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WEOR Offense unit (event) - issue with training speed

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Mar 19, 2020, 09:0103/19/20
08/01/15
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WEOR Offense unit (event) - issue with training speed

Dear Plarium Team,


I am facing a problem for the training of the new offense unit during the Weor event. The boosts I have (dragon, market... ) to increase the training speed of the Weor Unit (offense) are not working and training time remains 1h10 min.




It would be very kind of you if you could check and solve this issue.


Many thanks in advance for your help


Farfadet

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Mar 19, 2020, 10:1603/19/20
02/22/16
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Hello I'm sorry your have a problem. Just to be clear are you using Stoneheart boost ? Also if you could leave you cords along with your Server and Platform I can have this looked into for you .
Mar 19, 2020, 10:5803/19/20
Mar 19, 2020, 11:00(edited)
08/01/15
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Hello Wesley, 

 

Thank you for your answer ! 

 

I am playing from a PC, on Internet Explorer brower, server Dark Plains 

 

I don't use a Stoneheart boost, but I don't get the benefits from my Dragon nor from market to produce the Weor Knight unit 






My Valkyra unit benefits from these boosts, but not the Knight :




Thank you in advance for your help to solve this !


Regards,


Farfadet 

Mar 19, 2020, 11:1603/19/20
10/25/15
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not working i tink for anyone and players spend alot of boosts to boost the units without the speeed and sure plarium will not return the boost that where use to boost the troops
Mar 19, 2020, 11:2203/19/20
10/25/15
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Wesley Pringle said:

Hello I'm sorry your have a problem. Just to be clear are you using Stoneheart boost ? Also if you could leave you cords along with your Server and Platform I can have this looked into for you .
why to use sh boost when the knight and elementalist are best. units . and evryone that i talk with have the problem with the speed of traning 
Mar 19, 2020, 11:2803/19/20
03/03/20
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everything is locked i can not play further than lvl 5 bgs in this tourney. 
Mar 19, 2020, 20:3703/19/20
Mar 19, 2020, 20:39(edited)
02/22/16
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 These are the boost required  to boost the units 

Mar 19, 2020, 20:4103/19/20
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Frans said:


everything is locked i can not play further than lvl 5 bgs in this tourney. 

Your League must play along with you  Depending on the activity of or the size of your league you may or may not be able to open all levels


Mar 19, 2020, 20:5703/19/20
08/01/15
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Yes Indeed, I agree for the boosts. But this is not the problem I am facing now.


My problem is the benefits of Dragon and the training speed bonus in the black market. As you can see in my previous post, my Valkyra get the bonuses (32 min to train one) but not my knight ( 1h10 min). 

The training speed weor arts are almost at the same level (-20%) for both (even less for the valkyra, but I have double the time for the knight… Something wrong there 



   
Mar 19, 2020, 21:0403/19/20
Mar 19, 2020, 21:09(edited)
02/22/16
1846
Farfadet said:


Hello Wesley, 

 

Thank you for your answer ! 

 

I am playing from a PC, on Internet Explorer brower, server Dark Plains 

 

I don't use a Stoneheart boost, but I don't get the benefits from my Dragon nor from market to produce the Weor Knight unit 






My Valkyra unit benefits from these boosts, but not the Knight :




Thank you in advance for your help to solve this !


Regards,


Farfadet 

These are New units that don't get that boost that's why they are able to be upgraded to reduce build times within the weorian Strong hold I hope that answers your Question    The Hourglass lost art is to reduce training time for the unit and as I said if you use the stoneheart boost that will also advance your training cue .
Mar 19, 2020, 21:2203/19/20
Mar 19, 2020, 21:42(edited)
08/01/15
3

My Valkyra gets the bonuses from market and dragon. For example, now, my boost from the market is over (-50% training speed bestiary) and the consequence is that for the Valkyra, the training time increased from 32min 12s (picture above) to 41 min 31s. 

 

Edit : 

Just one more information : without any improvment, the training time of a Valkyra is something like 58 min. I have now the weor arts -13% training time. Impossible to reach 32min12 s just with this boost :



Mar 19, 2020, 21:4103/19/20
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As this is not a bug This Topic will be moved to discussion

Mar 23, 2020, 00:5403/23/20
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It's pretty bad form that the unit is described as Bestiary (or Occult in terms of the other Weor units) but that the boosts for bestiary don't apply to that unit. 

