Heya all,

This is Niko. A captain of EMPERORS league. I am writting this post cause i want to find a solution to fix the current situation of the server. The game is clearly dying, every day more n more players are stopping the game , the non coiner cannot even compete with the coiner, the weak league wont survive vs the strong league. I am trying to understand, what exactly went wrong and we are in a unique position to see only 5-8 lvl 5 beacons in the map.

Is this a plarium fault cause they cannot balance the coiner vs the non coiner ?

Is this a fault that the big leagues caused ?(Emperors, Rebels, Anarchy, KT - i am not telling about Dominus cause they are a huge league but not an aggresive one for the most of the time)

Many people are saying Beacon Massacre is the main reason for this, as you can destroy anything with low casualties.

Whatever the reason is, if we want to have fun in this game again, we, the strong leagues need to do something about this. I suggest the following:

a) All the leagues to do a nap from Beacon Hit for 2-3 months. In the duration of this time, everyone can take beacons and upgrade them (a meeting between top leagues should be done to split territory). Every league that thinks can defend a beacon after the nap will be allowed to take a beacon and gain their benefits from this.

b) Plarium need to stop doing Beacon Massacres. Every one with Vip should tell this to his/her agent. Its not something difficult.

c) In the duration of the nap everyone should be allowed to attack castles or fortresses.

d) Maybe a force limit for beacons should be put. I am really interesting to know your thoughts about this.

Best Regards, Niko

Really? I think the game is working as intended :)

Dreadnaut said:

Heya all,

This is Niko. A captain of EMPERORS league. I am writting this post cause i want to find a solution to fix the current situation of the server. The game is clearly dying, every day more n more players are stopping the game , the non coiner cannot even compete with the coiner, the weak league wont survive vs the strong league. I am trying to understand, what exactly went wrong and we are in a unique position to see only 5-8 lvl 5 beacons in the map.

Is this a plarium fault cause they cannot balance the coiner vs the non coiner ?

Is this a fault that the big leagues caused ?(Emperors, Rebels, Anarchy, KT - i am not telling about Dominus cause they are a huge league but not an aggresive one for the most of the time)

Many people are saying Beacon Massacre is the main reason for this, as you can destroy anything with low casualties.

Whatever the reason is, if we want to have fun in this game again, we, the strong leagues need to do something about this. I suggest the following:

a) All the leagues to do a nap from Beacon Hit for 2-3 months. In the duration of this time, everyone can take beacons and upgrade them (a meeting between top leagues should be done to split territory). Every league that thinks can defend a beacon after the nap will be allowed to take a beacon and gain their benefits from this.

b) Plarium need to stop doing Beacon Massacres. Every one with Vip should tell this to his/her agent. Its not something difficult.

c) In the duration of the nap everyone should be allowed to attack castles or fortresses.

d) Maybe a force limit for beacons should be put. I am really interesting to know your thoughts about this.

Best Regards, Niko

Hi Niko!

Thanks for your feedback and your suggestions. Please post these suggestions in "Suggestion thread" too - from there, they will go to devs and we'll see what will happen: https://plarium.com/forum/en/stormfall-age-of-war/suggestions/59646_your-suggestions---3/ - for b) and d)

For a) and c) you know is very hard to control your own league members sometimes but to control all major leagues, some of them even enemies is very hard thing to do...but you can try and I wish good luck with this :-)

Best regards and enjoy the game!

Bogdan

Why would they change anything? They just stuffing the wallets just like there intentions. Greed made this game still exist     

Skycooldude said:

Point D needs to happen for future of game.. No offense but I think all major leagues don't trust each other enough to go into beacons until a force limit is in place.

With diplo status (at peace, if I recall right), it is possible to use game mechanics to enforce a nap, but doing so would probably create bigger problems than it solves.  I agree that force limits are needed to keep beacons a relevant part of the game.  Beacons were intended as end game content rather than something to which every league is automatically entitled, but with the current state of the game, even the strong, endgame leagues would have a very hard time holding a beacon for any significant amount of time.

