They say a picture tells a thousand tales. This picture below if from Server 1, which according to Plarium is the most active server. It shows how players are interacting with Champions.

This picture can only mean one thing. 

1. Champions are still an elitist future with few players engaging in them.
   
   
   Or 
   
   
   
2. the game has less than 5000 players left. 

Oracle said:

They say a picture tells a thousand tales. This picture below if from Server 1, which according to Plarium is the most active server. It shows how players are interacting with Champions.

This picture can only mean one thing. 

1. Champions are still an elitist future with few players engaging in them.
   
   
   Or 
   
   
   
2. the game has less than 5000 players left. 

In the same champion event, one player scored 160 million points. While the 100th player scored 24 million points. So you are probably wrong, champions are an elitist feature, and very coiner based. 

each time a good thing talked about or a thanks is cited u talk about game  coming to an end.

ur  statement is completely incorrect !

while,no one can deny some coining and a few coiners being on top but even that much can be done without coining ! as a matter of fact this in itself provides a situation in which non coiners can gain some emeralds too

open bonds and sacrifice with income resources

1.now u can store up to 10k bonds !

a. to increase ur bond receiving chance u need to increase ur shrine of summoning

b. increase ur champion slot to 300 (optional)

2.u can store unlimited amount of resources

a.now with battle pass aside from ur raid resources at the end of each month u receive the same amount of resources

b. increase a warehouse and a barn to max (optional)

u sacrifice ur free bonds u have gained in a while,u get xp along with some good amount of saphs

this is how it helps even non coiners ! this is one of the few things almost everyone is in agreement

i have so many bonds and so much resources,thats why im not worried even if my emeralds runs out ! this brings me to my last point ! 

champions are great but mixing them is just alot of work.i know for a fact half my league isnt doing this.cause well mixing champions takes so much time.

champions related events provide opportunities for non coiners more than anything in game

u gain emeralds the way i said

and u gain orbs the way dj moody thanked plarium for !

fURY said:

champions related events provide opportunities for non coiners more than anything in game

u gain emeralds the way i said

and u gain orbs the way dj moody thanked plarium for !

coiners are everywhere in every category,not just champions,but here u get a chance to compete

The amount of champions you need to sacrifice in order to earn 160 million points is over 30 000. Even if the players started the tournament with a complete set of 300 level 3 champions, it will be impossible to get 160 million points without spending thousands of emeralds buying champions.  

So which opportunities does this tournament I mentioned here, and which DJ Moody Praise, provide to non coiners? Are you suggesting that players I have highlighted are non coiners?

coiners are everywhere in every category,not just champions,but here u get a chance to compete

You don't get a chance to compete, you get a chance to click. You don't get a chance to win, you get a chance to play. I am not saying Champions are not fun, they are fun. But they are not completely "Free to Play"

fURY said:

each time a good thing talked about or a thanks is cited u talk about game  coming to an end.

I didn't say the game is coming to an end. I said there are not probably not many people playing champions. Since there are not many people playing champions, then not many people like Champions. 

when is the community manager going to give feedback about this feature? 

Oracle said:

fURY said:

The amount of champions you need to sacrifice in order to earn 160 million points is over 30 000. Even if the players started the tournament with a complete set of 300 level 3 champions, it will be impossible to get 160 million points without spending thousands of emeralds buying champions.  

So which opportunities does this tournament I mentioned here, and which DJ Moody Praise, provide to non coiners? Are you suggesting that players I have highlighted are non coiners?

You don't get a chance to compete, you get a chance to click. You don't get a chance to win, you get a chance to play. I am not saying Champions are not fun, they are fun. But they are not completely "Free to Play"

this was a week long event,held once a month ! i,having champs on autohunt only,non consistently had 20 mil points

what dj moody mentioned is up there,its very beautifully explained,u didnt need to ask me, but okay,here it is,u get free orbs for which u normally have to buy 50 dollar packs for.what more friendlier u want than this to players like us ..

thats not all,we have guaranteed events ! in which we get orange champions(grade 5) for sure

then again u didnt get a chance to get oranges ? u open 2 holy bond,u get one back.u dnt have holy bonds,open epics and get holy bonds

let me say again ! u can win in weekly,but that was not my point.my point was that even that feature is helpful for people to get emeralds.

still a topic was formed and answered and explained by so many people,its on how that works and related to this topic so ill leave u the post to have a look.

u can find it here. 

a friend been to top 3 that way,so its possible,the weekly one not the one u sent snapshots for ! which was not my point of discussion to begin with

Oracle said:

So which opportunities does this tournament I mentioned here, and which DJ Moody Praise, provide to non coiners? Are you suggesting that players I have highlighted are non coiners?

