Double edged sword I suppose, as least, as you note, you get to kill them.

A Discord threader noted that with yielding so fast, a typical 10k yielder (coming back faster than an attacker can reach them, usually?), doesn't do so any more, now sending more than 10k. Becoming easier to tile hit.

JanelSmiles said:

But the real issue I have is that we won the KvKr, but our OvO opponent had not. So they could farm our 9's in the OvO & get double points for them.

Only if you let them.

It's like we were penalized for winning the KvKr.

Or bonused, as they had to come to you. And present their backsides which you can then kick. (Or anyone else from your k - the larger issue is preventing your opponent from getting points than your ability to kill them. If you don't keep a lid on their yielding they can get B's, even if you don't get the same for what limited kills one manages to land.)

Some of our k members have also noted a caveat: In this situation you can yield far faster at home than in enemy, acquiring points faster at home than in enemy - so in some cases yielding at home can be more profitable than abroad.

I'm not disagreeing with you, merely noting the double-edge. The reverse happened to us - none of them came to us, staying home to yield, and killing us when we tried. So we just gave up and went home for the duration.

Now that we know the nature of this beastie, we'll try to come up with some different and more effective tactics for next time. Like perhaps yielding adjacently with stronger so they break their teeth, and with nearby guard dogs to bite them if they try.

Anyone with good thoughts or strategies, do please speak up here! :)

Nicely put.

Also ... if they are yielding in such small troop numbers that it makes it pointless to pursue them, it also means it will take them a very long time to accomplish any meaningful points. So pursue other higher rate of point return actions in the mean time. (If they're small, they won't be able to keep up.)

And to Rikku's point if they leave early, they are getting few points.

So send 1 troop without Hero / Inquisitor in attack. If they don't leave / aren't watching, recall the march and immediately send another larger one. (Any troop x times the size of what's there will win, destroying 80% of the enemy. [Assuming no Hero / Inquisitor present. But do send yours.])

Agreed, even if you outscore then on every other item, an enemy that did not win their Rebellion has a significant advantage. It isn't equitable to say "well hunt them" because people sleep, work and have lives.At least if there's a supremacy or hunting event at the same time then other orders will participate in keeping enemies off the 9's but this wasn't the case. 

The rebellion rewards seriously disadvantage the winning kingdom in the Ovo -  so if you win rebellion you will lose the following Ovo, even with the boosts added - perhaps its worth it for the rss - ? but it will be the tradeoff. 

The next impact is the scattered 7's now as a result. So retribution kvk's are no longer really worth winning for the rss as the 7's are hard to find and not worth the gold hunting down - and Rebellion isnt worth winning if you are Ovo-focused. 

The resulting impacts of these events weren't well thought though. And dont even get me started on the Rebel towers - until you're level 30 + you can just ignore those altogether - which is easy since there are hardly any of them anyway. 

I agree, in OvO better yielding tiles in home kingdom are double edged, but more of a disadvantage than an advantage for that event. That being said, yielding really is just small potatoes in terms of points for an OvO. You'd have to be pretty active to get more than a few B as an individual player from yielding tiles.

Scattered bonus tiles tend to benefit the smaller players, rather than the bigger ones.

Rebel towers are actually OK for smaller players, however only in their home kingdom. It is possible to send troops to help defend these sites. This does not break shield, and can get you some combat points. Someone who has developed good scouting can also get some good kills, though this would likely be dominated by the bigger players. I do agree though that they really are defended by a massive defense which will take several waves of raids to break, even for fully equipped players.

Vasusena said:

... That being said, yielding really is just small potatoes in terms of points for an OvO. You'd have to be pretty active to get more than a few B as an individual player from yielding tiles.

I have found that it is the repeated minuscule yielding that can be the final straw in winning or losing an event. (Or, after the fact, be completely irrelevant.) As a result, you cannot take the chance, and need some players killing troops on these tiles. They don't even have to be successful, merely keeping the enemy yielding points constrained and contained. Problem being such minding is expensive troop wise, and time consuming, and you unshield long enough for that bully the next screen over to zero you.

[You don't even have to be successful - if you approach a tile and they withdraw, your job is done. If they keep coming back, leave 10k on a tile (immaterial to players the size of tile hitters) - usually they don't want to break their own shield, and so stop coming and move on.]

Scattered bonus tiles tend to benefit the smaller players, rather than the bigger ones.

But not, as you point out, in any material way. They could get as much and more rss from their own large players in their order. In some senses, yielding is a fools game, little reward, time consuming, while exposing your behind.

And the smaller you are the more hits hurts. (Limited troops available, limited rate to train or heal, needing precious gold to resurrect.) The larger you are, the reverse is true, and the less likely you are doing the yielding - being the tile hitters, instead.

[Never mind the excellent comments elsewhere that resurrection is a more expensive troop acquisition method than the others. The others having various bonuses / gear speed/cost reducers, while gold = 100% unreduced cost, even when -10% bonuses are in play.]

in kingdom 50  we won and got lvl 9 tiles but right before ovo they turned them off and now we still have not got our last 3 days of lvl9 tiles after ovo is over and i think that is bs