Aegon Targaryen said:

The weekly Mar'eth Quest for Dailies now requires 30 instead of 25? What gives?  The 2 hamlet quests and the helping 20 league members quest have yet to be replaced with quests that actually have a realistic chance of completion.

Hello!

The requirement for Weekly Quest was updated long time ago. 

You don't receive the same set of Quests for several days in a row, they're changing and allow you to complete 30 required Quests without any issues.

And you'll soon notice they do not always give the 5 quests,,, some times 4 or 3. i've heard low as 2  but not seen it personally.

roadstar Pitbull said:

And you'll soon notice they do not always give the 5 quests,,, some times 4 or 3. i've heard low as 2  but not seen it personally.

This information is correct for FB servers, for plarium.com servers devs didn't change anything in Mar'eth's Quests mechanics in this update.

roadstar Pitbull said:

Alina Phoenix said:

roadstar Pitbull said:

And you'll soon notice they do not always give the 5 quests,,, some times 4 or 3. i've heard low as 2  but not seen it personally.

This information is correct for FB servers, for plarium.com servers devs didn't change anything in Mar'eth's Quests mechanics in this update.

Better have yet another talk to your "developers".

Yes, as Roadstar Pitbull said, have another talk with devs.

This is the first I've seen on plarium.com - server 2 with 30 dailies for weekly since the update. It was 25 prior.

And I agree, there should be different sections for Plarium and Facebook. As many updates regarding Facebook does not apply to plarium.com

Tell me, as one of the dailies requires me to add time to my Paragon status, that is by the way already active? More greed???

I've seen as low as 3 dailies this week, 4 and max 5. Hope I will not see 2. Minimum was 4 prior to the latest update.

I also agree with OP's statement, why have that pesky league help request 20/30, when you have or are in a league that is well developed. It is not possible to complete it. Though, there is a way to help that, add help request to Lost and Dragon Arts, upgrade/selling Hero items (Rise of Balur).

Futrikelv said:

roadstar Pitbull said:

Alina Phoenix said:

roadstar Pitbull said:

And you'll soon notice they do not always give the 5 quests,,, some times 4 or 3. i've heard low as 2  but not seen it personally.

This information is correct for FB servers, for plarium.com servers devs didn't change anything in Mar'eth's Quests mechanics in this update.

Better have yet another talk to your "developers".

Yes, as Roadstar Pitbull said, have another talk with devs.

This is the first I've seen on plarium.com - server 2 with 30 dailies for weekly since the update. It was 25 prior.

And I agree, there should be different sections for Plarium and Facebook. As many updates regarding Facebook does not apply to plarium.com

Tell me, as one of the dailies requires me to add time to my Paragon status, that is by the way already active? More greed???

I've seen as low as 3 dailies this week, 4 and max 5. Hope I will not see 2. Minimum was 4 prior to the latest update.

I also agree with OP's statement, why have that pesky league help request 20/30, when you have or are in a league that is well developed. It is not possible to complete it. Though, there is a way to help that, add help request to Lost and Dragon Arts, upgrade/selling Hero items (Rise of Balur).

Facebook does not have a Forum - they have 2 useless Community pages where it is impossible to find any useful information because it gets burried by spam within minutes
There are too many Forums and Community pages - divide and conquer 

but the info from fb is that you can still use 30 minute Paragon Activators to complete this Mareth Quest

Aegon Targaryen said:

The weekly Mar'eth Quest for Dailies now requires 30 instead of 25? What gives?  The 2 hamlet quests and the helping 20 league members quest have yet to be replaced with quests that actually have a realistic chance of completion.

Hello!

The requirement for Weekly Quest was updated long time ago. 

You don't receive the same set of Quests for several days in a row, they're changing and allow you to complete 30 required Quests without any issues.

Aegon Targaryen said:

The weekly Mar'eth Quest for Dailies now requires 30 instead of 25? What gives?  The 2 hamlet quests and the helping 20 league members quest have yet to be replaced with quests that actually have a realistic chance of completion.

Hello!

The requirement for Weekly Quest was updated long time ago. 

You don't receive the same set of Quests for several days in a row, they're changing and allow you to complete 30 required Quests without any issues.

Hello.

I'm sorry for the confusion, you're right. The number of Quests increased, but it wasn't done on purpose 

Alina Phoenix said:

Hello.