It's easy to complete the Grand Chanps event without spending a penny. It's just a tiny bit of champs training, hardly more than loading up one decent hunt each day it's on (it runs for 7 days).

If someone can't complete that event w/o resorting to coining then they really can't be considered active in my opinion.

As an example I completed the event on 8 accounts this time. Previously I used to do all 13 of my main accounts but holy bonds are a lot more readily available now so didn't put in as much effort as in the past this time.

Don't get me wrong, I'll campaign all day to bring better balance and move away from the overpowering advantage money has been given in Stormfall.

But an easy to complete event that gives out holy bonds isn't in the benefit of coiners, it's a win win for all the F2P and sensible hobby level spenders.

Btw I really didn't have event at the front of my mind when i wrote the post, It's x2 and guaranteed champs, in combination with monthly moon quests and the 2 for 1 bond back events that have really changed the face of champions from something only people willing to spend $3/4k will have to something any active player can earn.

Well I didn't spend a penny On that event  just quite a bit of time  It got me to 23rd in the rankings  I would've gotten better rank if I had used more of My bonds in the sacrifice to Advance champions more  but I thought I might save them for another day.  maybe next time :)

And I think if not many people liked Champions  then they would all be here telling us that ! 

I was  happy to see a post  pointing out a positive subject 

As most  times it seems Players only come here to post when something goes wrong.

From what I see many people Love the champions when they understand how much they can boost their Gameplay.

fURY said:

each time a good thing talked about or a thanks is cited u talk about game  coming to an end.

I didn't say the game is coming to an end. I said there are not probably not many people playing champions. Since there are not many people playing champions, then not many people like Champions. 

when is the community manager going to give feedback about this feature? 

Limad said:

It kinda feels like your real motivation here is to find out how many active players there are in the game. So why try to shoe-horn it into a thread about Champs? You could have just replied to the thread you linked and left it at that. 

this topic wont end 

Wesley Pringle said:

Well I didn't spend a penny On that event  just quite a bit of time  It got me to 23rd in the rankings  I would've gotten better rank if I had used more of My bonds in the sacrifice to Advance champions more  but I thought I might save them for another day.  maybe next time :)

And I think if not many people liked Champions  then they would all be here telling us that ! 

I was  happy to see a post  pointing out a positive subject 

As most  times it seems Players only come here to post when something goes wrong.

From what I see many people Love the champions when they understand how much they can boost their Gameplay.

 

I don't want to deflect on this thread topic, and I do understand the 'new' content change this 'feature' brings.

The coining aspect aside,which can be somewhat negated,like most things here. 

When the games become dependent on mounts/heroes/champions it loses interest for some, myself included. The bonus' and attributes stray from the strategy gameplay. I understand some may see it as an additional strategy, but the focus shifts from 'real' troops to all the added attributes is not for me. Now I have dabbled with it  and have still upon occasion run them to give it a fair? try.

But overall it keeps the game 'fresh' for most and gives the players something to do I suppose, so it can't be all bad.

Oracle said:

fURY said:

champions related events provide opportunities for non coiners more than anything in game

u gain emeralds the way i said

and u gain orbs the way dj moody thanked plarium for !

coiners are everywhere in every category,not just champions,but here u get a chance to compete

The amount of champions you need to sacrifice in order to earn 160 million points is over 30 000. Even if the players started the tournament with a complete set of 300 level 3 champions, it will be impossible to get 160 million points without spending thousands of emeralds buying champions.  

So which opportunities does this tournament I mentioned here, and which DJ Moody Praise, provide to non coiners? Are you suggesting that players I have highlighted are non coiners?

coiners are everywhere in every category,not just champions,but here u get a chance to compete

You don't get a chance to compete, you get a chance to click. You don't get a chance to win, you get a chance to play. I am not saying Champions are not fun, they are fun. But they are not completely "Free to Play"

If you upgrade the Shrine of Summoning to level 20 (which can be done fairly easily using sapphires from tournaments to buy sketches during discount) you can train champs profitably, meaning your emeralds will go up just from doing training.  I have nearly 50k emeralds just from doing this, without having ever bought an emerald pack. 

Alina said:

Oracle said:

fURY said:

each time a good thing talked about or a thanks is cited u talk about game  coming to an end.

I didn't say the game is coming to an end. I said there are not probably not many people playing champions. Since there are not many people playing champions, then not many people like Champions. 

when is the community manager going to give feedback about this feature? 

Hello! Though the name and the avatar is almost the same, this was my colleague's reply  Could you please share a link to this thread with me? Thanks in advance!

The community manager promised to ask developers to implement this feature here

https://plarium.com/forum/en/stormfall-age-of-war/51_game-discussion/100574_how-many-people-are-actually-playing--/

The topic was closed before she got to tell us what happened.  I think this feature will benefit us since some aspects of the game are depended on the number of players online. Like opening a Holy bond, and taking a beacon. 

