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BG mechanics CALCULATE wrong

Mark ROMANIA

Jan 14, 2018, 16:2401/14/18

11/27/14

500

BG mechanics CALCULATE wrong

I did a Bg and I lost more units that it supposed to !

BG is calculate wrong !

Can u explain next pictures ?

U can see in my calculator that Balurs deffense force against Ocult was 1.144.386 mil off .

Why i lost 1.362.349 mil off ???

Comments

BiohazarDModerator

Jan 14, 2018, 20:3901/14/18

10/04/13

3817

Lord Mark said:

I did a Bg and I lost more units that it supposed to !
BG is calculate wrong !

Can u explain next pictures ?

U can see in my calculator that Balurs deffense force against Ocult was 1.144.386 mil off .
Why i lost 1.362.349 mil off ???

BGs have always worked like that. I don't know why though.

Mark ROMANIA

Jan 14, 2018, 21:5601/14/18

11/27/14

500

I think u dont know how to calculate !

BG is math...

If u dont have any logical argument ...please dont comment !

Juglar del Viento

Jan 14, 2018, 22:2901/14/18

04/10/15

1437

Lord Mark

could you please post ur offensive power with the 500 necros instead of the killed one?

i could try to do some maths but need the total offensive points sent

regards

Mark ROMANIA

Jan 14, 2018, 22:4601/14/18

11/27/14

500

Juglar del Viento said:

Lord Mark
could you please post ur offensive power with the 500 necros instead of the killed one?
i could try to do some maths but need the total offensive points sent
regards

you can see the power of 1 necro : 2820.6.

500 x 2820.6 = 1.410.300 mil off

DeletedTechnical Support

Jan 15, 2018, 09:4301/15/18

4521

Hello, Lord!

The reported case cannot be classified as a bug since this is a part of the regular gameplay. Please refer to this article, it can help you to solve the issue. Meanwhile, I have moved your topic to Game Discussion thread.

Mark ROMANIA

Jan 15, 2018, 11:1301/15/18

11/27/14

500

Agent Pavel said:

Hello, Lord!
The reported case cannot be classified as a bug since this is a part of the regular gameplay. Please refer to this article, it can help you to solve the issue. Meanwhile, I have moved your topic to Game Discussion thread.

U are telling me that stats dont mean anythig ?

Today is 80....tomorow more...

It is ''gameplay'' to mess up the mechanics...or what are u trying to say ?

Juglar del Viento

Jan 15, 2018, 14:3301/15/18

Jan 15, 2018, 14:33(edited)

04/10/15

1437

Lord Mark said:

I think u dont know how to calculate !
BG is math...

If u dont have any logical argument ...please dont comment !

Bg fight formula is more complex than regular battles between lords so at the moment i dont know of anybody who could know it or explain it

so we can do the usual operations and try to advance from there how it works

your battle is 45-55 against balur in normal battle u should have lost the 45% and balur the 55%

on bgs if balur looses is cause he looses all his units in this case is 100% for him against ur 97%

its all i can say at this moment

Regards

Chyntea

Jan 15, 2018, 16:4401/15/18

02/20/17

Dont bother asking. For sure at the end of the discussion they will just say this matter related to each of individual player account in terms of development, level, blah...blah...and so on. No bugs and so on. Nothing wrong with the game system. Even the smallest issue of my WOF cannot be solved rather than this. Just play your game as usual.

JEZEBEL

Jan 15, 2018, 18:3701/15/18

Jan 15, 2018, 18:39(edited)

12/18/14

1835

doesn't matter BG are resources in = resources out so if you are putting in more resources then you should be getting more out ... I would assume :)

Also they are not broken this is my payout from this morning http://prntscr.com/i0ug5o

Fudgys Mickael

Jan 15, 2018, 22:0401/15/18

Jan 16, 2018, 00:09(edited)

266

Hello,

The bonuses of the units in the battelgrounds are unknown, to my knowledge.

My calculation, with no bonuses, is:

828*20 + 2879*40 + 2740*180 + 6493*80 = 1,144,360

It's the same result that you have.

We can calculate the relative difference:

1362349,8/1144360 = 1.19

So it looks like the battlegrounds units you faced have a bonus of + 19%.

I did a fight too, and here is the result:

My wyverns have 2181.6 offensive points.

647*2181.6 = 1411495.2

3648*240 + 4546*60 + 371*40 + 2684*20 = 1216800

1411495.2/1216800 = 1.16

For me, the opposing units have a bonus of 16%. It probably depends on the level of the battleground you are facing.

PS: I spoke of your battle, Lord Mark, in the comments of my guide: https://plarium.com/forum/en/stormfall-age-of-war/game-tutorials/90875_the-ultimate-guide-for-battlegrounds/

War_Ant

Jan 15, 2018, 23:0801/15/18

01/11/16

144

I always noticed if you send more then needed the game will kill more units. Been like that since I recall.

