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May 20, 2020, 10:5205/20/20
01/25/19
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SH 20 percent buff to non SH unit not giving any bonus stat

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Server: “The Dark Plain ”;
Feature: SH buff which reduce the defense of non-Stoneheart units in offense battle by20% and it don't work
our coalition member has test the SH buff which reduce the defense of non-Stoneheart units in offense battle by20% and it don't work



as you could see below the test report this without any SH unit include in there  
Step 1: hitting 200 demon with 100 gargoyle


and this one with SH unit include in there 
Step 2: hitting 200 demon and 1 purtogory with 100 gargoyle


Step3 : hit where 251 purgatory equall with 200 demon been hit with 100 gargoyle  

as you could see that the result of the battle was the same please repair this one 

What should have happened: The battle result  should give different result 




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May 21, 2020, 12:0205/21/20
May 21, 2020, 12:34(edited)
02/22/16
1846

Your Data is flawed firstly nowhere does it say Stoneheart units are a shield or Buff for your Regular units. You can't really expect a single infantry Stone heart unit to have any significance Against a Stoneheart beast attack of that size.


If you want to test this you must attack the same number Of Occult Stoneheart units as you did the Regular Occult units With the same amount Of Stoneheart Beast Units . 

It's an expensive test  but it would most likely show a big difference

This is not a bug so i will move this to the Game discussion  area. 


May 21, 2020, 13:0505/21/20
08/09/15
580

wesley already explained it perfectly ,units type matter.not only that,each unit's statistic against every single unit type differ too


thats a purgator's defense stat against a gargoyle.but if u see the totals while sending it will show a diferent number.

also in pvp ,the numbers it shows are directly dependant on power point of each unit,u vant just judge by numbers,diferent units got diferent power points in defense and also in ofensive actions

u would also like to visit this page on the outcome of a battle here.

many things can and will affect the procedure u just showed

even though its not a bug,a very nice experiment ,enjoyed reading this post

May 21, 2020, 15:3705/21/20
01/25/19
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Wesley Pringle said:


Your Data is flawed firstly nowhere does it say Stoneheart units are a shield or Buff for your Regular units. You can't really expect a single infantry Stone heart unit to have any significance Against a Stoneheart beast attack of that size.


If you want to test this you must attack the same number Of Occult Stoneheart units as you did the Regular Occult units With the same amount Of Stoneheart Beast Units . 

It's an expensive test  but it would most likely show a big difference

This is not a bug so i will move this to the Game discussion  area. 


1. the data isn't flawed first of all what i ask not the debuff from the lost art(stoneheart ability) but the debuff from the stoneheart that hitting non stoneheart please see the combat ability 
2. his 200 demon the defense value was the same as = with 251 purgatorydefense value when defending the beast type
3. this test was do on the non waller and the attacker and the defender was the same person
4.As you could see the one attacking was gargoyle ("beastiary type") so the demon and purgatory will defend value base on the Beast type
5. if the 200 demon status equall with 251 purgatory status in the defense beast why the result of the battle was the same where the defender lost 90% and the offense was lost on 10%? 
  


May 22, 2020, 08:0405/22/20
02/28/16
131

Reid Farenheid said:



as you could see that the result of the battle was the same please repair this one


what i can clearly see is that the results of the battles are different. demons lost 93,5% to 8% gargs lost and purgs lost 92% to 9% gargs lost. thats not the same.

assuming the test was done in a castle without a single wall piece and beast def value of demons and purgs used was the same your test actually proved that gargs get the bonus while fighting non-stoneheart units

May 22, 2020, 11:3405/22/20
02/22/16
1846

Reid Farenheid said:


Wesley Pringle said:


Your Data is flawed firstly nowhere does it say Stoneheart units are a shield or Buff for your Regular units. You can't really expect a single infantry Stone heart unit to have any significance Against a Stoneheart beast attack of that size.


If you want to test this you must attack the same number Of Occult Stoneheart units as you did the Regular Occult units With the same amount Of Stoneheart Beast Units . 

It's an expensive test  but it would most likely show a big difference

This is not a bug so i will move this to the Game discussion  area. 


1. the data isn't flawed first of all what i ask not the debuff from the lost art(stoneheart ability) but the debuff from the stoneheart that hitting non stoneheart please see the combat ability 
2. his 200 demon the defense value was the same as = with 251 purgatorydefense value when defending the beast type
3. this test was do on the non waller and the attacker and the defender was the same person
4.As you could see the one attacking was gargoyle ("beastiary type") so the demon and purgatory will defend value base on the Beast type
5. if the 200 demon status equall with 251 purgatory status in the defense beast why the result of the battle was the same where the defender lost 90% and the offense was lost on 10%? 
  

I think you are  jousting against windmills If your going to make comparisons At least make them with Comparable Units  Not with units that are different Compare Occults with Occults and Infantry against Infantry That is where your Data is flawed  



BiohazarDModerator
May 22, 2020, 19:0005/22/20
10/04/13
3817
Silverhand said:

Reid Farenheid said:



as you could see that the result of the battle was the same please repair this one


what i can clearly see is that the results of the battles are different. demons lost 93,5% to 8% gargs lost and purgs lost 92% to 9% gargs lost. thats not the same.

assuming the test was done in a castle without a single wall piece and beast def value of demons and purgs used was the same your test actually proved that gargs get the bonus while fighting non-stoneheart units

Yep that's what it looks like to me.  When attacking 200 demons or 200 demons and 1 purg with gargs, in both cases the defense of the demons is reduced by 20%, but the defense power of the purg isn't affected.