League in this game? best coverage for alts, stressed others and ask for help to the league to make bullies

example: the best always without active tournaments and unnecessarily stressed out the largest castles and also ask if you want to get into league with a fake approximate language, as though they were captains

Plarium does not have control of his game, thanks for the damage they cause me your alts

do not tell me the support, which has already a lot of my report and has also offered me a refund lost defensive troops with some well-known names, admission of guilt of his castles?

a typical alt

classic one best alts league

a typical pm, joke ppl or Plarium team

this game is too fake, realize this dear Plarium

Now also new leagues, starting with 4-5 beacons and the best castle in ranking... is too fake all

jumy

Now also new leagues, starting with 4-5 beacons and the best castle in ranking... is too fake all

What "new" league starts with any beacons?

There are a few "new" leagues formed from long term players that can, and do, hold several beacons, but what are you talking about?

League in this game? best coverage for alts, stressed others and ask for help to the league to make bullies

example: the best always without active tournaments and unnecessarily stressed out the largest castles and also ask if you want to get into league with a fake approximate language, as though they were captains

Plarium does not have control of his game, thanks for the damage they cause me your alts

do not tell me the support, which has already a lot of my report and has also offered me a refund lost defensive troops with some well-known names, admission of guilt of his castles?

a typical alt

classic one best alts league

a typical pm, joke ppl or Plarium team

this game is too fake, realize this dear Plarium

Now also new leagues, starting with 4-5 beacons and the best castle in ranking... is too fake all

Aaron KT1 said:

jumy

Now also new leagues, starting with 4-5 beacons and the best castle in ranking... is too fake all

What "new" league starts with any beacons?

There are a few "new" leagues formed from long term players that can, and do, hold several beacons, but what are you talking about?

alts members and entire sisters alts leagues, or the touch Plarium?

djmoody said:

Someone played that account reasonably hard to get 55m raiding points.

Then they left the game but handed the account to someone else on leaving. That someone else logs in every day to build troops now and uses it as an alt. It would make a good spy account as many leagues would see the level and accept the account willingly.

That is how I would see that account if it applied to my league. I'd probably accept it so I could see the troop numbers on it (probably low because the player lost their troops which is why the quit in the first place). 

If it had some troops and showed some raiding/growth I might eat my initial thoughts with humble pie and accept its a real player, who played hard then dropped out for a bit and came back.

probable but Plarium has no control over his game, why should i lose troops with these ghosts?

I play on the Dark Plains server and we are postion 167. There are 5x as many stronger leagues now than when this league was made.

Any league above us will put up some kind of a fight league postion is going to keep geting harder to hold on to where we are now. I plan on
going into action more soon to improve the level we are at now.  

dj moody said:

What server do you play and what position is your league in that server?

Probably the best advice I could give to a new league is don't over extend yourself. If you start a war then you should know what you are up against. 

Sun Tzu said

"If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles."

Too many times I have seen small leagues jump into edge beacon territory at beacon spawn just to be crushed. The demoralising effect this has normally ends the league.

For newer leagues to get a feel for their relative strength in the game, diplo is a must (suck up every little bit of info you can from other people).

  

I play on the Dark Plains server and we are postion 167. There are 5x as many stronger leagues now than when this league was made.

Any league above us will put up some kind of a fight league postion is going to keep geting harder to hold on to where we are now. I plan on
going into action more soon to improve the level we are at now.  

dj moody said:

What server do you play and what position is your league in that server?

Probably the best advice I could give to a new league is don't over extend yourself. If you start a war then you should know what you are up against. 

Sun Tzu said

"If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles."

Too many times I have seen small leagues jump into edge beacon territory at beacon spawn just to be crushed. The demoralising effect this has normally ends the league.

For newer leagues to get a feel for their relative strength in the game, diplo is a must (suck up every little bit of info you can from other people).

As time goes on the stronger players and leagues make it harder to capture beacons... Yeah the numbers are tough it has raised 3 times flatly in the last 2 years....  60 mil now if not more i guess you have to trust your sources when it comes to how strong other leagues are... The weaker league will be purged out of beacon territory for much longer to come...

brunsonthomas said:

ANBU Danzo Shimura said:

  

I play on the Dark Plains server and we are postion 167. There are 5x as many stronger leagues now than when this league was made.