There are no pointers in game that could reasonably be expect to lead players to the conclusion that they are being treated as Stoneheart units.

You can see why players are unhappy about it (in this and other threads), as it's totally misleading and has led to the waste of what are for some people very rare items.

Mar 23, 2020, 01:5703/23/20
Mar 23, 2020, 12:45(edited)
02/22/16
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djmoody said:


 

There are no pointers in game that could reasonably be expect to lead players to the conclusion that they are being treated as Stoneheart units.

You can see why players are unhappy about it (in this and other threads), as it's totally misleading and has led to the waste of what are for some people very rare items.

Welcome back DJ  the fact that the buildings that generate the new units are placed in the stoneheart Castle gives the player the indication that they are being treated as stoneheart units  

And the boost feature the player inquired about is a feature of the first castles Beast units .


BiohazarDModerator
Mar 23, 2020, 13:0703/23/20
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Wesley Pringle said:

djmoody said:


 

There are no pointers in game that could reasonably be expect to lead players to the conclusion that they are being treated as Stoneheart units.

You can see why players are unhappy about it (in this and other threads), as it's totally misleading and has led to the waste of what are for some people very rare items.

Welcome back DJ  the fact that the buildings that generate the new units are placed in the stoneheart Castle gives the player the indication that they are being treated as stoneheart units  

And the boost feature the player inquired about is a feature of the first castles Beast units .


In the previous event the weor units were affected by occult boosts though I think.   
Mar 23, 2020, 23:1203/23/20
02/20/17
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Limad said:

When trained, they get sent to LVL 26 catas along with regular troops.

They get the same Off/Def bonuses as regular Troops. (Bar unit XP cos it's not in place for them yet.)

They get Hero Off/Def bonuses - SH Troops don't.

They can't be sent to SH Bgs.

They can't be sent to SH Hamlet's. 

They show up in Cata's along with regular non-SH Troops. 

A Brigadier Champ doesn't reduce their build times. 

They don't show up in the number of SH troops you have in the Embassy | Stats tab.

The only reason the building is an SH one is because a lot of players wouldn't have room to place a new building anywhere else. 

Using your reasoning; are Champs also SH units? 

So to call them SH troops to justify why only SH boosts can be used? Not a hill I'd want to die on. 

To sum up; you'd expect all normal boost options (Dragon, Market, Sapphires, Regular Daily etc) that apply to non-SH troops would apply to these (also) non-SH troops. 

But I guess the answer just comes down to this. 




The best comment so far imo..kudos 2 u!
Mar 24, 2020, 16:4503/24/20
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IT's the same problem with the Weor lost arts, in order to speed them up you have to use SH boosts but when the WLAs finish you don't get points in the SH dev tourny, you only get points in the normal Dev tourny.
Mar 24, 2020, 22:0003/24/20
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It worth adding that the special units have a gold/iron/resource value (quite a significant one). Just a slight extra to add to Limad's already pretty comprehensive list.

AlinaCommunity Manager
Mar 27, 2020, 15:2703/27/20
Mar 27, 2020, 15:36(edited)
05/21/19
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Hello, everyone! I see a heated discussion here  Just to make it clear I would like to point out again that you can speed up Weorian Unit training with Stoneheart Boosts. You can also increase the speed of Weorian Unit training by upgrading each Unit's Weorian Lost Art. That's it, no other boosts will speed up the training time. It's intended taking into account that the Weorian Stronghold is placed in the Stoneheart Castle.  




AlinaCommunity Manager
Mar 27, 2020, 15:2903/27/20
05/21/19
3510
Razor said:

IT's the same problem with the Weor lost arts, in order to speed them up you have to use SH boosts but when the WLAs finish you don't get points in the SH dev tourny, you only get points in the normal Dev tourny.
Hello, Razor! Could you please specify what you mean? What "SH Dev tourny" and "Dev tourny" are you talking about? Thanks!
Mar 28, 2020, 14:4703/28/20
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Razor said:

IT's the same problem with the Weor lost arts, in order to speed them up you have to use SH boosts but when the WLAs finish you don't get points in the SH dev tourny, you only get points in the normal Dev tourny.
This does not seen to be a problem anymore, so ether I was misobserving before or Plarium changed the rules because the WLA's did count in the recent SH dev tourny.