I think the game is working as intended:  lots of money flowing into Plarium's coffers.  Of course, if they do not keep long term health of the game in mind, that flow of cash will dry up as players leave.  

Dreadnaut said:

Heya all,

This is Niko. A captain of EMPERORS league. I am writting this post cause i want to find a solution to fix the current situation of the server. The game is clearly dying, every day more n more players are stopping the game , the non coiner cannot even compete with the coiner, the weak league wont survive vs the strong league. I am trying to understand, what exactly went wrong and we are in a unique position to see only 5-8 lvl 5 beacons in the map.

Is this a plarium fault cause they cannot balance the coiner vs the non coiner ?

Is this a fault that the big leagues caused ?(Emperors, Rebels, Anarchy, KT - i am not telling about Dominus cause they are a huge league but not an aggresive one for the most of the time)

Many people are saying Beacon Massacre is the main reason for this, as you can destroy anything with low casualties.

Whatever the reason is, if we want to have fun in this game again, we, the strong leagues need to do something about this. I suggest the following:

a) All the leagues to do a nap from Beacon Hit for 2-3 months. In the duration of this time, everyone can take beacons and upgrade them (a meeting between top leagues should be done to split territory). Every league that thinks can defend a beacon after the nap will be allowed to take a beacon and gain their benefits from this.

b) Plarium need to stop doing Beacon Massacres. Every one with Vip should tell this to his/her agent. Its not something difficult.

c) In the duration of the nap everyone should be allowed to attack castles or fortresses.

d) Maybe a force limit for beacons should be put. I am really interesting to know your thoughts about this.

Best Regards, Niko

Point D needs to happen for future of game.. No offense but I think all major leagues don't trust each other enough to go into beacons until a force limit is in place.

Dreadnaut said:

Heya all,

This is Niko. A captain of EMPERORS league. I am writting this post cause i want to find a solution to fix the current situation of the server. The game is clearly dying, every day more n more players are stopping the game , the non coiner cannot even compete with the coiner, the weak league wont survive vs the strong league. I am trying to understand, what exactly went wrong and we are in a unique position to see only 5-8 lvl 5 beacons in the map.

Is this a plarium fault cause they cannot balance the coiner vs the non coiner ?

Is this a fault that the big leagues caused ?(Emperors, Rebels, Anarchy, KT - i am not telling about Dominus cause they are a huge league but not an aggresive one for the most of the time)

Many people are saying Beacon Massacre is the main reason for this, as you can destroy anything with low casualties.

Whatever the reason is, if we want to have fun in this game again, we, the strong leagues need to do something about this. I suggest the following:

a) All the leagues to do a nap from Beacon Hit for 2-3 months. In the duration of this time, everyone can take beacons and upgrade them (a meeting between top leagues should be done to split territory). Every league that thinks can defend a beacon after the nap will be allowed to take a beacon and gain their benefits from this.

b) Plarium need to stop doing Beacon Massacres. Every one with Vip should tell this to his/her agent. Its not something difficult.

c) In the duration of the nap everyone should be allowed to attack castles or fortresses.

d) Maybe a force limit for beacons should be put. I am really interesting to know your thoughts about this.

Best Regards, Niko

Good luck enforcing A.  There will always be some coiner who goes and smashes any beacons they can.  

The state of the game is not a player issue to fix. Players play the game as the game mechanics allow them to. PVP in any game is its own beast and it need to feed. 

Players trying to enforce naps and agreements to allow recovery and so forth, is an illusion. Its like try put a bandage on a gashing wound. Imho the best thing you can do, is to go out there and lay waste to everything and anything, let it all burn. If you got massive armies, slaughter, pillage, burn everything, leave nothing. 