I'm sorry for the confusion, you're right. The number of Quests increased, but it wasn't done on purpose 

In the very near future, devs are going to release a fix for it and return the requirement that we had before - 25 Daily Quests for Weekly one.

Excellent!!

Thanks for the update.

Good to hear about going back to 25.  I could almost always get that, but 30 is impossible.  This week I got all 3's. 

yep, sometimes is a bit confusing what is in updated on each game (fb/plarium) so its easy dont remember which one is with one update or other

so lets hope all lords could complete their tasks in an easy way

Snowgoon said:

Futrikelv said:

roadstar Pitbull said:

Alina Phoenix said:

roadstar Pitbull said:

And you'll soon notice they do not always give the 5 quests,,, some times 4 or 3. i've heard low as 2  but not seen it personally.

This information is correct for FB servers, for plarium.com servers devs didn't change anything in Mar'eth's Quests mechanics in this update.

Better have yet another talk to your "developers".

Yes, as Roadstar Pitbull said, have another talk with devs.

This is the first I've seen on plarium.com - server 2 with 30 dailies for weekly since the update. It was 25 prior.

And I agree, there should be different sections for Plarium and Facebook. As many updates regarding Facebook does not apply to plarium.com

Tell me, as one of the dailies requires me to add time to my Paragon status, that is by the way already active? More greed???

I've seen as low as 3 dailies this week, 4 and max 5. Hope I will not see 2. Minimum was 4 prior to the latest update.

I also agree with OP's statement, why have that pesky league help request 20/30, when you have or are in a league that is well developed. It is not possible to complete it. Though, there is a way to help that, add help request to Lost and Dragon Arts, upgrade/selling Hero items (Rise of Balur).

Facebook does not have a Forum - they have 2 useless Community pages where it is impossible to find any useful information because it gets burried by spam within minutes
There are too many Forums and Community pages - divide and conquer 

but the info from fb is that you can still use 30 minute Paragon Activators to complete this Mareth Quest

There is Official FB Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/402686013133425/ where all information is very easy to find.

All important posts I pin to the top, you can easity use Search option or check for the required information in the File Section.

Aegon Targaryen said:

Now if they will only stop giving the Paragon collection of quests to those of us with the active Paragon status.   Getting that Quest collection and the Hamlet quest collection more than once pretty much ends any hope of 25.  I found it hard to even get 20 last week.  Those hamlet quests really need to go the way of the dodo.

Mar'eth Quests are meant to be a challenge for players. Some of them you can easily complete within minutes others require more time and dedication.

Alina, the weekly 25 daily quests was doable, yes, as the Hamlet collection quests only appeared 2-3 times per week.  If it appeared 3 times (for a total of 9 quests), I still could get 16 dailies done in the other 4 days.

Now that the Paragon collection quests have been allowed into the rotation for those of us with active Paragon quests, this now becomes extremely unlikely.  The assist 20 league member quest is not doable at all.  Its not a challenge.  Its not possible to do.   The kill units at a Hamlet is also NOT possible, as its extremely rare to see an occupied hamlet.  If I do see one, its usually by a level 120 or above.  Again, its not a challenge.  Its not possible to complete.  That only leaves 3 (BG kills, assist leagueattack, and paragon).

What happens when I run out of 30 min and 1 hour paragon activators?   Its impossible to buy Paragon activators if one is already active, and I usually keep my 30 day PA going.   Now, I'm down to 2 for that day.

The assist league member attack quest requires such an attack to be available, and either 1) close enough to attack during the current in-game session, or 2) close enough to attack before the reset, and then hope to log on just before reset to claim the quest before it disappears.  This could easily bring this day's available quest down to just 1 (BG kills).

If I hadn't been keeping the Paragon active, I likely would have only rarely completed the weekly 25, and never completed the monthly 100 quests.

That makes 5 quests that are impossible (or virtually impossible) and 1 very difficult situational quest.  The 2 Hamlet resource quests, the kill troops at Hamlet quest, the assist league member building quests, the Paragon Activator quest (if already activated), and the assist league attack quest.

7*5-6=29.  Some days only have 4 listed instead of 5.  Getting either of the Hamlet or Paragon quest selections more than once prevents the Weekly 25 from being achieved.

Challenge is ok, if its actually doable.