Iron Apex

Jan 16, 2018, 01:0001/16/18

08/03/14

1364

Lord Mark said:

Agent Pavel said:

Hello, Lord!
The reported case cannot be classified as a bug since this is a part of the regular gameplay. Please refer to this article, it can help you to solve the issue. Meanwhile, I have moved your topic to Game Discussion thread.

U are telling me that stats dont mean anythig ?
Today is 80....tomorow more...

It is ''gameplay'' to mess up the mechanics...or what are u trying to say ?

exactly. during certain updates bonuses are applied accidentally to BGs, other updates intentionally apply bonuses....but what are they? we dont know.

Snowgoon

Jan 17, 2018, 22:0701/17/18

Jan 17, 2018, 22:08(edited)

12/13/14

1283

Wish you had sent 406 Necro which should have been enough to complete the battleground with one necro surviving

406 Necro x 2820.6 = 1,145,164

Sending too many units is wasteful, same as not sending waves of infantry and cavalry first .... but it does boost the bank
Even so, losing 483 does seem harsh

It is my belief that 500 Necro attack, and then all survivors keep attacking until all balur units are dead, but we only see one battle report

Fudgys Mickael

Jan 17, 2018, 23:3701/17/18

266

Hello,

I do not understand what you said, Snowgoon. Can you please re-explain what is your belief ?

