Lord Random

i think u should be awarded with items class 4 from levels 70's if i remember right

so if u still receive stuff bellow class 4 hitting those high leves i think there is some kind of error unless the levels had changed and im wrong

please send a ticket to support to check ur account to see what is happening. the link is: https://plariumsupport.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

Do you have any of baestiary lost arts discovered?

haha yea level 91 bg and he doesnt have discovered  any bestiary unit, o my god this is fast develompent level 91 and be so fresh player :p,how fast develop coiners :p

zapelo said:

Do you have any of baestiary lost arts discovered?

If not there is your answer.

Thank you, I will stay away BGs until then.

sison said:

haha yea level 91 bg and he doesnt have discovered  any bestiary unit, o my god this is fast develompent level 91 and be so fresh player :p,how fast develop coiners :p

I completely missed your post.. First off I will tell right up front, the only thing worse than getting passed up by a coiner, is getting passed up by a non-coiner so I'm going to give you a few tips from a non-coiner.

1. Get your your markets to level 22, thieves guild to 20, keep paragon active and warehouses/barns to 20 also and start raiding like a boss.

2. Build  boat loads of silent ones and make your raids count by spying first. Keep all 4 queues full at all times and log in often to complete events and quests.

3. Send any non essential units at your highest BG as long as you have the art needed to collect the items you desire.

4. Be willing to put it all on the line at all times and play your game around what matters most, your league and your personal ally's and spend more time making friends than enemy's.

Cheers.. :)

RandomDrop said:

zapelo said:

Do you have any of baestiary lost arts discovered?

If not there is your answer.

Thank you, I will stay away BGs until then.

it's a terrible Idea to be hitting BG that high. After 2 years of Playing I am still struggling to hit a level 50 BG. Staying below level 40 is the best. You can increase them to 60 if you want tier 4. But, tier 1 are not that bad either. 

At that high level, you tend to level way to fast.

The best way to play if you are not a coiner is to leave your BG below level 8, for the first 3 moths, these way you can complete them all. When you reach level 40, you stop doing BG and build up to 15K pikes and 10K archers. These you use to win Tournament, and earn soulstones. You can win every tournament that way. By the time you reach level 54 you will be having a level 3 walls. Join a good league, or create one and keep winning tournaments. 

Withing 1 years you will be having level 4 walls, 4 craftsmen, and a level 22 market, plus a Thiefs guild level 21. I did all these without spending in the Untamed land.

participating in BG tournaments below level 61 is the best way to win sapphires. After level 61, your only chance is in the Hamlet harvest. 

I recived common boots on lvl 170...and mystical lvl4 on lvl 100...so it is a lottery.

Oracle said:

RandomDrop said:

zapelo said:

Do you have any of baestiary lost arts discovered?

If not there is your answer.

Thank you, I will stay away BGs until then.

it's a terrible Idea to be hitting BG that high. After 2 years of Playing I am still struggling to hit a level 50 BG. Staying below level 40 is the best. You can increase them to 60 if you want tier 4. But, tier 1 are not that bad either. 

At that high level, you tend to level way to fast.

The best way to play if you are not a coiner is to leave your BG below level 8, for the first 3 moths, these way you can complete them all. When you reach level 40, you stop doing BG and build up to 15K pikes and 10K archers. These you use to win Tournament, and earn soulstones. You can win every tournament that way. By the time you reach level 54 you will be having a level 3 walls. Join a good league, or create one and keep winning tournaments. 

Withing 1 years you will be having level 4 walls, 4 craftsmen, and a level 22 market, plus a Thiefs guild level 21. I did all these without spending in the Untamed land.

participating in BG tournaments below level 61 is the best way to win sapphires. After level 61, your only chance is in the Hamlet harvest. 

ORACLE how long did it take for you to figure out how to break a siege?

"After 2 years of Playing I am still struggling to hit a level 50 BG." OMG are u serious

"But, tier 1 are not that bad either" i guess your troops are composed of infantry

"The best way to play if you are not a coiner is to leave your BG below level 8, for the first 3 moths, these way you can complete them all." what a load of nonsense ..... just to throw a bone to you .... If you complete them all every day you can not stay bellow lvl 8..... i'm not even going to comment on staying bellow level 8

"participating in BG tournaments below level 61 is the best way to win sapphires. After level 61, your only chance is in the Hamlet harvest." how does that even make sense

My advice to this is not to take ORACLE's advice.

P.S. I'm amused when i read advice from a player that did not know how to break a siege after two years of playing 

RandomDrop said:

DrFondles said:

Well said RandomDrop

Thanks DrFondles,

In regards to your earlier post I consider what I have done to be a HUGE mistake. I sacrificed too much for almost no gain except a few sapphires in tourney rewards. My first reaction when I read ZAPELO'S post and realized what happened was to quit playing this game but that isn't going to happen. The troops are easy enough to get back and time wasted was minimal.

Doing the earlier tourneys or tourneys in general isn't a mistake. If you ever check out s3 look at me. I've grown decent, level 93 right now. With doing PvP And Bgs. I try to be top ten each week for saphs, and to also look good for my league. And choosing what tourney's you participate in will help you out in the long run Random :) I'd rather have a good start to a tourney with  15k top payout, and 5k top ten. Then go ham at a 2700 saph top payout. Just be more picky on what battles you choose and you will grow ALOT. If you ever join server 3, come join my league :) Would love to have an active Intelligent player like you. 