Sometimes for things to change they need to become worse, MUCH WORSE. But won't that lead to people leave the game? Possible, but people are already leaving the game. We watch friends and fellow players fade out into oblivion as it is leaving us feeling hopeless. Plarium is out of touch with their own game and the community (or what is left of it). 

Burn everything, kick everyone and anyone you can to the curb, maybe when the dust settles they possible get an eye opener, maybe to late, but I don't really see anything else players can do atm to hope for changes. 

TABULA RASA.....

At this point I am sad to say I can barely be bothered to log in anymore & only do so for the members to see an active Marshall

My defense sits on the Fortress and my offense sits in my catacombs

We have a level 14 fortress with no hopes of getting to level 20 as we would not be able to hold 5 level 5 beacons let alone one at this point in the game - those big hammers are hungry without anything to hit these days

I can't be bothered with castle wars - why would i risk my offense to hit level 6+ walls? All it takes is one bad hit and you can lose it all

Dreadnaut said:

Heya all,

This is Niko. A captain of EMPERORS league. I am writting this post cause i want to find a solution to fix the current situation of the server. The game is clearly dying, every day more n more players are stopping the game , the non coiner cannot even compete with the coiner, the weak league wont survive vs the strong league. I am trying to understand, what exactly went wrong and we are in a unique position to see only 5-8 lvl 5 beacons in the map.

Is this a plarium fault cause they cannot balance the coiner vs the non coiner ?

Is this a fault that the big leagues caused ?(Emperors, Rebels, Anarchy, KT - i am not telling about Dominus cause they are a huge league but not an aggresive one for the most of the time)

Many people are saying Beacon Massacre is the main reason for this, as you can destroy anything with low casualties.

Whatever the reason is, if we want to have fun in this game again, we, the strong leagues need to do something about this. I suggest the following:

a) All the leagues to do a nap from Beacon Hit for 2-3 months. In the duration of this time, everyone can take beacons and upgrade them (a meeting between top leagues should be done to split territory). Every league that thinks can defend a beacon after the nap will be allowed to take a beacon and gain their benefits from this.

b) Plarium need to stop doing Beacon Massacres. Every one with Vip should tell this to his/her agent. Its not something difficult.

c) In the duration of the nap everyone should be allowed to attack castles or fortresses.

d) Maybe a force limit for beacons should be put. I am really interesting to know your thoughts about this.

Best Regards, Niko

lol that's fresh coming from the league that hit everyone and everything for as long as they could & even dropped alliances so they could hit them for PVP

Hello all!

Thanks for your feedback and thoughts you shared in this topic. 

I know that Beacons is a very discussed topic right now, and I agree that adding an attack limit is the thing we should have on plarium.com as well as it's already present on FB and some other our games.

The thing is that from my end all I can do regarding this question is to forward your feedback to devs.

I did it a few weeks ago and reminded them of it this week. They said they don't come up with the decision on this question yet, but will do it soon.

So, once I have any news about this attack limits question, I'll let you know.

As for Massacre, I know that in the near future devs don't plan to change it or remove. When this Tournament was added, it was run more often, but now its frequency already reduced. No other changes are planned for now.

roadstar Pitbull said:

There is only one way to get the attention and actions you are all seeking from Plarium, but you will not see the change.

Follow me, off to other worlds, new experiences, new friends.

As the funds dry up from one, they will shift focus to the next and the next. (Reminder they have another new mobile coming out)....So Plarium is not going anywhere or going to do any drastic changes. just lure in the next round of cash cows....

https://plarium.com/forum/en/stormfall-age-of-war/-news-and-announcements/89577_the-world-of-stormfall-is-expanding--and-we-need-you--2/

At this point I am sad to say I can barely be bothered to log in anymore & only do so for the members to see an active Marshall

My defense sits on the Fortress and my offense sits in my catacombs

We have a level 14 fortress with no hopes of getting to level 20 as we would not be able to hold 5 level 5 beacons let alone one at this point in the game - those big hammers are hungry without anything to hit these days

