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Oct 24, 2021, 10:0110/24/21
05/02/20
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small players also need some fun

@ Playrium ---- you already realize that all cities below level 35 are hardly involved in battles !? Where should you attack? The points required in the contests are therefore utopian ----- especially when you consider the ridiculous rewards that you can get. Gathering resources and killing intruders and ghosts won't get you very far. And - no thanks - I don't want to suddenly have to go up from level 33 to level 40. I'll never achieve that anyway, because I just can't afford to put so much money into the game every month to get the points I need in the events! So stagnation is the order of the day ---- fun in the game looks different ---- growing? No !!!!! I wanted fun, no stress (and only dry bread at home).

Do you really think it's fun to keep building troops and killing intruders for breadcrumbs? All events are only playable for players with billions of troops and complete research.

Even in the clan battles a small clan cannot do anything, because intruders are in short supply and in the fortress defense you are a cheap supplier of splinters for all large enemy clans in the kingdom!

My idea for that? ------ * Give the big players their own kingdoms !!!!!!!!!!

* changes the clan battle rules again so that you can go to collect resources.

* Adjusts the points for gaining influence in the clan and kingdom battles --- you have extremely high costs here with great disadvantages for the future and you get almost no points for it

* Holmgang, towers, fortress defense ---- even small KLans / players would like to play something like that

* How about tasks that only certain leagues can do?

* How about a map to be discovered and conquered during the event? Maybe with tasks like killing so-and-so many AI opponents, collecting x amount of a resource, building outposts and - of course --- conquering city XY ---- so fights for our great warriors ----- maybe Special event for Halloween? Christmas ? Easter? Summer?

------ Vikings War of Clans was once a great game with many options for all players ---- is the patient already dead? Or can you revive him? Just bigger and bigger - even more troops - even more attack power --- even more attackers in the attacks ........ that doesn't make it any better in the long run !!!!

The distance from the beginner to the combat-ready level 40 account has become too great and the fun of the game until you get there is in fact no longer available!

In the long run you will not have any offspring !!!

@ Playrium ---- euch ist schon klar, dass alle Städte unter Level 35 kaum noch an Kämpfen beteiligt sind !?  Wo sollte man auch angreifen ? Die geforderten Punkte in den Wettstreits sind also utopisch ----- besonders wenn man die läppischen Belohnungen betrachtet , die man bekommen kann .  Mit Ressourcen sammeln und Eindringlinge und Geister töten kommt man da nicht weit.  Und -- Nein Danke -- ich möchte nicht schlagartig von Level 33 auf Level 40 hoch gehen müssen . Das werde ich sowieso nie erreichen , weil ich mir eingfach nicht leisten kann so viel Geld jeden Monat in das Spiel zu stecken, um in den Events die benötigten Punkte zu liefern! Es ist also Stagnation angesagt ---- Spass am Spiel sieht anders aus ---- Wachsen ?  Nein !!!!!   ich wollte Spass keinen Stress ( und nur trocken Brot zu hause) .

Haltet ihr es wirklich für Spass ständig nur Truppen bauen und Eindringlinge töten für Brotkrumen? Sämtliche Events sind nur noch für Spieler mit Milliarden Truppen und Vollständiger Forschung spielbar. 

Selbst in den Klanschlachten kann ein kleiner Klan nichts tun, denn Eindringlinge sind Mangelware und in der Festungsverteidigung ist man billiger Lieferant für Splitter für alle großen Gegnerklans im Königreich ! 

Meine Idee dazu ?  ------ * Gebt doch den großen Spielern ihre eigenen Königreiche !!!!!!!!!!   

* ändert die Klanschlachtregeln wieder so, dass man Ressourcen sammeln gehn kann.

*Passt die Punkte für Einflußgewinn in den Klan - und Königreichschlachten an --- man hat hier extrem hohe Kosten mit großen Nachteilen für die Zukunft und erhält dafür fast keine Punkte 

* Holmgang, Türme , Festungsverteidigung ---- auch kleine KLans / Spieler würden soetwas gerne spielen 

* Wie wäre es mit Aufgaben , die nur Spielr bestimmter Ligen erfüllen können ?

* Wie wäre eine Karte , die während des Events entdeckt und erobert werden soll ? Vielleicht mit Aufgaben wie tötet so-und-so viele KI-Gegner ,  sammelt x Menge einer Ressource , baut Vorposten und -- selbstverständlich --- Erobere Stadt XY ---- also Kämpfe für unsre großen Krieger ----- vieleicht ein Speziel-Event zu Halloween ? Weihnachten ? Ostern? Sommer? 

------ Vikings War of Clans war einmal ein tolles Spiel mit vielen Möglichkeiten für alle Spieler ---- ist der Patient bereits tot ? Oder könnt ihr ihn wiederbeleben ? Nur immer größer -- noch mehr Truppen -- noch mehr Angriffskraft --- noch mehr Angreiferzahl in den Attacken ........   das macht es auf Dauer nicht besser!!!! 

Der Abstand vom Anfänger zum kampffähigen Level 40 Account ist zu groß geworden und der Spielspass bis man dort hin gelangt , den gibt es faktisch gar nicht mehr ! 

Auf lange Sicht wird euch der Nachwuchs ausbleiben !!!

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Oct 24, 2021, 13:5010/24/21
Oct 24, 2021, 14:09(edited)
06/21/17
1303

You make a good point.

I have been playing the game for a long time, continuing even after I discovered how deceptive it is.

Now even for what entertainment I get from it, it is becoming an even more waste of time than it was.

Small clans can not get into CvC any longer.  Of course you could by your way into them, but to what point ?  A draw against the top end players with no chance of winning.?Clan events similar, but still worthless.The kingdom battles are available, but of little consequence.

