Whilst thanking you for you input.

 Again this is contradictory to the many conflicting accounts that have been spoken of elsewhere. 

Including those who wrote they didn't kill ubers,which as necessary, makes it quite difficult and expensive to get for every class of player,but especially  so,as you wrote for low level accounts.

Also there is some possibility that the unwanted changes to the secret achievements has also affected white wolf.

If my counting up is accurate there are twenty types of Invader including the Ubers.  Current received wisdom is that for White Wolf you must make kills in each type - one of each for level I, two of each for level II.

So yes, Uber kills are needed.  Sensible management of hero energy requires a lot of progress - perhaps maxing out - the Invaders knowledge tree and creating a high level set of Royal Guardsman equipment.  So about a year's play without using Achievement gold - half that or less if you use Achievement gold to speed things up.

Since the topic was opened, the original post has been suspiciously altered .

The exact way to get White Wolf seems to still be a mystery,except to those that claim they know exactly how it works,but will not tell anyone, which in some ways makes sense,much like the logic behind the blocking of the pioneer tiles, which was/is so annoying for the majority of players. 

As to your 'no rush to get White Wolf', I have mixed opinions on that. 

The gold reward is nice ,but if you gain little benefit from the other bonuses, it can be costly to get the award slowly or quickly,assuming that it is necessary to do as you suggest and kill ubers.

I have also read the discussions about how the White Wolf  was changed, making it even more difficult /expensive to accomplish,when they introduced minimum palace levels for many of the awards, which references me back to your no need to rush, to complete.

Many of us thought that over pioneer, skald, and the rarest viking, and others slightly more complex,and they did the dirty on us, and they are now out of the easier reach they once were.  

   Later addition 

Regarding your seemingly sound suggestion about gaining invader knowledge first.

Do you have personal experience on the time scale to complete the invaders knowledge tree, and the actual benefit from using the royal guardsman equipment?

The gold rewards for Achievements are, by a couple of levels of magnitude, bigger than anything else within the game.  I believe this is, in part, because plarium has appreciated that with the game maturing and with many more large towns the previous rewards had become disproportionately small.  I certainly welcome the increase in the rewards for CvC wins and the much improved number of charms given in the ghost hunt events.

Interesting point of view, but it reminds me of the song , (which you might not have heard) 'I know an old lady who swallowed a fly'.

The cure becomes increasingly worse than the problem, and eventually ends in her demise.

Since the topic was opened, the original post has been suspiciously altered .

The exact way to get White Wolf seems to still be a mystery,except to those that claim they know exactly how it works,but will not tell anyone, which in some ways makes sense,much like the logic behind the blocking of the pioneer tiles, which was/is so annoying for the majority of players. 

As to your 'no rush to get White Wolf', I have mixed opinions on that. 

The gold reward is nice ,but if you gain little benefit from the other bonuses, it can be costly to get the award slowly or quickly,assuming that it is necessary to do as you suggest and kill ubers.

I have also read the discussions about how the White Wolf  was changed, making it even more difficult /expensive to accomplish,when they introduced minimum palace levels for many of the awards, which references me back to your no need to rush, to complete.

Many of us thought that over pioneer, skald, and the rarest viking, and others slightly more complex,and they did the dirty on us, and they are now out of the easier reach they once were.  

   Later addition 

Regarding your seemingly sound suggestion about gaining invader knowledge first.

Do you have personal experience on the time scale to complete the invaders knowledge tree, and the actual benefit from using the royal guardsman equipment?

The current belief is that Whire Wolf requires one kill for each of the 16 different Invaders plus one kill for each of the four different Ubers plus nine ghosts.  It is then exactly the same for level 2 and also for three and also for four.  For level five (and probably six) it is three of each type.

It took me about eighteen months of regular play (for free) to max out Invaders knowledge but that was before Achievements gold.  Using some achievements

gold would speed that up substantially, if it were thought to be a good use for the gold.

I made green (Unusual) equipment and used that until I had gathered enough materials for legendary gear.  Unusual equipment is OK for hitting lower level Invaders but not for level five, six and Ubers.  I kept no records so cannot quantify the difference.

LIZZARDJANE why did you just copy my post ?

JOHN

I've also read that  you additionally now need to be able to kill first ubers, and now ghosts, in order to progress white wolf,which makes it even less cost effective to do, given the  low gold it gives and the bonuses  which are not that useful early on.

As to many  aspects of the game  making unusual level gear and upgrading is going to be dependant on how one thinks and how one plays,etc.

It doesn't really matter about records as such, if you are fortunate to have legendary R.G.M. gear its a simple enough task to do a run with and without wearing it to see how beneficial it really is,and of course its probably somewhat advantageous to have if you play a long time, and have maxed out hero experience, till they increase the levels again??????

An unanswerable question??????

If R.G.M is about saving energy, how must have you 'lost' by having to upgrade each green piece to legendary, especially if you first go through rare and epic?

I was unable to come to any conclusion as to whether it is better to save all materials until you can craft legendary gear or to make an intermediate set.  My instinct is that a low level intermediate set probably pays for itself (with the marginally improved drops etc.) over the lengthy period spent collecting enough materials for legendary.  I only crafted the one set of intermediate gear and then held on until I could make legendary.  The same argument as above might suggest a different approach but the length of time is coming down as materials which would allow a higher level intermediate set are acquired.  Anyway I emerged happy enough with the approach I took.  Others no doubt follow their own path.

My main focus in the game is CvC and I rely on such hero's energy as I can gather to hit some Ubers in each contest.  So I am afraid I will not be burning any energy to run your test.  Perhaps a Vikings:Game of Shopping player will run the test and tell us how much energy the Royal Guardsman gear saves.

Like in many aspects of the game its often difficult to come to any conclusion,even if you start again from scratch ,as much has chanced recently, and we have seen how they give and seen how they takeaway. 

Its even more difficult to do this when what they do is covert.

I didn't mean to suggest that you do a test , it was more an observation, and something when able,I had in mind to do myself, based on supposition and suspicion and 'evidence' of sorts.

Is this a question?

A statement?

If players really need ( a separate debate) or just want, hero equipment, other than the standard that can be forged from the more readily available materials, there is a necessity to attack invaders(or ghosts).

Though not as strong as when uber were first introduced,there is an argument to attack uber invaders as early as possible,and this isn't really anything to to do directly with palace size.

Its more to do with invaders knowledge and availability of energy.

If you are buying mega amounts of energy, and not worried about the cost, there's no need to worry, however if you have low invader knowledge and not much energy, attacking uber is not so useful.