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Mar 20, 2018, 16:5803/20/18
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Mareth Power Points fail

I kill one Red Dragon worth 400 defense - http://prntscr.com/itw1jm



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But am awarded 400 Power Points in the Mareth Quest




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Unit Strength divided by 40 gives Power Points

One Pikeman is worth One power point
One Dragon is worth 42 power points
One Griffin is worth less than 15 power points


I should only get 10 power points

All Mareth Quests need to be adjusted - not just the points from kills, but also the amount needed to complete the quests

28,000 points needed for this quest - divide everything by 40 or the quests will be unbalanced

Either that or change the description in the quests - these are not Power Points

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Mar 20, 2018, 17:1403/20/18
Mar 20, 2018, 17:20(edited)
11/15/16
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I need 56.000 Powerpoints in ONE week. That is no problem if you play active. You shouldnt attack empty castles but such castle where you can find defensive.

Powerpoints are not the same as pvp points.

Mar 20, 2018, 18:0503/20/18
12/13/14
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Feuerherz said:


I need 56.000 Powerpoints in ONE week. That is no problem if you play active. You shouldnt attack empty castles but such castle where you can find defensive.

Powerpoints are not the same as pvp points.

I have been playing since 2013 and know how the game works

I attack empty castle for a quest

I dont want pvp points because the rewards are microscopic since they added the Elite Tier for coiners only

Agent PavelTechnical Support
Mar 21, 2018, 09:5403/21/18
07/02/15
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Hello, Lord!

We do not disclose the detailed information about the power points calculation system. 

The reported case cannot be classified as a bug since this is a part of the regular gameplay. I have moved your topic to Game Discussion thread.

Mar 21, 2018, 10:0903/21/18
Mar 21, 2018, 10:20(edited)
12/13/14
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Agent Pavel said:


Hello, Lord!

We do not disclose the detailed information about the power points calculation system. 

The reported case cannot be classified as a bug since this is a part of the regular gameplay. I have moved your topic to Game Discussion thread.

You are wrong again

These are NOT power points, and anyone with a decent calculator can see how power points are calculated

Divide by 40

If it is not a 'bug' then it is a mistake

Change the description in the quest

You make yourself look foolish pretending there is some secrecy in power point calculation - nothing in this game could be simpler


We have exactly the same quest in our league quests to destroy units and to build new units

It is very easy to prove that one dragon is worth 42 power points, not 1680

Base unit stat = 1680
Divide by 40 always gives 42 power points

Q.E.D.

Mar 21, 2018, 10:3303/21/18
Mar 21, 2018, 10:36(edited)
04/10/15
1437

Dear Lords

in one side you are right Lord Snowgoon. power points in regular quest as for example personal quest kill 500 power points in an enemy castle is calculated as you said, and besides this is the way as the plain xp is calculated too and winsdom points and pvp points.

example u kill a demon with basic stat as 415 and you divide by 40 and u will get 10.4 plain xp points or 10.4 power points for that quest.


however in mareth quest kill 8000 power points that points are calculated by the basic stat only

so if in that quest u kill one demon u will get 415 points or if you kill an archer you will receive 19 points.

so yep, maybe the title of the quest should be change


Regards
Mar 21, 2018, 10:4803/21/18
Mar 21, 2018, 10:52(edited)
12/13/14
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Juglar del Viento said:


however in mareth quest kill 8000 power points that points are calculated by the basic stat only

so if in that quest u kill one demon u will get 415 points or if you kill an archer you will receive 19 points.

so yep, maybe the title of the quest should be changed


Regards

Precisely my point

If they are not using power points then they should not call them power points

Bizarre that admin cannot see that


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Apr 17, 2018, 19:1604/17/18
12/18/14
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I was scrolling through cause I haven't been around much lately but I seen this post


I got this a while back I forget who gave it to me not sure if its correct or not cause personally IDC lol



http://prntscr.com/j6klth

Apr 20, 2018, 08:0704/20/18
04/10/15
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Jezebel said:


I was scrolling through cause I haven't been around much lately but I seen this post


I got this a while back I forget who gave it to me not sure if its correct or not cause personally IDC lol



http://prntscr.com/j6klth

it seems to be correct

also exist in forum on tutorials on post about them and the numbers seems correct

https://plarium.com/forum/en/stormfall-age-of-war/game-tutorials/35916_power-point-presentation-by-mehnslayer/

Regards

May 6, 2018, 05:0705/06/18
08/21/14
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The divide by 40 doesn't seem to be working for me.  I killed 100 Great Lords and a few paladins and archers the other day, along with 1 of my attacking dragons.  The power points awarded were 182.   The Great Lords alone should have been worth 900, right?
May 6, 2018, 05:5305/06/18
02/28/16
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Aegon Targaryen said:

The divide by 40 doesn't seem to be working for me.  I killed 100 Great Lords and a few paladins and archers the other day, along with 1 of my attacking dragons.  The power points awarded were 182.   The Great Lords alone should have been worth 900, right?
Nope, use great lords base def stats.
May 6, 2018, 15:5405/06/18
04/10/15
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Stormfall said:


Aegon Targaryen said:


The divide by 40 doesn't seem to be working for me.  I killed 100 Great Lords and a few paladins and archers the other day, along with 1 of my attacking dragons.  The power points awarded were 182.   The Great Lords alone should have been worth 900, right?
Nope, use great lords base def stats.

Lord Stormfall is right use the plain average def stats of the units

Regards
May 6, 2018, 20:0405/06/18
08/21/14
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I lost that report, so I don't know if that would work out.   I have a new report where I received 236 power points.   I attacked and killed 57 of 58 nomads, 1 wraith, and 1 bear rider, losing 3 attacking wyverns in the process.   I am unable to get the points to work out.  I used Nomad base state of 150, Wraith base stat of 60, Bear Rider base state of 30, and Wyvern base stat of 1440.  I divided each by 40 and multiplied the result by the number killed.



I also used the defensive stats of the Wyverns, and got much closer, but still in the 240s.  I averaged the Wyvern defensive stat to 374 before dividing by 40.  Assuming attacking units use offensive base stat (since they use defensive base stat when attacked), the 3 attacking wyverns that were killed should have been worth 108 points just themselves, right?


If not, then when do offensive stats get used?  Does the castle I attacked get 108 power points from killing my 3 wyverns while I do not?

Is there a deduction given to the attacking units that are lost?

May 6, 2018, 21:0005/06/18
May 6, 2018, 21:03(edited)
04/10/15
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Aegon Targaryen said:


I lost that report, so I don't know if that would work out.   I have a new report where I received 236 power points.   I attacked and killed 57 of 58 nomads, 1 wraith, and 1 bear rider, losing 3 attacking wyverns in the process.   I am unable to get the points to work out.  I used Nomad base state of 150, Wraith base stat of 60, Bear Rider base state of 30, and Wyvern base stat of 1440.  I divided each by 40 and multiplied the result by the number killed.



I also used the defensive stats of the Wyverns, and got much closer, but still in the 240s.  I averaged the Wyvern defensive stat to 374 before dividing by 40.  Assuming attacking units use offensive base stat (since they use defensive base stat when attacked), the 3 attacking wyverns that were killed should have been worth 108 points just themselves, right?


If not, then when do offensive stats get used?  Does the castle I attacked get 108 power points from killing my 3 wyverns while I do not?

Is there a deduction given to the attacking units that are lost?