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Please <a href=\"//plariumsupport.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000756905-How-can-I-improve-my-strategy-to-obtain-good-rewards-on-the-Battlegrounds-\" rel=\"nofollow ugc\" target=\"_blank\">refer to this article</a>, it can help you to solve the issue. Meanwhile, I have moved your topic to Game Discussion thread.</p>","userRegistered":"","userCommentsCount":"4521","userName":"Deleted","createdDate":"1516009392497","editedDate":"0","id":"442621","entityId":"94108","likesCount":"0","quotedId":"","userBanId":""},"images":{"avatar":{"href":"https://cdn-gpd.x-plarium.com/browser/content/forum/common/avatars/default_avatar.jpg"}},"template_options":{"isLiked":"false","wasEdited":"false","canEdit":"false","compositeId":"442621","isDeleted":"false"},"repeaters":{}},{"links":{"authorUrl":"/en/profile/108220/","commentUrl":"/en/comment/topic_442684/"},"strings":{"userRole":"","userId":"108220","contentDraftJs":"","contentHtml":"<p>Agent Pavel said:</p><br><blockquote><p>Hello, Lord!</p><p>The reported case cannot be classified as a bug since this is a part of the regular gameplay. Please <a href=\"//plariumsupport.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000756905-How-can-I-improve-my-strategy-to-obtain-good-rewards-on-the-Battlegrounds-\" rel=\"nofollow ugc\" target=\"_blank\">refer to this article</a>, it can help you to solve the issue. Meanwhile, I have moved your topic to Game Discussion thread.</p></blockquote><img src=\"//cnt-forum.plarium.com/file.bmp?g=fecadf20-5c44-41fd-9a18-e201bf9df253\"><br><br><p>U are telling me that stats dont mean anythig ? </p><p>Today is 80....tomorow more...</p><br><p>It is ''gameplay'' to mess up the mechanics...or what are u trying to say  ?</p><p><br></p>","userRegistered":"1417057743700","userCommentsCount":"500","userName":"Mark ROMANIA","createdDate":"1516014831433","editedDate":"0","id":"442684","entityId":"94108","likesCount":"0","quotedId":"","userBanId":""},"images":{"avatar":{"href":"https://cdn-gpd-avatar.x-plarium.com/prod/b186d078-cb69-4aaf-8964-9b9ef4cfe126"}},"template_options":{"isLiked":"false","wasEdited":"false","canEdit":"false","compositeId":"442684","isDeleted":"false"},"repeaters":{}},{"links":{"authorUrl":"/en/profile/277364/","commentUrl":"/en/comment/topic_442775/"},"strings":{"userRole":"","userId":"277364","contentDraftJs":"","contentHtml":"<p>Lord Mark said:</p><br><blockquote><p>I think u dont know how to calculate !</p><p>BG is math...</p><br>If u dont have any logical argument ...please dont comment !</blockquote><p>Bg fight formula is more complex than regular battles between lords so at the moment i dont know of anybody who could know it or explain it</p><p>so we can do the usual operations and try to advance from there how it works</p><p>your battle is 45-55 against balur in normal battle u should have lost the 45% and balur the 55% </p><p>on bgs if balur looses is cause he looses all his units in this case is 100% for him against ur 97%</p><p>its all i can say at this moment</p><p>Regards</p>","userRegistered":"1428687025940","userCommentsCount":"1437","userName":"Juglar del Viento","createdDate":"1516026780213","editedDate":"1516026805467","id":"442775","entityId":"94108","likesCount":"0","quotedId":"","userBanId":""},"images":{"avatar":{"href":"https://cdn-gpd-avatar.x-plarium.com/prod/10023754.jpeg?v=1623093150"}},"template_options":{"isLiked":"false","wasEdited":"true","canEdit":"false","compositeId":"442775","isDeleted":"false"},"repeaters":{}},{"links":{"authorUrl":"/en/profile/1458815/","commentUrl":"/en/comment/topic_442830/"},"strings":{"userRole":"","userId":"1458815","contentDraftJs":"","contentHtml":"Dont bother asking. For sure at the end of the discussion they will just say this matter related to each of individual player account in terms of development, level, blah...blah...and so on.  No bugs and so on. Nothing wrong with the game system. Even the smallest issue of my WOF cannot be solved rather than this. Just play your game as usual.","userRegistered":"1487603800817","userCommentsCount":"49","userName":"Chyntea ","createdDate":"1516034662817","editedDate":"0","id":"442830","entityId":"94108","likesCount":"0","quotedId":"","userBanId":""},"images":{"avatar":{"href":"https://cdn-gpd-avatar.x-plarium.com/prod/27551159.jpeg?v=1623414089"}},"template_options":{"isLiked":"false","wasEdited":"false","canEdit":"false","compositeId":"442830","isDeleted":"false"},"repeaters":{}},{"links":{"authorUrl":"/en/profile/26819/","commentUrl":"/en/comment/topic_442874/"},"strings":{"userRole":"","userId":"26819","contentDraftJs":"","contentHtml":"<p>doesn't matter BG are resources in = resources out so if you are putting in more resources then you should be getting more out ... I would assume :)</p><br><p>Also they are not broken this is my payout from this morning <a href=\"//prntscr.com/i0ug5o\" rel=\"nofollow ugc\" target=\"_blank\">http://prntscr.com/i0ug5o</a></p>","userRegistered":"1418935224990","userCommentsCount":"1835","userName":"JEZEBEL ","createdDate":"1516041449497","editedDate":"1516041540037","id":"442874","entityId":"94108","likesCount":"0","quotedId":"","userBanId":""},"images":{"avatar":{"href":"https://cdn-gpd-avatar.x-plarium.com/prod/7487102.jpeg?v=1529628091"}},"template_options":{"isLiked":"false","wasEdited":"true","canEdit":"false","compositeId":"442874","isDeleted":"false"},"repeaters":{}},{"links":{"authorUrl":"/en/profile/1313258/","commentUrl":"/en/comment/topic_442958/"},"strings":{"userRole":"","userId":"1313258","contentDraftJs":"","contentHtml":"<p>Hello,</p><p>The bonuses of the units in the battelgrounds are unknown, to my knowledge.</p><p>My calculation, with no bonuses, is:</p><br><p>828*20 + 2879*40 + 2740*180 + 6493*80 = 1,144,360</p><br><p>It's the same result that you have.</p><p>We can calculate the relative difference:</p><br><p>1362349,8/1144360 = 1.19</p><br><p>So it looks like the battlegrounds units you faced have a bonus of + 19%.</p><br><br><br><br><p>I did a fight too, and here is the result:</p><br><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img src=\"//cnt-forum.plarium.com/file.bmp?url=https%3a%2f%2fpreview.ibb.co%2fdQD3P6%2fbg.png\" alt=\"\"></p><br><br><p>My wyverns have 2181.6 offensive points.</p><p>647*2181.6 = 1411495.2</p><p>3648*240 + 4546*60 + 371*40 + 2684*20 = 1216800</p><br><p>1411495.2/1216800 = 1.16</p><br><p>For me, the opposing units have a bonus of 16%. It probably depends on the level of the battleground you are facing.</p><br><br><br><br><br><br><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img src=\"//cnt-forum.plarium.com/file.bmp?url=https%3a%2f%2fimage.ibb.co%2fg04k46%2fmarennon.png\" alt=\"\"></p><br><br><p style=\"text-align: left;\">PS: I spoke of your battle, Lord Mark, in the comments of my guide: <a href=\"//plarium.com/forum/en/stormfall-age-of-war/game-tutorials/90875_the-ultimate-guide-for-battlegrounds/\" target=\"_blank\">https://plarium.com/forum/en/stormfall-age-of-war/game-tutorials/90875_the-ultimate-guide-for-battlegrounds/</a></p>","userRegistered":"","userCommentsCount":"266","userName":"Fudgys Mickael ","createdDate":"1516053874677","editedDate":"1516061397923","id":"442958","entityId":"94108","likesCount":"0","quotedId":"","userBanId":""},"images":{"avatar":{"href":"https://cdn-gpd-avatar.x-plarium.com/prod/24362274.jpeg?v=1528883352"}},"template_options":{"isLiked":"false","wasEdited":"true","canEdit":"false","compositeId":"442958","isDeleted":"false"},"repeaters":{}},{"links":{"authorUrl":"/en/profile/1007345/","commentUrl":"/en/comment/topic_442974/"},"strings":{"userRole":"","userId":"1007345","contentDraftJs":"","contentHtml":"I always noticed if you send more then needed the game will kill more units. Been like that since I recall.","userRegistered":"1452485661417","userCommentsCount":"144","userName":"War_Ant","createdDate":"1516057685867","editedDate":"0","id":"442974","entityId":"94108","likesCount":"0","quotedId":"","userBanId":""},"images":{"avatar":{"href":"https://cdn-gpd-avatar.x-plarium.com/prod/17646760.jpeg?v=1531874249"}},"template_options":{"isLiked":"false","wasEdited":"false","canEdit":"false","compositeId":"442974","isDeleted":"false"},"repeaters":{}},{"links":{"authorUrl":"/en/profile/31141/","commentUrl":"/en/comment/topic_442994/"},"strings":{"userRole":"","userId":"31141","contentDraftJs":"","contentHtml":"<p>Lord Mark said:</p><br><blockquote><p>Agent Pavel said:</p><br><blockquote><p>Hello, Lord!</p><p>The reported case cannot be classified as a bug since this is a part of the regular gameplay. Please <a href=\"//plariumsupport.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000756905-How-can-I-improve-my-strategy-to-obtain-good-rewards-on-the-Battlegrounds-\" rel=\"nofollow ugc\" target=\"_blank\">refer to this article</a>, it can help you to solve the issue. Meanwhile, I have moved your topic to Game Discussion thread.</p></blockquote><img src=\"//cnt-forum.plarium.com/file.bmp?g=fecadf20-5c44-41fd-9a18-e201bf9df253\"><br><br><p>U are telling me that stats dont mean anythig ? </p><p>Today is 80....tomorow more...</p><br><p>It is ''gameplay'' to mess up the mechanics...or what are u trying to say  ?