Aegon Targaryen said:

Alina, the weekly 25 daily quests was doable, yes, as the Hamlet collection quests only appeared 2-3 times per week.  If it appeared 3 times (for a total of 9 quests), I still could get 16 dailies done in the other 4 days.

Now that the Paragon collection quests have been allowed into the rotation for those of us with active Paragon quests, this now becomes extremely unlikely.  The assist 20 league member quest is not doable at all.  Its not a challenge.  Its not possible to do.   The kill units at a Hamlet is also NOT possible, as its extremely rare to see an occupied hamlet.  If I do see one, its usually by a level 120 or above.  Again, its not a challenge.  Its not possible to complete.  That only leaves 3 (BG kills, assist leagueattack, and paragon).

What happens when I run out of 30 min and 1 hour paragon activators?   Its impossible to buy Paragon activators if one is already active, and I usually keep my 30 day PA going.   Now, I'm down to 2 for that day.

The assist league member attack quest requires such an attack to be available, and either 1) close enough to attack during the current in-game session, or 2) close enough to attack before the reset, and then hope to log on just before reset to claim the quest before it disappears.  This could easily bring this day's available quest down to just 1 (BG kills).

If I hadn't been keeping the Paragon active, I likely would have only rarely completed the weekly 25, and never completed the monthly 100 quests.

That makes 5 quests that are impossible (or virtually impossible) and 1 very difficult situational quest.  The 2 Hamlet resource quests, the kill troops at Hamlet quest, the assist league member building quests, the Paragon Activator quest (if already activated), and the assist league attack quest.

7*5-6=29.  Some days only have 4 listed instead of 5.  Getting either of the Hamlet or Paragon quest selections more than once prevents the Weekly 25 from being achieved.

Challenge is ok, if its actually doable.

Hello, my Lord!

What happens when I run out of 30 min and 1 hour paragon activators? 

You can win them as part of Tournament Reward :)

As for Quests on Hamlets, I already forwarded feedback to devs and they're working on making Hamlets more interesting to players. And "get this feature back to life".

Limad said:

Alina Phoenix said:

 

Aegon Targaryen said:

Now if they will only stop giving the Paragon collection of quests to those of us with the active Paragon status.   Getting that Quest collection and the Hamlet quest collection more than once pretty much ends any hope of 25.  I found it hard to even get 20 last week.  Those hamlet quests really need to go the way of the dodo.

Mar'eth Quests are meant to be a challenge for players. Some of them you can easily complete within minutes others require more time and dedication.

But even if you don't complete several Quests, you still will be able to finish Weekly/Monthly Quests. Their number is calculated in such way that players still have a room for Quests they can't complete. 

Hi Alina,

Until recently, Mar'eth quests were a nice little feature that rewarded daily activity and provided some nice bonuses along the way. The only real complaint players had was being asked to train troops that they hadn't discovered yet, but this was only really an issue for newer players and - as you said yourself on many occasions - this was designed as an incentive for players to discover those troops and become stronger etc etc. 

Roll forward to today and now new and old players are complaining daily about the recent changes. So, can you tell us what exactly was the problem with the old system that you guys were trying to resolve with these changes? And how exactly are these changes intended to resolve that problem?

Hello, Lord Limad!

The initial idea was the following: give Quests based on the player's account statistics. For example, if you have Paragon activated, you won't receive Quest on its activation as it's done already. 

Devs didn't take into account that such players would receive fewer Quests and won't be able to complete Weekly and Monthly Quests. It caused the issues, that's why they had to undo these changes.

Alina Phoenix said:

Limad said:

Alina Phoenix said:

 

Aegon Targaryen said:

Now if they will only stop giving the Paragon collection of quests to those of us with the active Paragon status.   Getting that Quest collection and the Hamlet quest collection more than once pretty much ends any hope of 25.  I found it hard to even get 20 last week.  Those hamlet quests really need to go the way of the dodo.

Mar'eth Quests are meant to be a challenge for players. Some of them you can easily complete within minutes others require more time and dedication.

But even if you don't complete several Quests, you still will be able to finish Weekly/Monthly Quests. Their number is calculated in such way that players still have a room for Quests they can't complete. 

