shouldn't be used.

Some of you try to be in charge on this forum. That is wrong, too, and cause of many ugly threads, concluded with stick.

Maybe this help 

Jun 23, 2016, 07:3706/23/16
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Drogar61 said:


Alyona, only what I care is talk about game. I never said ugly word. Sharp yes, but not ugly. And, maybe I didn't notice others, only me wrote public apology for mistake. Yes people can make mistake, that is normal.

What isn't normal is some behavior of Plarium advocates, but you took right from us to comment that, so no comment.

But, not all of your (plural) posts have right to be protected. Simple, some of your posts make direct damage to people who asked for help, and such posts can't be protected of comments, or almost everything on this forum will become useless.

You and me agree about possibility of mistake but I never saw correction from your side when we proved that you're wrong.

Also, when you act as player, not as mod, than you can be commented or some animals will have too much right on this farm.

Mod job is to keep forum clean and under rules, not to concludes every our conversation, and very often on very ugly and provocative way.

For such attempts stick rule shouldn't be used.

Some of you try to be in charge on this forum. That is wrong, too, and cause of many ugly threads, concluded with stick.

Maybe this help 

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Jun 23, 2016, 09:5306/23/16
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Nemanja said:

jumy said:


until mod and plarium team team play with 200 different names you may never have a balanced game, it's all fake

Lord JUMY,

it is impossible to play Stormfall with 200 alts. 
lol...you havent met Lord Maccanmoore.
Jun 23, 2016, 09:5506/23/16
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it boggles my mind that the mods comment on EVERY THREAD, whether their information is correct or not.
Jun 23, 2016, 20:1206/23/16
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IronApex Turok said:

i cant find my post in the suggestions section about how to make the mods more relevant.
Check deleted posts 
Jun 24, 2016, 08:3206/24/16
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