</p><br></blockquote><p>exactly. during certain updates bonuses are applied accidentally to BGs, other updates intentionally apply bonuses....but what are they?  we dont know. </p><br><br>","userRegistered":"1407084753440","userCommentsCount":"1364","userName":"Iron Apex","createdDate":"1516064414940","editedDate":"0","id":"442994","entityId":"94108","likesCount":"0","quotedId":"","userBanId":"75"},"images":{"avatar":{"href":"https://cdn-gpd.x-plarium.com/browser/content/portal/pirates/avatars/14.jpg"}},"template_options":{"isLiked":"false","wasEdited":"false","canEdit":"false","compositeId":"442994","isDeleted":"false"},"repeaters":{}},{"links":{"authorUrl":"/en/profile/20842/","commentUrl":"/en/comment/topic_443919/"},"strings":{"userRole":"","userId":"20842","contentDraftJs":"","contentHtml":"<p>Wish you had sent 406 Necro which should have been enough to complete the battleground with one necro surviving</p><br><p>406 Necro x 2820.6 = 1,145,164</p><br><p>Sending too many units is wasteful, same as not sending waves of infantry and cavalry first .... but it does boost the bank<br>Even so, losing 483 does seem harsh</p><br><p>It is my belief that 500 Necro attack, and then all survivors keep attacking until all balur units are dead, but we only see one battle report</p><br><img src=\"//cnt-forum.plarium.com/file.bmp?url=https%3a%2f%2fimage.prntscr.com%2fimage%2fbV1Oh4paT9anwB29TZ1UfA.png\" alt=\"\"><br>","userRegistered":"1418488719920","userCommentsCount":"1283","userName":"Snowgoon","createdDate":"1516226855683","editedDate":"1516226934800","id":"443919","entityId":"94108","likesCount":"0","quotedId":"","userBanId":""},"images":{"avatar":{"href":"https://cdn-gpd-avatar.x-plarium.com/prod/d9b060eb-15de-46ec-8136-151495469c30"}},"template_options":{"isLiked":"false","wasEdited":"true","canEdit":"false","compositeId":"443919","isDeleted":"false"},"repeaters":{}},{"links":{"authorUrl":"/en/profile/1313258/","commentUrl":"/en/comment/topic_443930/"},"strings":{"userRole":"","userId":"1313258","contentDraftJs":"","contentHtml":"<p>Hello,</p><p>I do not understand what you said, Snowgoon. Can you please re-explain what is your belief ?</p>","userRegistered":"","userCommentsCount":"266","userName":"Fudgys Mickael ","createdDate":"1516232248907","editedDate":"0","id":"443930","entityId":"94108","likesCount":"0","quotedId":"","userBanId":""},"images":{"avatar":{"href":"https://cdn-gpd-avatar.x-plarium.com/prod/24362274.jpeg?v=1528883352"}},"template_options":{"isLiked":"false","wasEdited":"false","canEdit":"false","compositeId":"443930","isDeleted":"false"},"repeaters":{}}]},"components":{}}},{"name":"wEditor","type":"wEditor","model":{"links":{},"strings":{"title":"Add title","shortText":"Add summary","buttonSave":"Post","buttonCancel":"Cancel","buttonComment":"Comment","timerTitle":"Set Post Date and Time","timerPlaceholder":"Schedule Post","buttonPreview":"Preview","timeUTC":"This post will go live using UTC [+0.00]","maxLength":"50000","errorTitleMinLength":"Min: 2 characters","errorTitleSearchMinLength":"Min: 3 characters","errorTitleMaxLength":"Max: 100 characters","errorShortTextMinLength":"Min: 2 characters","errorShortTextMaxLength":"Max: 350 characters","errorAltUploadMinImageLength":"Min: 2 characters","errorAltUploadMaxImageLength":"Max: 150 characters","errorSignatureMaxLength":"Max: 360 characters","errorCountryMaxLength":"Max: 256 characters","errorClanMaxLength":"Max: 20 characters","errorPreviewRequired":"Image required","errorMaxLength":"Max length: 50 000 characters. 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though.  ","userRegistered":"1380874980000","userCommentsCount":"3817","userName":"BiohazarD","createdDate":"1515962345277","editedDate":"0","id":"442411","entityId":"94108","likesCount":"0","quotedId":"","userBanId":""},"images":{"avatar":{"href":"https://cdn-gpd-avatar.x-plarium.com/prod/2339109.jpeg?v=1667636508"}},"template_options":{"isLiked":"false","wasEdited":"false","canEdit":"false","compositeId":"442411","isDeleted":"false"},"repeaters":{}},{"links":{"authorUrl":"/en/profile/108220/","commentUrl":"/en/comment/topic_442425/"},"strings":{"userRole":"","userId":"108220","contentDraftJs":"","contentHtml":"<p>I think u dont know how to calculate !</p><p>BG is math...</p><br>If u dont have any logical argument ...please dont comment !","userRegistered":"1417057743700","userCommentsCount":"500","userName":"Mark ROMANIA","createdDate":"1515967010800","editedDate":"0","id":"442425","entityId":"94108","likesCount":"0","quotedId":"","userBanId":""},"images":{"avatar":{"href":"https://cdn-gpd-avatar.x-plarium.com/prod/b186d078-cb69-4aaf-8964-9b9ef4cfe126"}},"template_options":{"isLiked":"false","wasEdited":"false","canEdit":"false","compositeId":"442425","isDeleted":"false"},"repeaters":{}},{"links":{"authorUrl":"/en/profile/277364/","commentUrl":"/en/comment/topic_442429/"},"strings":{"userRole":"","userId":"277364","contentDraftJs":"","contentHtml":"<p>Lord Mark</p><p>could you please post ur offensive power with the 500 necros instead of the killed one?