Lord Aegon

when you attack, you get the points that we are talking about from the troops that the defender has loosen. that is why the average defensive stat divided by 40 is taken.

about the points that the defender could receive im not sure but certain its less that 108 points since u loose ur wyverns attacking and not defending. for example sometimes i send all my army against 50 demons for the quest 'kill 500 power points in an enemy castle'. i kill the 50 demons ... receive the rewards with zero looses, and the enemy castle only receive a bunch of points without killing anything. so the formula for defending should be another one.

ur 236 comes from 57 nomads * 3.57 + 0.75 from bear rider + 0.375 from wraith + some from the guards that the castle should have.

regards


May 6, 2018, 23:4005/06/18
08/21/14
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There were no guards lost.  The 57 nomads, single wraith, and single bear rider were the only defending units lost.  I assumed I was also given points for losing 3 of my wyvern, but if this is the case, then its a very small amount.  If its not the case, then...I don't know where the extra 20 points came from.



If the defender did not receive 108 points for killing my 3 wyvern, then in what situation does the offensive stat get used to determine power points?  A dragon is worth 42 and a wyvern is worth 36 in at least one situation.  What situation would this be if neither I nor the defender gets it when I lose a dragon or wyvern while attacking?

May 7, 2018, 00:1405/07/18
12/18/14
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I dont think we get points for wraiths not that it would make much difference in this case


May 7, 2018, 06:5405/07/18
May 7, 2018, 06:56(edited)
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Aegon Targaryen said:


There were no guards lost.  The 57 nomads, single wraith, and single bear rider were the only defending units lost.  I assumed I was also given points for losing 3 of my wyvern, but if this is the case, then its a very small amount.  If its not the case, then...I don't know where the extra 20 points came from.



If the defender did not receive 108 points for killing my 3 wyvern, then in what situation does the offensive stat get used to determine power points?  A dragon is worth 42 and a wyvern is worth 36 in at least one situation.  What situation would this be if neither I nor the defender gets it when I lose a dragon or wyvern while attacking?

Given that you receive a fifth of the power points of what you lose in a battle based on whether they are defending or attacking, having three of your wyverns destroyed while attacking would work out to twenty-one point six PvP, and are perhaps the missing points in the equation.


The defender receives full points for what they take out while defending, and vice versa.
May 7, 2018, 07:3105/07/18
May 7, 2018, 07:32(edited)
05/14/16
474

Lets be honest....yall talking about a continuously broken game that nobody has any intention of ever fixing.. Ever.


Not gonna happen, might as well watch grass grow or water boil. You will get better results.
May 7, 2018, 07:4405/07/18
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Knightmare said:

Lets be honest....yall talking about a continuously broken game that nobody has any intention of ever fixing.. Ever.


Not gonna happen, might as well watch grass grow or water boil. You will get better results.

Bashing your head against a brick wall can be fun... Technically, as brain damage sets in and your impulse control is significantly impaired, your definition of fun tends to change... Along with your quality of life and grasp of reality and- *pauses, thinks hard* Yeah, we really are beating a dead horse, aren't we?
May 7, 2018, 19:0405/07/18
08/21/14
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Insanity Talisman said:

Aegon Targaryen said:


There were no guards lost.  The 57 nomads, single wraith, and single bear rider were the only defending units lost.  I assumed I was also given points for losing 3 of my wyvern, but if this is the case, then its a very small amount.  If its not the case, then...I don't know where the extra 20 points came from.



If the defender did not receive 108 points for killing my 3 wyvern, then in what situation does the offensive stat get used to determine power points?  A dragon is worth 42 and a wyvern is worth 36 in at least one situation.  What situation would this be if neither I nor the defender gets it when I lose a dragon or wyvern while attacking?

Given that you receive a fifth of the power points of what you lose in a battle based on whether they are defending or attacking, having three of your wyverns destroyed while attacking would work out to twenty-one point six PvP, and are perhaps the missing points in the equation.


The defender receives full points for what they take out while defending, and vice versa.
Thanks.  This seems to have cleared up other reports still in my log as well.  So it seems the Wall of Tears will grant more points than the Hammer of Pain.  I miss sapphire settlements.
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