I can't be bothered with castle wars - why would i risk my offense to hit level 6+ walls? All it takes is one bad hit and you can lose it all

Jezebel said:

lol that's fresh coming from the league that hit everyone and everything for as long as they could & even dropped alliances so they could hit them for PVP

and if history repeated itself Emps would never keep their word on a NAP Agreement

Dunno what was happening with Shin, if he kept his words or not and i dont care about this. In the last 10 beacon massacres Emps didnt participate as it is a worthless tourney, One of the few times we did it, it was a very Smart move to weaken your beacon and then kill it off massacre. Yeah i know that destiny was clearly and still is upset about being outplayed so hard, but try to be real and realise that KT, Anarchy and Rebels did the same exact thing or even worse than us cause at least Emperors were killing things without any revival for free option that beacon massacre provide

Dreadnaut said:

Jezebel said:

lol that's fresh coming from the league that hit everyone and everything for as long as they could & even dropped alliances so they could hit them for PVP

and if history repeated itself Emps would never keep their word on a NAP Agreement

Dunno what was happening with Shin, if he kept his words or not and i dont care about this. In the last 10 beacon massacres Emps didnt participate as it is a worthless tourney, One of the few times we did it, it was a very Smart move to weaken your beacon and then kill it off massacre. Yeah i know that destiny was clearly and still is upset about being outplayed so hard, but try to be real and realise that KT, Anarchy and Rebels did the same exact thing or even worse than us cause at least Emperors were killing things without any revival for free option that beacon massacre provide

Players doing PVP in a pvp game.. Terrible! :p

Dreadnaut said:

Yeah i know that destiny was clearly and still is upset about being outplayed so hard

I think the words you were looking for were "outspent so hard". Just to sprinkle some reality on the discussion.

Dreadnaut said:

Jezebel said:

lol that's fresh coming from the league that hit everyone and everything for as long as they could & even dropped alliances so they could hit them for PVP

and if history repeated itself Emps would never keep their word on a NAP Agreement

Dunno what was happening with Shin, if he kept his words or not and i dont care about this. In the last 10 beacon massacres Emps didnt participate as it is a worthless tourney, One of the few times we did it, it was a very Smart move to weaken your beacon and then kill it off massacre. Yeah i know that destiny was clearly and still is upset about being outplayed so hard, but try to be real and realise that KT, Anarchy and Rebels did the same exact thing or even worse than us cause at least Emperors were killing things without any revival for free option that beacon massacre provide

The Destiny that was is not the Destiny that is - 95% of the leadership that was existent then is not in Destiny anymore they foreseen the future of the game or had better things to do and quit or have left for other leagues (2 other Destiny Captains moved to my league shortly after I created it).  So no I don't think "Destiny" really cares since current leadership won't let their members poke at  Emps.  Not to mention that Emps takes too much credit for taking the one Destiny beacon since Ratcoms softened it for you and took MOST of the losses even with the 90% revival they lost way more than you did.  Ratcoms had good reason so I can't blame them for doing it.

@OP, I think the responses are pretty clear:

You're not an honest broker for a nap in the opinion of several leagues.  The other changes you propose have more to do with Plarium than the players.  If it happens, fine.  If not, our strategy doesn't change.

Alina Phoenix said:

roadstar Pitbull said:

There is only one way to get the attention and actions you are all seeking from Plarium, but you will not see the change.

Follow me, off to other worlds, new experiences, new friends.

As the funds dry up from one, they will shift focus to the next and the next. (Reminder they have another new mobile coming out)....So Plarium is not going anywhere or going to do any drastic changes. just lure in the next round of cash cows....

https://plarium.com/forum/en/stormfall-age-of-war/-news-and-announcements/89577_the-world-of-stormfall-is-expanding--and-we-need-you--2/

The "other worlds", refers to other games....

And again, i will never play another plarium game,,, of any sort.