Not a bad update

How much PVP do these units offer?

If you build them - they will come.....

This could become a nightmare for smaller players being hit for easy PVP since you cannot catacomb these units

at least they are cheap to build

a good update thank you very much plarium now must get back to being a tyrant

Jezebel said:

Not a bad update

How much PVP do these units offer?

If you build them - they will come.....

This could become a nightmare for smaller players being hit for easy PVP since you cannot catacomb these units

at least they are cheap to build

Hello!

I'm happy to hear you find this update not bad :)

If you upgrade them all to their max in the level 1 section in lost arts, they are superb bomb protection castle defense units, I use them all the time 

My spirit wardens on facebook are at level 4 - http://prntscr.com/kremqz

PvP points are not the same as you might expect, so someone is being economical with the truth

I only got 6 pvp points when my castle was firebombed

but got 210 points when they killed 5 dragons - http://prntscr.com/kreulf

and 328 points for killing 9 wyverns - http://prntscr.com/krfe3i

so something is wrong, but don't think I'm complaining

If Fireballs are obsolete for pvp then I will be delighted

Snowgoon said:

My spirit wardens on facebook are at level 4 - http://prntscr.com/kremqz

PvP points are not the same as you might expect, so someone is being economical with the truth

I only got 6 pvp points when my castle was firebombed

but got 210 points when they killed 5 dragons - http://prntscr.com/kreulf

and 328 points for killing 9 wyverns - http://prntscr.com/krfe3i

so something is wrong, but don't think I'm complaining

If Fireballs are obsolete for pvp then I will be delighted

I am sorry this statement confuses me - the recipient of fireballs does not really receive many points the person sending the fireball does

so how many points does the person sending the fireball get?  They are still killing troops you build that you don't get to revive a percentage of and you have to rebuild them - so does the person sending the fireball still get as many points as they would with regular defense?

I don't think the Spirit Wardens make fireballs obsolete they are just cheaper to rebuild than your regular army ....

Jezebel said:

Snowgoon said:

If Fireballs are obsolete for pvp then I will be delighted

I would like to see a screen shot of a fireball sent not received that shows how many points a person gets when they hit spirit warden with a fireball

This was posted on facebook 27th July - http://prntscr.com/krgg98

This player sent a fireball and only got 9 or 10 points, and they killed many spirit wardens  .... which makes fireballs obsolete

Yippeeeeeeee!!!

Snowgoon said:

Jezebel said:

Snowgoon said:

If Fireballs are obsolete for pvp then I will be delighted

I would like to see a screen shot of a fireball sent not received that shows how many points a person gets when they hit spirit warden with a fireball

This was posted on facebook 27th July - http://prntscr.com/krgg98

This player sent a fireball and only got 9 or 10 points .... which makes fireballs obsolete

Yippeeeeeeee!!!

okay sure but what did they kill? for all we know there could have been 5 infantry spirit wardens in the castle and nothing else

this really does not prove the claim that they are obsolete - if you fireball an empty castle you get no points ... just sayin

It is impossible to get full info from facebook players

This is the best we have for now, but they claim the castle was stacked

http://prntscr.com/krgqmf

http://prntscr.com/krgru0

Snowgoon said:

He would not expect 400 points from an empty castle :)

It is impossible to get full info from facebook players

This is the best we have for now, but they claim the castle was stacked

http://prntscr.com/krgqmf

http://prntscr.com/krgru0

maybe i but the fireball ss does not show any troops so I cant take their "word" for it - they can write all they want in the comments it means nothing 

screen shots or it didn't happen is the saying on this server

Snowgoon is correct, we have had spirit wardens for some time now on the Dark Plains, as much as I dont like fireballs dropped on my castle I do use them myself from time to time and bombing a castle with maxed spirit wardens in the 1st teir can take close to 20 fireballs for very little points going to the attacker so yes those spirit wardens are well worth upgrading 

BG SLAYER said:

If you have the soulstones and sketches to max out teir 2 of spirit wardens and have them built sitting out in your castle, your castle can take up to 100 fireballs without any damage to your troops, weir and castle guards, this has been tested on the Dark Plains server as well, I hope this helps

What?!?!?