Hi Alina,

Until recently, Mar'eth quests were a nice little feature that rewarded daily activity and provided some nice bonuses along the way. The only real complaint players had was being asked to train troops that they hadn't discovered yet, but this was only really an issue for newer players and - as you said yourself on many occasions - this was designed as an incentive for players to discover those troops and become stronger etc etc. 

Roll forward to today and now new and old players are complaining daily about the recent changes. So, can you tell us what exactly was the problem with the old system that you guys were trying to resolve with these changes? And how exactly are these changes intended to resolve that problem?

Hello, Lord Limad!

The initial idea was the following: give Quests based on the player's account statistics. For example, if you have Paragon activated, you won't receive Quest on its activation as it's done already. 

Devs didn't take into account that such players would receive fewer Quests and won't be able to complete Weekly and Monthly Quests. It caused the issues, that's why they had to undo these changes.

Please UNDO the undoing of the changes.   I had an easier time completing the Weekly and Monthly quests when I NEVER got the Paragon quest group.

The INITIAL IDEA was the BETTER idea than the current situation.   Go back to it!

Please remove the Paragon Quest group from appearing when Paragon is active.   Having it appear makes it MORE difficult, NOT easier, to complete the Weekly and Monthly quests. 

Alina Phoenix said:

Aegon Targaryen said:

Alina, the weekly 25 daily quests was doable, yes, as the Hamlet collection quests only appeared 2-3 times per week.  If it appeared 3 times (for a total of 9 quests), I still could get 16 dailies done in the other 4 days.

Now that the Paragon collection quests have been allowed into the rotation for those of us with active Paragon quests, this now becomes extremely unlikely.  The assist 20 league member quest is not doable at all.  Its not a challenge.  Its not possible to do.   The kill units at a Hamlet is also NOT possible, as its extremely rare to see an occupied hamlet.  If I do see one, its usually by a level 120 or above.  Again, its not a challenge.  Its not possible to complete.  That only leaves 3 (BG kills, assist leagueattack, and paragon).

What happens when I run out of 30 min and 1 hour paragon activators?   Its impossible to buy Paragon activators if one is already active, and I usually keep my 30 day PA going.   Now, I'm down to 2 for that day.

The assist league member attack quest requires such an attack to be available, and either 1) close enough to attack during the current in-game session, or 2) close enough to attack before the reset, and then hope to log on just before reset to claim the quest before it disappears.  This could easily bring this day's available quest down to just 1 (BG kills).

If I hadn't been keeping the Paragon active, I likely would have only rarely completed the weekly 25, and never completed the monthly 100 quests.

That makes 5 quests that are impossible (or virtually impossible) and 1 very difficult situational quest.  The 2 Hamlet resource quests, the kill troops at Hamlet quest, the assist league member building quests, the Paragon Activator quest (if already activated), and the assist league attack quest.

7*5-6=29.  Some days only have 4 listed instead of 5.  Getting either of the Hamlet or Paragon quest selections more than once prevents the Weekly 25 from being achieved.

Challenge is ok, if its actually doable.

Hello, my Lord!

What happens when I run out of 30 min and 1 hour paragon activators? 

You can win them as part of Tournament Reward :)

As for Quests on Hamlets, I already forwarded feedback to devs and they're working on making Hamlets more interesting to players. And "get this feature back to life".

In the near future, devs plan to add new Quests and they will allow you to complete Weekly/Monthly Quests easier :)

That is not a good answer.   I know I can continue to get new ones...in time.   However, I may be out on the day the Paragon Quest group appears.  If this happens, it will be impossible to complete that quest.

Also, that answer fails to address a ridiculous act of requiring a player who already has the Paragon active to apply another activation in order to complete the quest.   If a player is already spending thousands of sapphires to keep their Paragon bonus active, then this quest group, which is mostly difficult to achieve quests, should not appear at all.  Its a slap in the face to a paying customer, one likely to result in a reduction in the amount of Plarium's income in the future if not fixed.

Most of the quests in the group should not even be there, but if they're going to stay, then at least remove the Paragon Quest group from appearing when the Paragon is already active.   At an absolute bare minimum, the Paragon activation quest itself should be automatically completed the second the quest appears at server reset, if its already active.

I hope the Devs do make the Hamlets more interesting, but I'll see it when I believe it.    They actually had a TINY value when they were first introduced.  The moment the devs increased the speed to the Hamlets, they lost ALL value (other than defensive suicide).