Had we not got one of the two top places,there would have been scant ,or no reward, as even the low levels are set too high.

Of course ,as you say, because the demand is so high, the reward tiles are unavailable,and the invaders or ghosts hoovered up.

I had thought myself of special kingdoms for professional players, it's not a new idea, and if all the small players quit, which is probably what they want, there will be no need for kingdoms for big players.

By the way at level 33, you are not a small player,so if you are unhappy ,what does that indicate ?

Oct 24, 2021, 18:2710/24/21
01/11/17
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Oct 24, 2021, 18:4510/24/21
Nov 11, 2021, 16:30(edited)
04/06/18
575

I have a lot of sympathy with what is said in this thread but it is too pessimistic and too narrow in its view of what someone who plays the game rather than coming here to shop can do.

For one thing the game becomes altogether more rewarding if those in a kingdom co-operate.  But that is a hard thing to achieve.  It calls for diplomacy and a lot of effort.  These are skills independant of influence numbers.  plarium could enhance this aspect of the game by introducing copy paste, a built in translator and/or Viking: War of Clans sites available from clan hosting sites with helpful tools.  Clans are the best part of the game but are rudimentary at present.

Secondly far from CvC being difficult for small clans if you look at the 100 clans with the best CvC record you will find they are nearly all very small.  In fact I rather think the top five have to work hard to keep their level low to maintain their extraordinary 100% records.  So guys, work out how they do it and emulate their feats.

Thirdly a small player can do a certain amount to twist the tail of even the biggest enemy.  This is an aspect of the game I particularly enjoy. This very week I have managed three coups against trillion plus players (I am 90 billion or so) and each of those was satisfying enough to merit opening a bottle of vinho tinto good enough to be saved for special occasions.  

The idea of creating some arena specifically for smaller players is a good one.  The shoppers have Helheim and Holmgang, somewhere for individuals and clans under, say, 500 billion and, perhaps, another arena for beginners, say under 5 billion, would be an asset to the game.  To save on developers/programmers time perhaps they could be very similar to Helheim or Holmgang.  Bandwidth needs would surely be much less with smaller individuals/clans taking part.

plarium being as blinkered as it is I will not be holding my breathe for any developments of this kind though.


Oct 24, 2021, 23:1010/24/21
06/21/17
1303

First of all. small doesn't mean the same thing to everyone, there is small in numbers and small in influence.

If the clan is less than 1,000,000,000 its too small, however many are in the clan, to make much impact.

I  know how the much critizied Helheim works and I do not see how introducing something similar would help, they could just restore it as it was for everyone.

As to Holmgang ,I am not familiar enough with how it works to give an unbiased opinion, but this has had enough blow back from those that do, and if a tamer version worked the same , it strikes me that the same situation would reoccur  where the sharks come and eat up all the food.

Now it's  even difficult to find level 1 ghosts to banish.

Nov 26, 2021, 00:1711/26/21
09/19/20
85

Jot is the worst example as there's only one and it's full of level 40 towns with billions of troops. Pointless for smaller players now.

Jot needs multiple instances with high influence players excluded from some instances, or 1 instance per league.

Dec 23, 2021, 15:3912/23/21
04/02/18
2

 I believe this game is indeed becomming more and more a wallet game   ppl are buying loads of things to grow and then dominate the game  leaving less than crumbs for those that simply cannot afford to spend  that kind of money    its no longer a game of skills    its just a matter of money now.

I also believe russian players are favourit to plarium    why does competition always start in th middle of the night for us westerns       same wit special invaders like snowkings and lost gifts    They spawn only ater 90 mins from start which gives other players a big advantage    have been trying to find one the whole day    and each time before they appeared in the event window they were allready killed by others ??????????


Dec 24, 2021, 10:2012/24/21
04/06/18
575

Beo, you must refresh for the snowikings to appear.  If you leave the game running without exiting they won't show up.  You might periodically look at "Invaders Ghosts and Bonuses".  When the snowikings appear it is time to refresh.

Dec 28, 2021, 01:2012/28/21
Dec 28, 2021, 01:21(edited)
01/31/18
342

If you play on a pc, it's not just about refreshing, just like other invaders there is a lag in the system, so the special holiday invaders are often already taken by players on other platforms.

This is a continual annoyance, especially when they can make invaders and ghosts disappear exactly on time, but cannot make them appear exactly on time.

Also why can't they make 'out of time mines' disappear immediately ,so when using manual global search, we don't waste time by having to click on and off when we find it's times spent?

Jan 11, 2022, 04:4401/11/22
06/25/17
1

Now the small players do not have any opportunity to grow and the middle ones have become bait for the big ones. A clan with 30 players of various levels, has the same influence as a clan with 13 players of level 40, they play the same league but will never have a chance to win any kingdom or clan event. There are many who also spend money, not astronomical figures, but among all a lot of money. The day they get tired of playing because everything is lost, Plarium will realize that it is not worth making a game only for those who spend astronomical figures, they need us to have fun, among the greats they do not fight, only in jotun they fight among themselves for the throne, in other events they fight against smaller ones than we who keep their fun. I started playing many years ago, then there was an opportunity for everyone, but now the updates are only aimed at benefiting the big ones and eating the small and medium ones. 

Jan 11, 2022, 18:1901/11/22
09/19/20
85

The other problem with the new changes is that they also adversely influence cvc by attacking seiges for a handful of shards and spoiling the last decent event for smaller players and clans.

During cvc the only people who should be able to attack your seige is your opponents. Even their allies shouldn't be allowed to join, otherwise what's the point of calling it clan vs clan?