The main reason why there is unbalance in defense vs offense is because of unit power statistics and imbalance in boost. Normally in PvP games a force limit of 250 000 should make it impossible for a successful offensive mission against a defender, e.g it should be 1:1. But because in these game, unit power of offense unit is tremendously stronger than that of defense, that ratio becomes something like 3:1. An example is a pathfinder whith basic power 75 vs hunter of 15. 

These means when the relics, boost and upgrades are applied, the pathfinder kind of upgrade, getting better stats while the Hunter gets weaker. The only way of fixing these is to balance the units basic power points, and introduce better relics for defense( eg 100% boost to dead dragons). 

Defense right now is absolutely useless in the game, unless you're defending in your castle. 

when we couldn't see bular force in BG, defense was kind of usefull, But now even playing defense BG is redundant( you have to build longer, you have to use less resources=terrible banking). 

Many have already seen this screenshot so, after what's been said above I'll leave this here...

Mad Roy said:

Many have already seen this screenshot so, after what's been said above I'll leave this here...

(most epic Hamlet battle that this game has ever seen)

LoL, why are you hiding the name. I mean we ALL know who that is, so why hide his name.

But these is what is supposed to happen

Mad Roy said:

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LoL, why are you hiding the name. I mean we ALL know who that is, so why hide his name.

Mad Roy said:

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But these is what is supposed to happen

Mad Roy said:

Wasn't sure if it was against the forum rules to expose screenshots from players that involves their identity, since I see many times coordinates and names censored here.

I was Oracle him/it self that was editing peoples posts and pictures because they had peoples name/coords in them. And now says why did you edit it?

There is no DEFENSE force limit on hamlets.

Mad Roy said:

Wasn't sure if it was against the forum rules to expose screenshots from players that involves their identity, since I see many times coordinates and names censored here.

it against forum rules to expose players, and ingame location to attacks. The enforcement of the rules is in line with forum rule 1.5, 3.3, 6.1, which is normally enforced in line with 3.4.

The rules have been edited, and the old version incorporated into many rules. Interpretation of the rule is always in line with 3.4. eg Screenshots are not deleted, but edited. Eg Lord Oberon editing out UE fort location when it went to level 20 (after complaint). Sometimes the locations and the post are deleted, like when Player A ask the community to attack Player B, an action which incite bullying. 

But names are never edited out, unless they violate 3.4 itself eg calling a league chickens in a offensive way. So you shouldn't edit names out 

WorldWar3 said:

There is no DEFENSE force limit on hamlets.

You can have any amount of defense at the hamlets , if you wanted to

He means unit limit

Mad Roy said:

Many have already seen this screenshot so, after what's been said above I'll leave this here...

(most epic Hamlet battle that this game has ever seen)

Both offense and defense is way over the force limits. just with the offense is close to 320000 force when it should be 250000.

So how is this possible?

Something is not right. 

it looks like the force limits are not being in forced.

Techway_GrandMarshal said:

Both offense and defense is way over the force limits. just with the offense is close to 320000 force when it should be 250000.

So how is this possible?

Something is not right. 

it looks like the force limits are not being in forced.

Or am I wrong? Can anyone else confirm those numbers has going well over the force limits?

Force limits are just unit number. So both side are adhering to the unit limit. 

naturally the basic maximum force limit using dragons is 1 680 * 250 000= 420 000 000( four hundred twenty million), when bonuses, relics, boosts and lost arts upgrades are applied that becomes almost a billion. 

Techway_GrandMarshal said:

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Force limits are just unit number. So both side are adhering to the unit limit. 

naturally the basic maximum force limit using dragons is 1 680 * 250 000= 420 000 000( four hundred twenty million), when bonuses, relics, boosts and lost arts upgrades are applied that becomes almost a billion. 

djmoody said:

Oracle said:

Techway_GrandMarshal said:

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And of course it could be more if your food consumption bonuses are good allowing you to send more troops within the power can.

Food consumption bonuses don't affect the force points of the troops, those equal the base food consumption of each unit no matter what bonuses you have on, only thing that changes the base food consumption is darkening.

Base food consumption and force points get reduced by 50% when darkening defensive or spy units, for offensive units it's a 30% decrease.

Will leave here a list of force points per troop, although they're useful just for big armies people.

Funny thing in theory you could send 1000000 ice dragons to anything without caring about any force limit xD

Oracle said:

Techway_GrandMarshal said:

Both offense and defense is way over the force limits. just with the offense is close to 320000 force when it should be 250000.

So how is this possible?

Something is not right. 

it looks like the force limits are not being in forced.

Or am I wrong? Can anyone else confirm those numbers has going well over the force limits?

Force limits are just unit number. So both side are adhering to the unit limit. 

naturally the basic maximum force limit using dragons is 1 680 * 250 000= 420 000 000( four hundred twenty million), when bonuses, relics, boosts and lost arts upgrades are applied that becomes almost a billion. 

It's based on the food consumption of the units.

People can have all sorts of consumptions boosts but keeping it easy. 

-Darken dragon eats 3 food as a baseline. 

- Force limit of say 250k means max food consumption of sent army is 250k. 

- That means 83.3k dark dragons. 

- Power wise that could be anywhere between 2k and over 8k per dragon depending on the players boosts and bonuses. 

- You could be up to 600/700m. If you had coined a load of GWD to go with you 80k+ darkened dragons then even more.

And of course it could be more if your food consumption bonuses are good allowing you to send more troops within the power can.

Techway_GrandMarshal said:

Mad Roy said:

Many have already seen this screenshot so, after what's been said above I'll leave this here...

(most epic Hamlet battle that this game has ever seen)

Both offense and defense is way over the force limits. just with the offense is close to 320000 force when it should be 250000.

So how is this possible?

Something is not right. 

it looks like the force limits are not being in forced.

Or am I wrong? Can anyone else confirm those numbers has going well over the force limits?

The attacker can only send 250k force, and it looks like that attack was right at that limit.