fURY said:

i feel like champion summoning bond events are either slow,or with each new ones turning up,mostly useless one or anywways,each time with each reset in system they go back to the ones we already had a try

things we know

1.we had one in 3 bonds event repeated on Brigadier and some others 

2.one week we have 2x chance and one sure in 3 bond event the next week

3.there are no useless champions,but based in each players' game most champions can be useless for most

4.there are some certain champions everyone wants

5.some players will never be satisfied

each time i want to post a suggestion some troll come online and do what they usually do

so this time i had this idea,what should we suggest to plarium for a champion summoning bond ? 

i wanted to make a suggestion asking plarium for a better champion summoning event,so thought to ask here for u guys' ideas too !!! ill try to mix in everyone's' preferences then post a suggestion.so its open table if anyone has any good ideas for a good event ??

lets see if we can think of something that everyone,at least most majority would like

Hi, I believe that the samples must never be repeated until the whole round is over (I answer to 1).

2. My idea (I don't know if plarium will support me) is to make a calendar with "June 28 = knight" (this is obviously an example). I don't know if plarum will like it because she likes a little randomness. But in my opinion it is right to let us know what day the champion we want will arrive.

3. I fully agree, I have some class V champions that I use twice a month (for the tower).

5. I agree, but I hope that many will write their suggestions and that they won't complain too much :-)

I raised a suggestion. Agree or disagree as you see fit. 

https://plarium.com/forum/en/stormfall-age-of-war/451_suggestions/199162_guaranteed-champ-event/

Dede said:

fURY said:

Hi, I believe that the samples must never be repeated until the whole round is over (I answer to 1).

2. My idea (I don't know if plarium will support me) is to make a calendar with "June 28 = knight" (this is obviously an example). I don't know if plarum will like it because she likes a little randomness. But in my opinion it is right to let us know what day the champion we want will arrive.

3. I fully agree, I have some class V champions that I use twice a month (for the tower).

5. I agree, but I hope that many will write their suggestions and that they won't complain too much :-)

thanks for ur ideas. its really appreciated. also the whole point of this topic is to understand each other so we get enough support from everyone for when plarium will listen.so dnt ever say plarium wont listen.we get so much support plarium will surely listen,dnt worry about that part

calendar << this idea of urs,i think there already is a calendar.u will understand this more as i explain riverse midas's post .its not complete yet,but there is one

Reverse Midas said:

I raised a suggestion. Agree or disagree as you see fit. 

https://plarium.com/forum/en/stormfall-age-of-war/451_suggestions/199162_guaranteed-champ-event/

i read ur post but i will follow it here so we dnt lose track of this post. here is ur post and i want an understanding between everyone before we start a suggestion

edit : its interesting that u might start a suggestion when we started this.i just noticed the timing.anyways here is ur suggestion

Reverse Midas said:

Can we just go back to the old method before SH Champs were released? For each event a different Champ was on offer. It's that simple, just cycle through the list of champs every event. Don't offer the same champ In subsequent events. 

few things u might have not noticed

we are on that old cycle 

its just that every time a new champion is introduced that champion cuts in line of the old champs

remember when cavalier was introduced ? it cut in line of old champion selection ! that week we had cavalier in 1 in 3 event

and just like that we now have these SH champions as u put it cut in line

I AGREE WITH U 

but even then there is only one champion remaining in SH champions cycle ( foreman or headman,dnt remember which that is one week event) so after that whether we suggest it or that week is over we will Go to normal order anyways

when u talk about repetitive champions on events,its just a system error,after resetting due to some new features ! this made me angry too,but it happens,they didnt fix it,they dnt fix it but it was an error in game

as i said many times before u can always test a hypotheses,how do we do that ? easy,this event will be a headman or foreman ! the only remaining champion from SH cycle which cut in the line of the old champions

this post isnt going anywhere,we are not going anywhere. if we have a headman or foreman( if rogot which one we had before as i have grade 5 of both) then u will see the cycle is still on.

and also as this is the last one in SH champions it should resume champion selection on old system where it left off

i really hope after u saw my reasons u dnt make it personal,as its not just me here.we are deciding on future of the game here rivesre midas.beyond this if uv got any good suggestion or ideas ill take note in my suggestion

fURY said:

we are on that old cycle.....

There is no evidence of this.

The official Plarium statement made by CM is that they have switched from cycling the champs and are now prioritising the ones people want the most (although they are messing it up as they don't seem to understand the ones people actuallly want).

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In terms of suggestions:

1. Return to predictable old cycle (headman, foreman presumably then back to the very start)

There is actually a problem with this. There are now 20 champs. Plarium ran the event only once this month (although sometimes it has been every 2 weeks).

It will take nearly a year to cycle through the champs. Some of the ones people want the most like beacon off/def, were right at the end of the cycle. It's too long to reasonable wait I think.