</p><p>i could try to do some maths but need the total offensive points sent</p>regards","userRegistered":"1428687025940","userCommentsCount":"1437","userName":"Juglar del Viento","createdDate":"1515968983893","editedDate":"0","id":"442429","entityId":"94108","likesCount":"0","quotedId":"","userBanId":""},"images":{"avatar":{"href":"https://cdn-gpd-avatar.x-plarium.com/prod/10023754.jpeg?v=1623093150"}},"template_options":{"isLiked":"false","wasEdited":"false","canEdit":"false","compositeId":"442429","isDeleted":"false"},"repeaters":{}},{"links":{"authorUrl":"/en/profile/108220/","commentUrl":"/en/comment/topic_442433/"},"strings":{"userRole":"","userId":"108220","contentDraftJs":"","contentHtml":"<p>Juglar del Viento said:</p><br><blockquote><p>Lord Mark</p><p>could you please post ur offensive power with the 500 necros instead of the killed one?</p><p>i could try to do some maths but need the total offensive points sent</p>regards</blockquote><p>you can see the power of 1 necro : 2820.6.</p>500 x 2820.6 = 1.410.300 mil off","userRegistered":"1417057743700","userCommentsCount":"500","userName":"Mark 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Please <a href=\"//plariumsupport.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000756905-How-can-I-improve-my-strategy-to-obtain-good-rewards-on-the-Battlegrounds-\" rel=\"nofollow ugc\" target=\"_blank\">refer to this article</a>, it can help you to solve the issue. Meanwhile, I have moved your topic to Game Discussion thread.</p>","userRegistered":"","userCommentsCount":"4521","userName":"Deleted","createdDate":"1516009392497","editedDate":"0","id":"442621","entityId":"94108","likesCount":"0","quotedId":"","userBanId":""},"images":{"avatar":{"href":"https://cdn-gpd.x-plarium.com/browser/content/forum/common/avatars/default_avatar.jpg"}},"template_options":{"isLiked":"false","wasEdited":"false","canEdit":"false","compositeId":"442621","isDeleted":"false"},"repeaters":{}},{"links":{"authorUrl":"/en/profile/108220/","commentUrl":"/en/comment/topic_442684/"},"strings":{"userRole":"","userId":"108220","contentDraftJs":"","contentHtml":"<p>Agent Pavel said:</p><br><blockquote><p>Hello, Lord!</p><p>The reported case cannot be classified as a bug since this is a part of the regular gameplay. Please <a href=\"//plariumsupport.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000756905-How-can-I-improve-my-strategy-to-obtain-good-rewards-on-the-Battlegrounds-\" rel=\"nofollow ugc\" target=\"_blank\">refer to this article</a>, it can help you to solve the issue. Meanwhile, I have moved your topic to Game Discussion thread.</p></blockquote><img src=\"//cnt-forum.plarium.com/file.bmp?g=fecadf20-5c44-41fd-9a18-e201bf9df253\"><br><br><p>U are telling me that stats dont mean anythig ? </p><p>Today is 80....tomorow more...</p><br><p>It is ''gameplay'' to mess up the mechanics...or what are u trying to say  ?</p><p><br></p>","userRegistered":"1417057743700","userCommentsCount":"500","userName":"Mark ROMANIA","createdDate":"1516014831433","editedDate":"0","id":"442684","entityId":"94108","likesCount":"0","quotedId":"","userBanId":""},"images":{"avatar":{"href":"https://cdn-gpd-avatar.x-plarium.com/prod/b186d078-cb69-4aaf-8964-9b9ef4cfe126"}},"template_options":{"isLiked":"false","wasEdited":"false","canEdit":"false","compositeId":"442684","isDeleted":"false"},"repeaters":{}},{"links":{"authorUrl":"/en/profile/277364/","commentUrl":"/en/comment/topic_442775/"},"strings":{"userRole":"","userId":"277364","contentDraftJs":"","contentHtml":"<p>Lord Mark said:</p><br><blockquote><p>I think u dont know how to calculate !</p><p>BG is math...</p><br>If u dont have any logical argument ...please dont comment !</blockquote><p>Bg fight formula is more complex than regular battles between lords so at the moment i dont know of anybody who could know it or explain it</p><p>so we can do the usual operations and try to advance from there how it works</p><p>your battle is 45-55 against balur in normal battle u should have lost the 45% and balur the 55% </p><p>on bgs if balur looses is cause he looses all his units in this case is 100% for him against ur 97%</p><p>its all i can say at this moment</p><p>Regards</p>","userRegistered":"1428687025940","userCommentsCount":"1437","userName":"Juglar del Viento","createdDate":"1516026780213","editedDate":"1516026805467","id":"442775","entityId":"94108","likesCount":"0","quotedId":"","userBanId":""},"images":{"avatar":{"href":"https://cdn-gpd-avatar.x-plarium.com/prod/10023754.jpeg?v=1623093150"}},"template_options":{"isLiked":"false","wasEdited":"true","canEdit":"false","compositeId":"442775","isDeleted":"false"},"repeaters":{}},{"links":{"authorUrl":"/en/profile/1458815/","commentUrl":"/en/comment/topic_442830/"},"strings":{"userRole":"","userId":"1458815","contentDraftJs":"","contentHtml":"Dont bother asking. For sure at the end of the discussion they will just say this matter related to each of individual player account in terms of development, level, blah...blah...and so on.  