Have a good day Lord

zapelo said:

ORACLE how long did it take for you to figure out how to break a siege?

"After 2 years of Playing I am still struggling to hit a level 50 BG." OMG are u serious

"But, tier 1 are not that bad either" i guess your troops are composed of infantry

"The best way to play if you are not a coiner is to leave your BG below level 8, for the first 3 moths, these way you can complete them all." what a load of nonsense ..... just to throw a bone to you .... If you complete them all every day you can not stay bellow lvl 8..... i'm not even going to comment on staying bellow level 8

"participating in BG tournaments below level 61 is the best way to win sapphires. After level 61, your only chance is in the Hamlet harvest." how does that even make sense

My advice to this is not to take ORACLE's advice.

P.S. I'm amused when i read advice from a player that did not know how to break a siege after two years of playing 

I don’t know why I am even answering, In terms of BG there are three types of terms used, saga BG, which are saga BG, not really BG and are independent of regular BG in terms of bank

 BG, regular BG, these include offensive and defensive BG, D BG, for defensive battlegrounds, O Bg for Offensive BG

Quest BG, the highest regular battleground in your eagle nest, it can be defensive or offensive. Thus completing. So in my reply above, I was using these terms, and like all players communicate using these terms.

Completing all BG, means completing all regular BG in the eagle nest, completing quest BG means completing the highest B in your eagle nest, and thus moving to the next stage.

With my reason as to why a non coiner shouldn’t level above level 50, refer to any BG bank spreadsheet, then analyse it together with buildtime spreadsheet, and you will realise, that it's statistically impossible to stay competitive at level 90 BG without coining. And with complaints that have been submitted here, time and time again that BG are ‘’bugged’’ I wonder why I you would advise a player to also be doomed to the same fate. I have spoken with many players in the top BG rankings, and many wish they could just get back to doing level 1-50 BG, and the have been many suggestion put forward in those regards.  

I already answered the question with reagrds to sieges, refer to my answer given in the past

RandomDrop said:

I cant tell if your talking down to to someone,or just missed the point of the thread so here is a recap.

1. You cannot collect class 2 items until you have discovered horsemanship nor can you buy the chests.

2. You cannot collect class 3 items until you have discovered occult arts nor can you buy the chests.

3. You cannot collect class 4 items until you have discovered griffins pendant nor can you buy the chests.

In 6 months of active play I totally missed this aspect of the game and as a result missed out on 31 class 4 items while losing millions in troops.

I will let you in on a secret, Try scroll poaching. I have seen it done many times. You join an active league, with a good scroll master, like KT on S2 and ask for scrolls every chance you get. but next week you will be building Chimeras.  Just make sure you talk a lot in chat, make good joke, and when some type LOL, copy and paste these in the chat. ''Does anyone have X scroll''.  When you have enough scroll you move in to another league. Also try to ask around who is the best scroll master, they normally take gold and iron even food and give you scrolls. 

But you really shouldn't be doing BG that high. 

Oracle said:

I don’t know why I am even answering, 

Many of us have wondered the same question...

I have to justify everything I say. But it will wear out soon, after you guys accept that I am your new moderator. 

RandomDrop said:

Lords and Ladies,

I have taken my battlegrounds up to level 91 and have net yet seen one class 4 items, everyone I have met that has them says something is wrong and should get them at a much lower level.

Is this a bug or just bad luck or has something changed?

You will quickly regret collecting Class 4 hero avatar items because they are near impossible to upgrade, and Mythicals are scarce - You will need to sell thousands of unwanted items to get enough Moon Coins.
You will also find a huge variation in the strength of these items (exc rings) so will need to discard many

I find Cavalry Items bad enough and refuse to attempt Occult or Bestiary yet

I have gathered many mystical lvl 4 items myself. Yes, it did take many MANY items to sell to upgrade them. But I had also waited to see what mystical items are some of the highest stats. For all you know you may get the lowest base stat one, upgrade it to 3, and then gain a new item that is the same but stronger by a few percent. I waited to see what the highest percentile would be for each mystical item, it will make a difference in the long run (a year or two)

DrFondles said:

I have gathered many mystical lvl 4 items myself. Yes, it did take many MANY items to sell to upgrade them. But I had also waited to see what mystical items are some of the highest stats. For all you know you may get the lowest base stat one, upgrade it to 3, and then gain a new item that is the same but stronger by a few percent. I waited to see what the highest percentile would be for each mystical item, it will make a difference in the long run (a year or two)

You have more patience than most. Most want instantly the best items money can buy. I wait. I am slowly getting better items.

DrFondles said:

I have gathered many mystical lvl 4 items myself. Yes, it did take many MANY items to sell to upgrade them. But I had also waited to see what mystical items are some of the highest stats. For all you know you may get the lowest base stat one, upgrade it to 3, and then gain a new item that is the same but stronger by a few percent. I waited to see what the highest percentile would be for each mystical item, it will make a difference in the long run (a year or two)

You have more patience than most. Most want instantly the best items money can buy. I wait. I am slowly getting better items.