Hence I am gonna make a few other suggestions.

2. Double speed cycle

Same as 1. above but ensuring the event is run every 2 weeks (cuts the full cycle time to just under half a year).

Alternative way to speed it up if they don't want to run every 2 weeks, would be to run 2 champs within the same event. E.g. if the event runs for 2 days then 1 champ on the first day and 1 champ on the 2nd day.

Problem, may get some ppl disappointed with day 2 champ, if they used all their bonds on day 1.

3. Choice of Champs

Addressing the problem from 3. ...... assume it has to be one event per month but you get the choice of 2 champs, where you can lock 1 of them in for the event.

I don't expect them to give us masses of choice e.g. select whatever you want. But if you could select one of two champs for the event, then this would halve the cycle, addressing all problems noted above.

4. Poll for most popular champs

If they really do want to offer the most popular champs but are getting it wrong because the analysts are making mistake. Run a poll here to get the correct popularity of champs.

Only problem is that there are very few ppl here these days, so sample size may not be representative of the whole player base and or could be hijacked by ppl with specific agenda.

But if they are gonna stick with most popular then it will be better to ask the players, as the analysts clearly don't know what they are doing.

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By the way the combination of bonus event (extra bond for epic and holy used), orb event, lunar event is really great. Would want any changes to the guaranteed champ event to break that.

fURY said:

we are on that old cycle.....

There is no evidence of this.

The official Plarium statement made by CM is that they have switched from cycling the champs and are now prioritising the ones people want the most (although they are messing it up as they don't seem to understand the ones people actuallly want).

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In terms of suggestions:

1. Return to predictable old cycle (headman, foreman presumably then back to the very start)

There is actually a problem with this. There are now 20 champs. Plarium ran the event only once this month (although sometimes it has been every 2 weeks).

It will take nearly a year to cycle through the champs. Some of the ones people want the most like beacon off/def, were right at the end of the cycle. It's too long to reasonable wait I think.

Hence I am gonna make a few other suggestions.

2. Double speed cycle

Same as 1. above but ensuring the event is run every 2 weeks (cuts the full cycle time to just under half a year).

Alternative way to speed it up if they don't want to run every 2 weeks, would be to run 2 champs within the same event. E.g. if the event runs for 2 days then 1 champ on the first day and 1 champ on the 2nd day.

Problem, may get some ppl disappointed with day 2 champ, if they used all their bonds on day 1.

3. Choice of Champs

Addressing the problem from 3. ...... assume it has to be one event per month but you get the choice of 2 champs, where you can lock 1 of them in for the event.

I don't expect them to give us masses of choice e.g. select whatever you want. But if you could select one of two champs for the event, then this would halve the cycle, addressing all problems noted above.

4. Poll for most popular champs

If they really do want to offer the most popular champs but are getting it wrong because the analysts are making mistake. Run a poll here to get the correct popularity of champs.

Only problem is that there are very few ppl here these days, so sample size may not be representative of the whole player base and or could be hijacked by ppl with specific agenda.

But if they are gonna stick with most popular then it will be better to ask the players, as the analysts clearly don't know what they are doing.

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By the way the combination of bonus event (extra bond for epic and holy used), orb event, lunar event is really great. Would want any changes to the guaranteed champ event to break that.

BiohazarD ha detto:

Kings Guard ha detto:

FURY ha detto:

siamo su quel vecchio ciclo .....

Non ci sono prove di questo.

La dichiarazione ufficiale di Plarium fatta da CM è che sono passati dal ciclismo agli Champs e ora stanno dando la priorità a quelli che la gente desidera di più (anche se lo stanno incasinando perché non sembrano capire quelli che la gente vuole effettivamente).

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In termini di suggerimenti:

1. Ritorna al vecchio ciclo prevedibile (preside, caposquadra presumibilmente poi di nuovo all'inizio)

In realtà c'è un problema con questo. Adesso ci sono 20 champs. Plarium ha organizzato l'evento solo una volta questo mese (anche se a volte è stato ogni 2 settimane).

Ci vorrà quasi un anno per scorrere i campioni. Alcune di quelle persone che vogliono il più simile a beacon off / def, erano proprio alla fine del ciclo. Penso che sia troppo lungo per aspettare ragionevole.

Quindi farò alcuni altri suggerimenti.

2. Doppio ciclo di velocità

Come sopra 1. ma assicurando che l'evento si svolga ogni 2 settimane (riduce l'intero ciclo a poco meno di sei mesi).

Un modo alternativo per accelerarlo se non vogliono correre ogni 2 settimane sarebbe quello di eseguire 2 champs nello stesso evento. Ad esempio, se l'evento dura 2 giorni, 1 campione il primo giorno e 1 campione il 2 ° giorno.

Problema, potrebbe rimanere deluso dal campione del secondo giorno, se hanno usato tutti i loro legami il primo giorno.