No bugs and so on. Nothing wrong with the game system. Even the smallest issue of my WOF cannot be solved rather than this. Just play your game as usual.","userRegistered":"1487603800817","userCommentsCount":"49","userName":"Chyntea ","createdDate":"1516034662817","editedDate":"0","id":"442830","entityId":"94108","likesCount":"0","quotedId":"","userBanId":""},"images":{"avatar":{"href":"https://cdn-gpd-avatar.x-plarium.com/prod/27551159.jpeg?v=1623414089"}},"template_options":{"isLiked":"false","wasEdited":"false","canEdit":"false","compositeId":"442830","isDeleted":"false"},"repeaters":{}},{"links":{"authorUrl":"/en/profile/26819/","commentUrl":"/en/comment/topic_442874/"},"strings":{"userRole":"","userId":"26819","contentDraftJs":"","contentHtml":"<p>doesn't matter BG are resources in = resources out so if you are putting in more resources then you should be getting more out ... I would assume :)</p><br><p>Also they are not broken this is my payout from this morning <a href=\"//prntscr.com/i0ug5o\" rel=\"nofollow ugc\" target=\"_blank\">http://prntscr.com/i0ug5o</a></p>","userRegistered":"1418935224990","userCommentsCount":"1835","userName":"JEZEBEL ","createdDate":"1516041449497","editedDate":"1516041540037","id":"442874","entityId":"94108","likesCount":"0","quotedId":"","userBanId":""},"images":{"avatar":{"href":"https://cdn-gpd-avatar.x-plarium.com/prod/7487102.jpeg?v=1529628091"}},"template_options":{"isLiked":"false","wasEdited":"true","canEdit":"false","compositeId":"442874","isDeleted":"false"},"repeaters":{}},{"links":{"authorUrl":"/en/profile/1313258/","commentUrl":"/en/comment/topic_442958/"},"strings":{"userRole":"","userId":"1313258","contentDraftJs":"","contentHtml":"<p>Hello,</p><p>The bonuses of the units in the battelgrounds are unknown, to my knowledge.</p><p>My calculation, with no bonuses, is:</p><br><p>828*20 + 2879*40 + 2740*180 + 6493*80 = 1,144,360</p><br><p>It's the same result that you have.</p><p>We can calculate the relative difference:</p><br><p>1362349,8/1144360 = 1.19</p><br><p>So it looks like the battlegrounds units you faced have a bonus of + 19%.</p><br><br><br><br><p>I did a fight too, and here is the result:</p><br><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img src=\"//cnt-forum.plarium.com/file.bmp?url=https%3a%2f%2fpreview.ibb.co%2fdQD3P6%2fbg.png\" alt=\"\"></p><br><br><p>My wyverns have 2181.6 offensive points.</p><p>647*2181.6 = 1411495.2</p><p>3648*240 + 4546*60 + 371*40 + 2684*20 = 1216800</p><br><p>1411495.2/1216800 = 1.16</p><br><p>For me, the opposing units have a bonus of 16%. It probably depends on the level of the battleground you are facing.</p><br><br><br><br><br><br><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img src=\"//cnt-forum.plarium.com/file.bmp?url=https%3a%2f%2fimage.ibb.co%2fg04k46%2fmarennon.png\" alt=\"\"></p><br><br><p style=\"text-align: left;\">PS: I spoke of your battle, Lord Mark, in the comments of my guide: <a href=\"//plarium.com/forum/en/stormfall-age-of-war/game-tutorials/90875_the-ultimate-guide-for-battlegrounds/\" target=\"_blank\">https://plarium.com/forum/en/stormfall-age-of-war/game-tutorials/90875_the-ultimate-guide-for-battlegrounds/</a></p>","userRegistered":"","userCommentsCount":"266","userName":"Fudgys Mickael ","createdDate":"1516053874677","editedDate":"1516061397923","id":"442958","entityId":"94108","likesCount":"0","quotedId":"","userBanId":""},"images":{"avatar":{"href":"https://cdn-gpd-avatar.x-plarium.com/prod/24362274.jpeg?v=1528883352"}},"template_options":{"isLiked":"false","wasEdited":"true","canEdit":"false","compositeId":"442958","isDeleted":"false"},"repeaters":{}},{"links":{"authorUrl":"/en/profile/1007345/","commentUrl":"/en/comment/topic_442974/"},"strings":{"userRole":"","userId":"1007345","contentDraftJs":"","contentHtml":"I always noticed if you send more then needed the game will kill more units. Been like that since I recall.","userRegistered":"1452485661417","userCommentsCount":"144","userName":"War_Ant","createdDate":"1516057685867","editedDate":"0","id":"442974","entityId":"94108","likesCount":"0","quotedId":"","userBanId":""},"images":{"avatar":{"href":"https://cdn-gpd-avatar.x-plarium.com/prod/17646760.jpeg?v=1531874249"}},"template_options":{"isLiked":"false","wasEdited":"false","canEdit":"false","compositeId":"442974","isDeleted":"false"},"repeaters":{}},{"links":{"authorUrl":"/en/profile/31141/","commentUrl":"/en/comment/topic_442994/"},"strings":{"userRole":"","userId":"31141","contentDraftJs":"","contentHtml":"<p>Lord Mark said:</p><br><blockquote><p>Agent Pavel said:</p><br><blockquote><p>Hello, Lord!