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Odds? Infinity? At just 0.02% deception is the name of Plarium's game

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Mar 11, 2025, 15:0403/11/25
11/27/21
133

Odds? Infinity? At just 0.02% deception is the name of Plarium's game

Remember the days of the vault blitz?  After spending 35 hard earned fortune keys a player was GUARANTEED to earn 400 acoins.  Instead of focusing on a better overall game experience in an effort to achieve higher profits, Plarium has clearly decided that illusion and deception is now the much easier route, quick and dirty, to get more of our hard earned $$$.  

What do event crate odds (below) of 0.02% at a cost of 300 acoins per attempt really mean?  0.02% is only a 1 in 5000 chance!  With 30 possible rewards in the crate does anyone actually think they're getting the weapon in the first 29 attempts???  30 x 300 = 9000 acoins! 

Now someone at Plarium has dreamt up 'infinity'.  Did anyone see a big announcement?  Of course not.  Instead of eliminating options during event crate redemption, ALL 'unlimited' rewards will remain, thereby ensuring your odds NEVER increase as you redeem your hard earned tokens or acoins.  The odds (below) are just 0.22% in getting the ability implant on any single turn.  So no, your odds are not 1 in 12 as it may appear at first glance, FAR from it.  Even with an infinite amount of redemptions you may NEVER receive the ability implant.

With this amount of deception does anyone actually believe that event crate rewards are random.....


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Mar 12, 2025, 08:5403/12/25
12/19/23
82

At least it's *slightly* cheaper now by like 200 acoins

Mar 12, 2025, 12:2603/12/25
Mar 12, 2025, 13:00(edited)
11/27/21
133

Again today, yet another crate with a pathetic 1 in 5000 chance.  120 acoins gets you 1 fortune key!!!  What a joke!


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Mar 12, 2025, 18:5303/12/25
03/01/15
27

friend if you don't know it yet you have to open them all first, finally the last one is the winning one, the 0.001% is this... by now everyone knows, MECH ARENA is everything planned,,, there is nothing to chance, even your battles are already destined.....like everything else here luck and skill don't exist friend.

Mar 13, 2025, 20:5703/13/25
02/18/25
6

This has to be the best written out post. 

Mar 14, 2025, 22:0003/14/25
11/27/21
133

99.98% chance of NOT getting the weapon.......now let that sink in.

CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
Mar 17, 2025, 12:5203/17/25
02/10/23
2761
Stanley

99.98% chance of NOT getting the weapon.......now let that sink in.

Hello! Such odds were set as the main Prize is usually something valuable, so the process of acquiring it must be challenging. Still, we always leave some place for luck, and participants have a tiny chance to get the Award faster and easier!

Mar 17, 2025, 17:5903/17/25
01/30/24
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CrystalDrew

Hello! Such odds were set as the main Prize is usually something valuable, so the process of acquiring it must be challenging. Still, we always leave some place for luck, and participants have a tiny chance to get the Award faster and easier!

Personally, I think it's fine that you occasionally have these odds-based events and the main prize has a very low chance of being acquired. With a fixed upper limit of spins, you can get the main prize (as long as you have enough in-game funds for it and are prepared to use them). 

However, the OP brought up the issue of recent "infinite" availability of the low-value items. Anybody who reads between the lines will know immediately not to attempt it at all, because presumably all low-value items will remain, meaning there is no fixed upper limit of spins. I fear the relatively new players will suffer more with this "infinity" kind of event.. people who haven't familiarized themselves with the mechanics of such events. That feels unfair to them, so it's worth reconsidering this idea.

Mar 17, 2025, 18:0803/17/25
03/16/23
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CrystalDrew

Hello! Such odds were set as the main Prize is usually something valuable, so the process of acquiring it must be challenging. Still, we always leave some place for luck, and participants have a tiny chance to get the Award faster and easier!

Luck does not exist. But being fortunate does exist. No one is fortunate in this game, except players who spend a lot. 

Mar 18, 2025, 01:5603/18/25
Mar 18, 2025, 01:56(edited)
12/19/23
82
CrystalDrew

Hello! Such odds were set as the main Prize is usually something valuable, so the process of acquiring it must be challenging. Still, we always leave some place for luck, and participants have a tiny chance to get the Award faster and easier!

Seriously though, your low chances are like 0.00001 percent. For us, our average low chances are somewhere between 5-10 percent. So what you guys are doing is making the people who don't do maths waste their a-coins. I spend idk how many credits on the gatecrasher and chimaera event and I THOUGHT I counted right but I ended up not having enough for the last 2 prizes. Chimaera and gatecrasher... Make it easier on the not so nerdy people. Add something that helps you count the amount of rewards in the crate.