3. Scelta dei campioni

Affrontare il problema dal 3. ...... supponiamo che debba essere un evento al mese, ma puoi scegliere tra 2 champs, in cui puoi bloccarne uno per l'evento.

Non mi aspetto che ci diano masse di scelta, ad esempio selezionare quello che vuoi. Ma se potessi selezionare uno dei due campioni per l'evento, ciò dimezzerebbe il ciclo, risolvendo tutti i problemi sopra menzionati.

4. Sondaggio per i campioni più popolari

Se vogliono davvero offrire i campioni più popolari ma stanno sbagliando perché gli analisti stanno sbagliando. Esegui un sondaggio qui per ottenere la corretta popolarità dei campioni.

L'unico problema è che al giorno d'oggi ci sono pochissimi ppl qui, quindi la dimensione del campione potrebbe non essere rappresentativa dell'intera base di giocatori e potrebbe essere dirottata da ppl con agenda specifica.

Ma se rimarranno con i più popolari, allora sarà meglio chiedere ai giocatori, poiché gli analisti chiaramente non sanno cosa stanno facendo.

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A proposito, la combinazione di evento bonus (legame extra per epico e santo usato), evento orb, evento lunare è davvero grande. Vorrei che qualsiasi modifica all'evento del campione garantito lo interrompesse.

Stavo pensando a qualcosa di simile, potrebbero modificare l'evento in modo che ogni giocatore debba scegliere tra 2 o 3 campioni quello che desidera. Ciò farebbe andare il ciclo molto più velocemente.  

I completely agree. Maybe you could do one attack and one defense (for example, beacon attack or beacon defense)

so far there are point i see the reason in,some i can agree as good options but guys dnt forget

we need to make a suggestion that plarium dsnt turn down either

and its not only plarium,players might disagree too

so we need to focus on some aspect of it and discuss or expand it more.

I will put up a suggestion here that Plarium might be willing to do and players might agree on.

Since there are 20 Champs, Plarium could create a chart with 20 different squares with a picture of each different Champ.  

Then, let's say... at the begining of the month, this chart comes up upon your login.  

You are asked to select the ( 2 ) Champs you would like to see in the next Champs for Bonds event and you only get to select your ( 2 ) Champs ONCE.    

( Only players who have gone over level 40 and completed the Champ Tutorial would have this selection choice come up )

This makes the selection process way more important by limiting the number of days to make your choice.  

Plarium leaves this chart up for... say 3 - 5 days.  If you make your choice on day 2 of 5, then you would not see the chart agin, whatever day you make your choice, it is locked in and you cannot choose again. 

Those that miss out on the choosing of ( 2 ) Champs in this 3 - 5 day window...    miss out and are stuck with whatever choice was made for the event by other players that actually took the time to select.  

And this dosen't have to be at the begining of the month, it can be random when this 3 - 5 day window of selecting ( 2 ) Champs occurs.

Now Plarium has some " REAL ACTIVE PLAYER " data to go on.  Out of the 20 Champs, Plarium can see from the selections made which 2 Champs garnered the most choices.  Then they would know which ( 2 ) Champs the majority of players are looking for.  

Plarium can either:

1) give us the one that had the most selections if they have 1 event in the month or 

2) have 2 events a month with the 2nd event being the Champ that garnered the 2nd most selections.

Plarium has already created a chart for the Imperial Loyalty Roll.   They could just use the first 20 squares and put in the picture of each of the different Champs and then when we make our selections, a green check mark would be placed over our 2 choices we made. And we have to Confirm these choices.

Doing this would hopefully make all players feel like they were actually having a say, instead of complaining about the same Champ being offered 2 or 3 times in a row on the Forum**.

And since Plarium seems to like the "RANDOM" effect... by doing this, it would be actually "RANDOM" because the Champs over time would change.   

**  NOTE:  There would be the effect of the first several times of choosing... it would more than likely be the same Champ, because there are many out there that want to have between 2 to 10 of the same Champ 

(like the Cavalier - so they can get more resources faster rather than being limited to working with only 1 of this Champ)

(like the Werewolf - so they can do more Offensive BG's faster than one-at-time with one Champ)

(like the Reaper - so they can do more Defensive Bg's faster than one-at-time with one Champ)

etc... etc... etc...   

you can see where having more of the same Champ will benefit many players, but over time they would aquire the number of Champs they want and then the "RANDOM" choice of what Champ would be in the Champ for Bond event would truly become "RANDOM"

I've deleted my suggestion. 

Good to see some ideas being thrown around. 

I still prefer the random / cycled element, rather than players getting to ask for which champs should be up next or getting to choose which champs should be available. 

I'd expect it would just be abused. 

And I say that as someone with 19 out of the 20 golds. 