It will be nice to know how this ended. Especially since we will be playing on Plarium Play from now on. 

If you upgrade the Shrine of Summoning to level 20 (which can be done fairly easily using sapphires from tournaments to buy sketches during discount) you can train champs profitably, meaning your emeralds will go up just from doing training.  I have nearly 50k emeralds just from doing this, without having ever bought an emerald pack. 

Anybody willing to put in some effort can score high in the champion tourneys.  

Oracle said:

BiohazarD said:

If you upgrade the Shrine of Summoning to level 20 (which can be done fairly easily using sapphires from tournaments to buy sketches during discount) you can train champs profitably, meaning your emeralds will go up just from doing training.  I have nearly 50k emeralds just from doing this, without having ever bought an emerald pack. 

Anybody willing to put in some effort can score high in the champion tourneys.  

We both know that you have an income in the game. From that income alone, you also receive 4500-6500 sapphires from the brawl, plus other league tournaments, and Solo PvP tournaments. You get about 17 000-25 0000 sapphires per week. Maybe more. So you probably don't get how expensive it is to upgrade the Shrine. Especially when you didn't play the game since 2018. And most players are just getting back. 

I'm Not sure what the point you were trying to make here or What most Players you are talking about ?  There are far more players playing that never left the game in My opinion.

 It almost looks like you're complaining That the those that stayed and worked on their castles and helped build their leagues to the point that they get extra advantages above those that left and Have come back and are in smaller leagues now.

I'm sorry but isn't that the point of this game  to help your league or leagues  and have them advance to the point where the whole league is rewarded for the years it has taken them to grow into the status that they have achieved?  

I find any perks received are warranted and deserved by those they have stuck to it  through thick and thin. 

That goes also for the champs events  all those leagues that have excelled did so because as a league they have worked together to earn whatever advantages they may have .

Oracle said:

BiohazarD said:

If you upgrade the Shrine of Summoning to level 20 (which can be done fairly easily using sapphires from tournaments to buy sketches during discount) you can train champs profitably, meaning your emeralds will go up just from doing training.  I have nearly 50k emeralds just from doing this, without having ever bought an emerald pack. 

Anybody willing to put in some effort can score high in the champion tourneys.  

We both know that you have an income in the game. From that income alone, you also receive 4500-6500 sapphires from the brawl, plus other league tournaments, and Solo PvP tournaments. You get about 17 000-25 0000 sapphires per week. Maybe more. So you probably don't get how expensive it is to upgrade the Shrine. Especially when you didn't play the game since 2018. And most players are just getting back. 

this is making things personal !

i dnt know how he has an income ,i dnt,so dnt many others ! 

u asked about champions i,and few others gave u good reasons its possible

then u talked about emeralds,there it is,up there .free emeralds and how to

the rest of what u do is just complaining and its not even fair ! if it was just complain,im used to it ! almost everybody is ,but its not only complaining but also not fair too

u can join a good performing league and claim good saphires too.u dnt take action and also expect to just have everything upgraded ?

im honestly in loss of words and just dnt know what to say now

This topic is going to stray off topic on and on. I have no issues with Bio, and I don't want to have any. And my comment was innocent. 

DJ said champions are great. I said they are not, because the majority of people who enjoy are coiners. Coiners are the ones that get to win champion tournaments, and coiners are the ones that have a complete set of grade 5 champions. 

Then Fury and Bio interjected by saying champions get to be "Free" when you upgrade the Shrine. 

Then I replied that its too expensive t upgrade the Shrine without coining. 

It could be very easy to upgrade the shrine when you are in a big league. True, but being in a good league shouldn't be the only factor when it comes to champions. 

Anyway, this topic is getting too hot. As for Bio, you know what I meant by my comment. I will not engage in this topic anymore. 

Oracle said:

DJ said champions are great. I said they are not, because the majority of people who enjoy are coiners. Coiners are the ones that get to win champion tournaments, and coiners are the ones that have a complete set of grade 5 champions. 

Just to be clear. 

I didn't say "champs are great".

I said the new champs related events were much appreciated, because they had turned champs from shop only content for mega coiners to something people could earn in game and therefore anyone active now could aspire to a full set of champs.

I am getting a bit fed up of being constantly misquoted by everyone tbh.

As a side note on the summoning buildings. You only need to get it to lvl 14 to increase the drop rate of bonds to break even (i.e. you won't run out of bonds from continual champs training any more). Lvl 14 is not that expensive and something anyone priotising their free sapphires onto the "right" things can readily achieve.

If you do that and bag all the free emeralds & recharge orbs that are available from events you can run significant champ training for free without costing yourself any emeralds (you can rank 7 a champ in around a month w/o spending money).