</p><p>The reported case cannot be classified as a bug since this is a part of the regular gameplay. Please <a href=\"//plariumsupport.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000756905-How-can-I-improve-my-strategy-to-obtain-good-rewards-on-the-Battlegrounds-\" rel=\"nofollow ugc\" target=\"_blank\">refer to this article</a>, it can help you to solve the issue. Meanwhile, I have moved your topic to Game Discussion thread.</p></blockquote><img src=\"//cnt-forum.plarium.com/file.bmp?g=fecadf20-5c44-41fd-9a18-e201bf9df253\"><br><br><p>U are telling me that stats dont mean anythig ? </p><p>Today is 80....tomorow more...</p><br><p>It is ''gameplay'' to mess up the mechanics...or what are u trying to say  ?</p><br></blockquote><p>exactly. during certain updates bonuses are applied accidentally to BGs, other updates intentionally apply bonuses....but what are they?  we dont know. </p><br><br>","userRegistered":"1407084753440","userCommentsCount":"1364","userName":"Iron Apex","createdDate":"1516064414940","editedDate":"0","id":"442994","entityId":"94108","likesCount":"0","quotedId":"","userBanId":"75"},"images":{"avatar":{"href":"https://cdn-gpd.x-plarium.com/browser/content/portal/pirates/avatars/14.jpg"}},"template_options":{"isLiked":"false","wasEdited":"false","canEdit":"false","compositeId":"442994","isDeleted":"false"},"repeaters":{}},{"links":{"authorUrl":"/en/profile/20842/","commentUrl":"/en/comment/topic_443919/"},"strings":{"userRole":"","userId":"20842","contentDraftJs":"","contentHtml":"<p>Wish you had sent 406 Necro which should have been enough to complete the battleground with one necro surviving</p><br><p>406 Necro x 2820.6 = 1,145,164</p><br><p>Sending too many units is wasteful, same as not sending waves of infantry and cavalry first .... but it does boost the bank<br>Even so, losing 483 does seem harsh</p><br><p>It is my belief that 500 Necro attack, and then all survivors keep attacking until all balur units are dead, but we only see one battle report</p><br><img src=\"//cnt-forum.plarium.com/file.bmp?url=https%3a%2f%2fimage.prntscr.com%2fimage%2fbV1Oh4paT9anwB29TZ1UfA.png\" alt=\"\"><br>","userRegistered":"1418488719920","userCommentsCount":"1283","userName":"Snowgoon","createdDate":"1516226855683","editedDate":"1516226934800","id":"443919","entityId":"94108","likesCount":"0","quotedId":"","userBanId":""},"images":{"avatar":{"href":"https://cdn-gpd-avatar.x-plarium.com/prod/d9b060eb-15de-46ec-8136-151495469c30"}},"template_options":{"isLiked":"false","wasEdited":"true","canEdit":"false","compositeId":"443919","isDeleted":"false"},"repeaters":{}},{"links":{"authorUrl":"/en/profile/1313258/","commentUrl":"/en/comment/topic_443930/"},"strings":{"userRole":"","userId":"1313258","contentDraftJs":"","contentHtml":"<p>Hello,</p><p>I do not understand what you said, Snowgoon. Can you please re-explain what is your belief ?</p>","userRegistered":"","userCommentsCount":"266","userName":"Fudgys Mickael ","createdDate":"1516232248907","editedDate":"0","id":"443930","entityId":"94108","likesCount":"0","quotedId":"","userBanId":""},"images":{"avatar":{"href":"https://cdn-gpd-avatar.x-plarium.com/prod/24362274.jpeg?v=1528883352"}},"template_options":{"isLiked":"false","wasEdited":"false","canEdit":"false","compositeId":"443930","isDeleted":"false"},"repeaters":{}}]},"components":{}}},{"name":"wEditor","type":"wEditor","model":{"links":{},"strings":{"title":"Add title","shortText":"Add summary","buttonSave":"Post","buttonCancel":"Cancel","buttonComment":"Comment","timerTitle":"Set Post Date and Time","timerPlaceholder":"Schedule Post","buttonPreview":"Preview","timeUTC":"This post will go live using UTC [+0.00]","maxLength":"50000","errorTitleMinLength":"Min: 2 characters","errorTitleSearchMinLength":"Min: 3 characters","errorTitleMaxLength":"Max: 100 characters","errorShortTextMinLength":"Min: 2 characters","errorShortTextMaxLength":"Max: 350 characters","errorAltUploadMinImageLength":"Min: 2 characters","errorAltUploadMaxImageLength":"Max: 150 characters","errorSignatureMaxLength":"Max: 360 characters","errorCountryMaxLength":"Max: 256 characters","errorClanMaxLength":"Max: 20 characters","errorPreviewRequired":"Image required","errorMaxLength":"Max length: 50 000 characters. 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