But hey, it's a democracy. 

jelly baby

i got ur post.selecting 2 champions for both of which players can vote.

few things to note here.pls dnt focus on how.that makes the post very long aso causing people either not to read or lose track of what it is about along the way

so no focus on how and steps,just say what to do or best options in ur opinion

also feel free to highlight the shortcomings of others views or opinions

we are trying to come up with the not only the best way but also easiest way.if u guys say so ill include the vote option too but many shortcomings so far for this one too

1.can be abused

2.hard to implement. alot of programming needed,plarium might not accept

so would i be correct to say the old cycle with faster pace and voting for 2 champions at the begining of each month are 2 favored options so far ?

topic is and will still be open till everyone agrees on same thing, just asking!

I will put up a suggestion here that Plarium might be willing to do and players might agree on.

Since there are 20 Champs, Plarium could create a chart with 20 different squares with a picture of each different Champ.  

Then, let's say... at the begining of the month, this chart comes up upon your login.  

You are asked to select the ( 2 ) Champs you would like to see in the next Champs for Bonds event and you only get to select your ( 2 ) Champs ONCE.    

( Only players who have gone over level 40 and completed the Champ Tutorial would have this selection choice come up )

This makes the selection process way more important by limiting the number of days to make your choice.  

Plarium leaves this chart up for... say 3 - 5 days.  If you make your choice on day 2 of 5, then you would not see the chart agin, whatever day you make your choice, it is locked in and you cannot choose again. 

Those that miss out on the choosing of ( 2 ) Champs in this 3 - 5 day window...    miss out and are stuck with whatever choice was made for the event by other players that actually took the time to select.  

And this dosen't have to be at the begining of the month, it can be random when this 3 - 5 day window of selecting ( 2 ) Champs occurs.

Now Plarium has some " REAL ACTIVE PLAYER " data to go on.  Out of the 20 Champs, Plarium can see from the selections made which 2 Champs garnered the most choices.  Then they would know which ( 2 ) Champs the majority of players are looking for.  

Plarium can either:

1) give us the one that had the most selections if they have 1 event in the month or 

2) have 2 events a month with the 2nd event being the Champ that garnered the 2nd most selections.

Plarium has already created a chart for the Imperial Loyalty Roll.   They could just use the first 20 squares and put in the picture of each of the different Champs and then when we make our selections, a green check mark would be placed over our 2 choices we made. And we have to Confirm these choices.

Doing this would hopefully make all players feel like they were actually having a say, instead of complaining about the same Champ being offered 2 or 3 times in a row on the Forum**.

And since Plarium seems to like the "RANDOM" effect... by doing this, it would be actually "RANDOM" because the Champs over time would change.   

**  NOTE:  There would be the effect of the first several times of choosing... it would more than likely be the same Champ, because there are many out there that want to have between 2 to 10 of the same Champ 

(like the Cavalier - so they can get more resources faster rather than being limited to working with only 1 of this Champ)

(like the Werewolf - so they can do more Offensive BG's faster than one-at-time with one Champ)

(like the Reaper - so they can do more Defensive Bg's faster than one-at-time with one Champ)

etc... etc... etc...   

you can see where having more of the same Champ will benefit many players, but over time they would aquire the number of Champs they want and then the "RANDOM" choice of what Champ would be in the Champ for Bond event would truly become "RANDOM"

BiohazarD said:

Jelly Baby said:

That would let plarium know which champions are the most popular, but I think it would be better to give individual players a choice rather than just voting and everybody has to live with what the majority choose.  

i dnt think plarium would go for this

given the time this topic was up,also players and pro players suggesting ideas

first i should say that my agreement and/or disagreement means nothing,as i will include everyone's' suggestion

after this summoning event( want to see plarium's favorite champ selection too)i will post a suggestion.a mix of all 3 ideas ,will write 3 numbers and will make it a pole .

u guys can share it with ur league mates to vote on

if no objection, ill be going forward with this

thank you

BiohazarD said:

Jelly Baby said:

That would let plarium know which champions are the most popular, but I think it would be better to give individual players a choice rather than just voting and everybody has to live with what the majority choose.  

i dnt think plarium would go for this

also in my opinion this could be abused so much,could give every captain,commander or any leader in a  party a beacon offense champion

BiohazarD said:

fURY said:

BiohazarD said:

Jelly Baby said:

That would let plarium know which champions are the most popular, but I think it would be better to give individual players a choice rather than just voting and everybody has to live with what the majority choose.  

i dnt think plarium would go for this

also in my opinion this could be abused so much,could give every captain,commander or any leader in a  party a beacon offense champion

I mean all of the big coiners with multi-billion offenses already have them, they just bought holy bonds until they got what they wanted.  It's us plebs who have to make do with the free holy bonds we occasionally get from tournaments that are left to bicker over the guaranteed champ events.  

very valid point of discussion