mistico said:

good evening to all dear players of st

ormfall.

after this last reward

maximum ask for advice: according to you use part of the latter to bring the highest field to the minimum and then go to try to get paid on other fields, in case of failure then break down the highest in the hope that you pay a middle ground or rebuild 15% of all this (which will take a lifetime) and then start again?

I wait for some hoped for advice.

greetings to all

sorry for the text. use google translate

you have to repay the BG bank so calculate what the reward was in resources and you will need to reload that much in resources plus the BG tax (10% ish) before playing for your next reward (you should ensure you are "loading" enough in to receive a reward for the level of BG you are planning to clear next time)

Lord Mistico

here goes some words about your nice payout on that level 92

that payout is equivalent to 75.790.000 resources,so another level 92 will pay you again when ur bank reaches that amount, so now you have to control 2 variables

one is that payout you got and that you have to control for every hit i will do in ur new run for another payout

second is the bank you have. i usually set my bank at 0 when i receive a big payout although still can be inside some remanent amount.

well in every hit you do since now you have to

first in payout variable substract the troops you kill in a bg, so u can calculate what a troop cost by the sum iron+gold - 5% tax

second adding in ur bank what u kill (iron+gold-5% tax) minus what balur payouts you (minipaouts) (in this case iron+gold)

in certain moment ur first variable will reach zero, so now any bg properly loaded will give u a big payout depending on ur bank, but sure its not going to be a level 92.

you have to keep killing bgs or yellowing them till the second variable (expenses - incomes) will reach arround the same amount you got in the pic you show.

hope this can help you

Regards.

first of all thanks for both answers.

secondly I would like to have your opinion on the method of bringing the highest to the lowest terms and using it as a lifeline if you can not then make payments on other fields.

I ask this because up to a year ago I used this method and worked very often (giving me a middle ground as a reward) now I have cheated several times, giving me a slight amount, despite having returned all the big payment.

my goal is not to accumulate a mighty army because I play exclusively in the fields but at least not to go back from high levels to low levels (like 30 for example) as I have happened several times lately.

Thanks again

Lord Mistico

here goes some words about your nice payout on that level 92

that payout is equivalent to 75.790.000 resources,so another level 92 will pay you again when ur bank reaches that amount, so now you have to control 2 variables

one is that payout you got and that you have to control for every hit i will do in ur new run for another payout

second is the bank you have. i usually set my bank at 0 when i receive a big payout although still can be inside some remanent amount.

well in every hit you do since now you have to

first in payout variable substract the troops you kill in a bg, so u can calculate what a troop cost by the sum iron+gold - 5% tax

second adding in ur bank what u kill (iron+gold-5% tax) minus what balur payouts you (minipaouts) (in this case iron+gold)

in certain moment ur first variable will reach zero, so now any bg properly loaded will give u a big payout depending on ur bank, but sure its not going to be a level 92.

you have to keep killing bgs or yellowing them till the second variable (expenses - incomes) will reach arround the same amount you got in the pic you show.

hope this can help you

Regards.

mistico said:

good evening to all dear players of st

ormfall.

after this last reward

maximum ask for advice: according to you use part of the latter to bring the highest field to the minimum and then go to try to get paid on other fields, in case of failure then break down the highest in the hope that you pay a middle ground or rebuild 15% of all this (which will take a lifetime) and then start again?

I wait for some hoped for advice.

greetings to all

sorry for the text. use google translate

you have to repay the BG bank so calculate what the reward was in resources and you will need to reload that much in resources plus the BG tax (10% ish) before playing for your next reward (you should ensure you are "loading" enough in to receive a reward for the level of BG you are planning to clear next time)

personally i would say keep the reward and build resource heavy troops for a bit so you can pay the bank back with built troops - yes it takes time but just putting it all back in won't get you what you are looking for

BiohazarD said:

In my experience the resource bank seems to count all resources, not just iron and gold.  

Yep, some lords uses all resources and other tax

i use only iron + gold and a tax of 5% :)

who knows who are right...all its so secret that nobody knows the truth. Maybe its out there.

Regards

It doesn't matter weather you use all resources. The bank will still be the same. 

In fact if you believe in dual bank, e.g offence bank being separate from defence, its beneficial to track one resource gold for green iron for red.

Oracle said:

It doesn't matter weather you use all resources. The bank will still be the same. 

In fact if you believe in dual bank, e.g offence bank being separate from defence, its beneficial to track one resource gold for green iron for red.

Nope, there is only one bank not one for defensive and other for ofensive so does not exist a dual bank

what i mean is that i only construct my bank with iron and gold and this bank its only one

in fact in low-medium bgs maybe adding all resources is not so significant. may be on high and over 100 levels it could affect. 

hope this can clarify the doubts

Regards

Juglar del Viento said:

Oracle said:

It doesn't matter weather you use all resources. The bank will still be the same. 

In fact if you believe in dual bank, e.g offence bank being separate from defence, its beneficial to track one resource gold for green iron for red.

Nope, there is only one bank not one for defensive and other for ofensive so does not exist a dual bank

what i mean is that i only construct my bank with iron and gold and this bank its only one

in fact in low-medium bgs maybe adding all resources is not so significant. may be on high and over 100 levels it could affect. 

hope this can clarify the doubts

Regards

Using all 3 resources seems more logical

This is because units with a high food cost gives more frequent payouts

Most big players say Pathfinders, Reavers and Chimera are better than other units because of high food costs to build (and therefore a better resource value when sacrificed)
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Lord Snowgoon

yep the logic said that using all resources is the correct. even me used to calculate all with the 3 resources till i was convinced for the opposite.

since that i use what i said.

still using only both resources, quimeras, pathfinders, reavers and huntress are the best troops for bgs. their ratio resources per day is the highest.