Mar 18, 2025, 11:0603/18/25
03/01/15
27

Maybe you are forgetting something. This system only benefits those who CAN spend and open the boxes they want, YOU including me, common mortals, will have the chance to win 1 time a year, after opening 10,000 boxes. REMEMBER this is mainly a game where you HAVE TO PAY, there is no luck here. SPEND A MOUNTAIN OF EUROS TO GET TOKENS AND WIN AFTER HAVING SPENT AT LEAST 1OO--200 EUROS,,, heheheeh ... think guys, NOTHING IS FREE HERE.. and thank the beginners who enter, play for 2 days, and get excited, because helped by the AI, to win, and spend and spend,, to then run aground after a few months on a dry beach full of disappointment, with the problem of explaining to their parents, where they spent 10,000 euros in a few months, without having anything ... WHOEVER WANTS THAT ITEM WILL SPEND, BLINDED BY THE ILLUSION OF BECOMING STRONGER......in vain because the climb will be increasingly expensive. good luck

May 30, 2025, 12:0405/30/25
11/27/21
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Going on right now. 0.01% chance of getting Vox.  That's 1 in 10,000!!!!  In other words, 99.99% chance of NOT getting Vox.  Can you say DECEPTION!

May 30, 2025, 12:4405/30/25
12/19/22
203
CrystalDrew

Hello! Such odds were set as the main Prize is usually something valuable, so the process of acquiring it must be challenging. Still, we always leave some place for luck, and participants have a tiny chance to get the Award faster and easier!

I don't have a problem with the starting percentage.  None at all.  My problem is with how that percentage is affected by rolls eliminating other options.  Take a look at how itty bitty your chances of getting the top prize after eliminating all but 5 of the 30-60 initial selections.  It'll still be below 1%.

May 30, 2025, 14:2605/30/25
03/30/19
36

I realized this right away, my priority is not the events, I just play, the events are programmed, the winnings are already defined, there is no randomness, basically you always have to open all the boxes. There is no other possibility eheheh, as the games are programmed.

May 30, 2025, 21:3705/30/25
11/27/21
133
GothIxkin

I don't have a problem with the starting percentage.  None at all.  My problem is with how that percentage is affected by rolls eliminating other options.  Take a look at how itty bitty your chances of getting the top prize after eliminating all but 5 of the 30-60 initial selections.  It'll still be below 1%.

And that only works if the odds of the pilot are allowed to increase after eliminating other options.  Given the amount of deception Plarium chooses to administer, it's reasonable to assume the odds only increase on the other options while the 1 in 10,000 is maintained on the pilot.

Jun 9, 2025, 13:2006/09/25
11/27/21
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Plarium is at it again with more infinity.  95.9% chance of NOT getting the implant.  No matter how many acoins you spend Plarium has made sure your odds will NEVER increase. Now that's some fine snake oil there.

CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
Jun 10, 2025, 14:4306/10/25
02/10/23
2761
Stanley


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Plarium is at it again with more infinity.  95.9% chance of NOT getting the implant.  No matter how many acoins you spend Plarium has made sure your odds will NEVER increase. Now that's some fine snake oil there.

Hello! Giving it a try is pretty cheap though 😉

Don't forget that if you consider such an Event unworthy of trying, you can just skip it!

Jun 11, 2025, 01:1406/11/25
11/27/21
133

This is about deception.  A game that Plarium excels at.

CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
Jun 11, 2025, 11:3506/11/25
02/10/23
2761
Stanley

This is about deception.  A game that Plarium excels at.

🤔🤔

Jun 11, 2025, 12:3506/11/25
12/19/22
203
CrystalDrew

Hello! Giving it a try is pretty cheap though 😉

Don't forget that if you consider such an Event unworthy of trying, you can just skip it!

I don't see anything cheap about this.  Especially considering how hard it can be to gain A-Coins.

Here is what I would want to know.  What is the maximum number of attempts you would have to make in order to guarentee you get the top prize?  I've rolled enough 20-sided dice in my day to know that just because I have a 5% chance of rolling a 20, doesn't mean I'm guarenteed to get it within 20 rolls.  Because I've actually tracked this over a thousand rolls before, I can tell you that there have been several times where its taken me more than 100 rolls to get a 20 to appear.  

So, again, what's the longest its taken anyone to get this top prize?  How many spins?   

Jun 11, 2025, 12:4606/11/25
Jun 11, 2025, 15:51(edited)
11/27/21
133

Which is exactly why Plarium dreamt up infinity.  Your odds NEVER increase no matter how many times you try! An infinite amount of attempts and the odds are 95.9% against you EVERY time.  The only thing cheap about it is the rewards.