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emyl80

Dec 9, 2017, 19:0512/09/17

02/19/15

question about yelding

Hello

I also have a question about this game. I sent a farmer a fixed amount of troops accompanied by a hero on a silver mine just to see how much time they collect 100k of resources. then I resubmitted this time with the activated bonus of collecting resources on me 50% higher. the problem is that at the first attempt the time was 30 minutes and the second for 27 minutes. so 50% of 30 minutes makes 27?

thanks in advance for the answers

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blazebo

Dec 9, 2017, 20:3912/09/17

04/07/17

1350

If your hero already has a lot of hero skill on resource yielding bonus then you wont see a lot of difference because they already might have a lot of bonus ... so try it without the hero ...

xyz

Dec 10, 2017, 20:4112/10/17

06/21/17

1303

I still cannot figure out the maths behind this.

Surely it shouldn't matter with or without the hero, you ought to be able to see more than 3 minutes when 75 % yield boost is applied

blazebo

Dec 10, 2017, 23:4912/10/17

Dec 10, 2017, 23:59(edited)

04/07/17

1350

First he said 50% not 75% ... anyways like I said I've done it and when your hero gets about 265% yield bonus from knowledge, hero skill and equipment an extra 50% is not that much ... When I tested it it took 88% of the time with hero than it usually takes when I used a 50% resource yield speed up where as with my troops without hero which had 66% bonus from knowledge it then took 76% of the time when I used a 50% resource yield speed up. From what OP posted it looks pretty similar showing 90% (and when I did mine I calculated to the seconds). You have to consider that there is already some yield speedups going on besides the specific boost you start at 50% or whatever % ...

xyz

Dec 11, 2017, 01:4112/11/17

06/21/17

1303

Thanks , after I posted I realised he had put 50% but decided to leave it because,

#A. I've never used this boost, and its the same point.

I only get about 3 minutes difference, so had previously thought myself that there wasn't very much reduction in yield time as a result of using a speed up, and couldn't reconcile the maths.

Wondered how they worked it out ,or if it was it another bad use of language that misleads players

#B partly for interest, and this post, and because I was using a speed up anyway.

I had almost done a complete re test using 75% but didn't want to waste time, or another speed up, just to do the test without hero.

I did find without the hero that the yield time is significantly more, but don't have the equivalent time with the speedup.

Deleted

Dec 11, 2017, 23:0312/11/17

Those yielding boost are great when you are sending out 10 non-hero farming marches. Usually a minute or so before the global events end, I send out my 11 marches to all the unoccupied liars and grab all the big full ones of resources that I need, usually iron.

xyz

Dec 12, 2017, 00:0212/12/17

06/21/17

1303

11... that's great... was unaware you could have that many

Deleted

Dec 12, 2017, 05:2812/12/17

The max # of march may be 18, at lv 31 and all march knowledge completed.

blazebo

Dec 12, 2017, 21:0412/12/17

Dec 12, 2017, 21:05(edited)

04/07/17

1350

I like to use these resource yield bonus when I am going to send out a lot of marches and send them out frequently (so they are small marches and I won't lose a lot of troops if they are attacked, inevitably when someone comes in to attack I will lose the march closest to where they transported to but usually I can "pull" the others before they can get to them).

Deleted

Dec 12, 2017, 21:3512/12/17

When sending out smallish marches, I try to send out a batch just before the 1 hr ends, but the marches must be at the rss site before the timer expires. I misjudged today and 1 march didn't make it in time and for 30k troops, 475k rss and a 75% reduction it took about extra 28 minutes to complete.

blazebo

Dec 12, 2017, 21:4912/12/17

04/07/17

1350

Yes I do that a lot also and yes sometimes you don't time them all perfect.

Deleted

Dec 14, 2017, 13:5712/14/17

146

i see that with this new knowledge and shaman we have many more ways to test yielding and i had done it with heros double on so i had 2 heros with centurions gear and shaman with 2 equipments and 75% boost on with lvl6 in spoils of war new 2 of them in economics and 10 on previous spoil of war which gets huge difference but a hell lot of rss.

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