Soulstone use for older players,, finally can use them again... What about the newer players who did not have thousands on hand?

But, SKETCHES also... That does not help MANY players and will drive some more away. The 'balance" gets skewed again.

Yeah, I have not logged since the update, but might have to just see for myself... If true yet another reason NOT to login.

My brain is switched off on a weekend, so I need help

How can one lousy wraith kill a spirit warden?

http://prntscr.com/ks3fao

Basic defense should be 100, so there is no way that a wraith should ever come close to causing any losses

The reason this annoys me so much is that this particular league loves to send hundreds of spam attacks like this, and if each attack kills wardens then our wardens are gonna be pretty useless.
This also raises the important question of how much confidential information is given to spam attackers?
Why is Champion info given away to failed attacks like this?
Spirit Wardens stop these attacks BEFORE they reach our Castles

http://prntscr.com/ks3ife

I can (almost) understand pikeman attacks, but was a bit surprised to see so many tournament points being earned, so wondered how many points the attacker gets .... and why not identical points from identical attacks?

http://prntscr.com/ks3j8t
http://prntscr.com/ks3v79

Also confused why 2 identical attacks give opposite reults?

One pike kills one Huntress - https://prnt.sc/ks3lgv

One pike fails to kill one Huntress - https://prnt.sc/ks3l4u

Both battles with the same timestamp, so all bonuses should be the same

Does this mean that besieging armies benefit from Castle Walls? (the second castle had much better walls)

This seems completely wrong to me - a besieging army should be outside the castle, not inside, so should never get any benefit from walls

Too much in this game is unexplained and illogical

basically pointless to build until you have them maxed though because people are now just sending 10 paks of fireballs rather than one 

Spirit wardens are optional and do not take up any room in your normal buildques as they are built from the Town Hall, you dont even have to build them if you dont want to

I do coin, but I have not taken mine past teir 1 because I find it more fun with autohide on to watch players waste their bombs on me and get no points, as for Snowgoon's question about a wraith killing a spirit warden, that all depends on the attackers hitpoints on their wraiths because only the Divine spirits and Infantry spirits will defend against a wraith being infantry

With spirit wardens they are the 1st line of defense, they go in to fight while the other troops sit back in your castle, once the wardens are dead to fireballs or their respective troop types or the attack is much larger than the wardens can take in the hit, only then will the other troop types at your castle start to be killed off too

Snowgoon, with your other questions about does the castle defense bonus benefit the seiger, maybe start a new thread on that part, see what replies come of it, i will even reply to it on a new thread through my own experience with it only because this post is about spirit wardens 

BG SLAYER said:

Spirit wardens are optional and do not take up any room in your normal buildques as they are built from the Town Hall, you dont even have to build them if you dont want to

I do coin, but I have not taken mine past teir 1 because I find it more fun with autohide on to watch players waste their bombs on me and get no points, as for Snowgoon's question about a wraith killing a spirit warden, that all depends on the attackers hitpoints on their wraiths because only the Divine spirits and Infantry spirits will defend against a wraith being infantry

With spirit wardens they are the 1st line of defense, they go in to fight while the other troops sit back in your castle, once the wardens are dead to fireballs or their respective troop types or the attack is much larger than the wardens can take in the hit, only then will the other troop types at your castle start to be killed off too

Snowgoon, with your other questions about does the castle defense bonus benefit the seiger, maybe start a new thread on that part, see what replies come of it, i will even reply to it on a new thread through my own experience with it only because this post is about spirit wardens 

my wraiths http://prntscr.com/kse0n0

i suppose if i was running offense enhancers they would be high enough to kill an infantry spirit warden

Bonuses were removed from wraiths last year

http://prntscr.com/ksh3a8

Seems plarium messed up and forgot a few - but I doubt we will see wraiths with more than 100 offense very often

even if Black Rose noobs are dumb enough to send high grade champions and get them stunned for 5 days - http://prntscr.com/ksh53q