Regards

the only units that have the value of food superior to iron and gold are the silent ones.

would it make sense to use them for battle fields?

mistico said:

the only units that have the value of food superior to iron and gold are the silent ones.

would it make sense to use them for battle fields?

Lord Mistico

people uses it but not me. finally the bank i use only enters iron and gold and have no sense the way i do

but we can wait to see what pros say :)

Regards

the only units that have the value of food superior to iron and gold are the silent ones.

would it make sense to use them for battle fields?

yes I have the chimeras I asked this only because they are the only units to have food superior to gold and iron

Juglar del Viento said:

Oracle said:

It doesn't matter weather you use all resources. The bank will still be the same. 

In fact if you believe in dual bank, e.g offence bank being separate from defence, its beneficial to track one resource gold for green iron for red.

Nope, there is only one bank not one for defensive and other for ofensive so does not exist a dual bank

what i mean is that i only construct my bank with iron and gold and this bank its only one

in fact in low-medium bgs maybe adding all resources is not so significant. may be on high and over 100 levels it could affect. 

hope this can clarify the doubts

Regards

I don't use dual bank, I only heard about it when I was seeking enlightenment on BG some of eons ago. 

But the method is effective because the player who use it rarerly played BG. Basically he track gold value, and we it reach X bank he complete y green BG. His banks were significantly lower than what we have here. Iron is then tracked and use for red. 

Note that all resources required to build a unit are tracked. So if an Archer is build both iron and gold recquired to build it are tracked, and if it aligns with a bank for red then red is attacked. 

No laws are broken of banking. So I think it can work. Though I don't recommend it for regular players. 

Oracle said:

I don't use dual bank, I only heard about it when I was seeking enlightenment on BG some of eons ago. 

But the method is effective because the player who use it rarerly played BG. Basically he track gold value, and we it reach X bank he complete y green BG. His banks were significantly lower than what we have here. Iron is then tracked and use for red. 

Not that all resources required to build a unit are tracked. So if an Archer is build both iron and gold reacquired to build it are tracked, and if it aligns with a bank for red then red is attacked. 

No laws are broken of banking. So I think it can work. Though I son recommend it for regular players. 

Lord Oracle

once more, nobody uses dual bank cause dual bank does not exist

bg bank or the variable they use to control the payout is only one and its made with iron+gold -5%

LoL

Correct

I will try to explain, latter, You will understand   methodology is  same. 

mistico said:

yes I have the chimeras I asked this only because they are the only units to have food superior to gold and iron

Spies are a useful source of resources for the banking system and can be sent to red or green bg

A few players from Unofficial Stormfall Community on Facebook claim it also affects the type of reward payout

Juglar del Viento said:

Oracle said:

It doesn't matter weather you use all resources. The bank will still be the same. 

In fact if you believe in dual bank, e.g offence bank being separate from defence, its beneficial to track one resource gold for green iron for red.

Nope, there is only one bank not one for defensive and other for ofensive so does not exist a dual bank

what i mean is that i only construct my bank with iron and gold and this bank its only one

in fact in low-medium bgs maybe adding all resources is not so significant. may be on high and over 100 levels it could affect. 

hope this can clarify the doubts

Regards

I don't use dual bank, I only heard about it when I was seeking enlightenment on BG some of eons ago. 

But the method is effective because the player who use it rarerly played BG. Basically he track gold value, and we it reach X bank he complete y green BG. His banks were significantly lower than what we have here. Iron is then tracked and use for red. 

Not that all resources required to build a unit are tracked. So if an Archer is build both iron and gold reacquired to build it are tracked, and if it aligns with a bank for red then red is attacked. 

No laws are broken of banking. So I think it can work. Though I son recommend it for regular players. 

Silent Ones may have a higher Food to metal ratio, but their weekly resource value sucks.  Silent Ones : 600k.  Chimeras : 1.6m.

Resource value in this order : Chimeras (1.62m), PFs (1.31m), Reavers (1.21m), Dragons (1.17m), Wyverns (1.06m), Demons (1.03m), Griffins (1.02m), Golems/Barbarians (1.01m), Necro (0.95m), Nomad (0.93m), Warlock (0.88m), Great Lord (0.79m), Huntress (0.75m), Knight (0.73m), Paladin (0.66m), Pike/Silent One (0.60m), Archer (0.40m).  This does not take into account training speed bonuses.

Offensive bests per oven are PFs, Reavers, Necros, Chimeras.  Defensive bests per oven are Huntresses, Nomads, Golems, and Griffins.

Nomads over Barbs due to 10% higher food %.  Golem over Demon due to 11% higher food %.

Absolute highest BG weekly banking is to build only Chimeras*, PFs, Reavers, and Demons/Golems.  It does not matter whether you send to offensive or defensive, though if you want more Griffins than Dragons and Wyverns, you may need to utilize DJMOODY's comments above to achieve this.

Quest/Tournament rewards may mean that increased BG kills offset max banking and therefore mean use O and D only for their associated BGs.

*I'm not convinced that building chimeras for BGs is better than just building Dragons and Wyverns, as they're the whole purpose of BGs.  I'd rather use the beastie oven to build whatever beastie I need at that time.  Still, the extra rewards for BG tourneys and quests may make the potential for increased BG kills worth using Chimeras.


NOTE: I'd like to give credit to Xestos, of Legacy, for the creation of tables the above information was extracted from.  I have verified most of the information and trust the whole.