Any league above us will put up some kind of a fight league postion is going to keep geting harder to hold on to where we are now. I plan on
going into action more soon to improve the level we are at now.  

dj moody said:

What server do you play and what position is your league in that server?

Probably the best advice I could give to a new league is don't over extend yourself. If you start a war then you should know what you are up against. 

Sun Tzu said

"If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles."

Too many times I have seen small leagues jump into edge beacon territory at beacon spawn just to be crushed. The demoralising effect this has normally ends the league.

For newer leagues to get a feel for their relative strength in the game, diplo is a must (suck up every little bit of info you can from other people).

I agree except even leagues close to being powerful enough to take a keep a beacon but have not done so are often misinformed what the sheer numbers of offense and defense required to take and keep a beacon even with alliances and treaties.

djmoody said:

I saw you get a league achievement yesterday.

I guess your name was in my mind because of your thread. GL with the league.

Good Questions DJmoody thank you for your help with the thread... Good luck to you and all the other league out there. I'm here to help my league, the game and other leagues any way I can..

 Everyone who commented on this thread helped reach out to future players and current and give them a little more encouragement and insight on the game and let them know that they their is support out their to help them if they need it. The forum is about the community everyone benefits from a healthy game community.

i,d like to know why people believe or even bother with beacons ..i have been with leagues / beacons they are a total waste of time

leagues expect new / low lvl players to help defend them for a very small amount of darkening ..which is now worthless also .

U spend all your time building def to have some coiner league come along and smash the whole thing ..so ending many peoples game .?

How many times this happens .?lol i think anarchy had the right idea at the start ..no beacons just smash those that do have them ..

some will say its the prestige of the league ..rofl ..if that was the case then why was several large leagues worried when anarchy first started .?

I personally will never join a league to have my def sitting there for the sake of there precious beacon ..and a tiny bit of useless darkening .

several leagues who have beacons ..think that by being friends with every other league there is ..it will keep there useless beacon safe HENCE THE FELLOWSHIP LEAGUES ...lol

Mean while u have just taken the main game play away from members ..WAR. I have spoken to lots of people in regards to beacons many have the same thoughts ..including Marshall,s .They are pointless.

I prefer no allies / very few  friends ..Pvp is so much easier and i dont need to purchase any boost..

if i choose to use def then its in my castle where it belongs ...i choose when and where to kill it ..not some league and there useless beacon .

seeker said:

i,d like to know why people believe or even bother with beacons ..i have been with leagues / beacons they are a total waste of time

leagues expect new / low lvl players to help defend them for a very small amount of darkening ..which is now worthless also .

U spend all your time building def to have some coiner league come along and smash the whole thing ..so ending many peoples game .?

How many times this happens .?lol i think anarchy had the right idea at the start ..no beacons just smash those that do have them ..

some will say its the prestige of the league ..rofl ..if that was the case then why was several large leagues worried when anarchy first started .?

I personally will never join a league to have my def sitting there for the sake of there precious beacon ..and a tiny bit of useless darkening .

several leagues who have beacons ..think that by being friends with every other league there is ..it will keep there useless beacon safe HENCE THE FELLOWSHIP LEAGUES ...lol

Mean while u have just taken the main game play away from members ..WAR. I have spoken to lots of people in regards to beacons many have the same thoughts ..including Marshall,s .They are pointless.

I prefer no allies / very few friends ..Pvp is so much easier and i dont need to purchase any boost..

if i choose to use def then its in my castle where it belongs ...i choose when and where to kill it ..not some league and there useless beacon .

you sound to be at the beginer stages of the game you need to apply more theory, methods, and structure to your game play...

the bigger picture is long term investments and being politicaly correct as it comes to our server and how most leagues operate and function with other leagues...

We have all these tools and mechanics to track our growth and rally together as leagues to grow our abilities...It comes down to how smart the person at the command of a league is...

 if you are not very smart and cultured and educated on strategy you're going to fall into every trap listed by you and never learn to pull your self out.. i'm going to edit this post since i'm in a rush later...

i will also slowly in time take you up on that challenge as ii explain more and more how my league came to be and how other leagues rised up...

You can use the cheap excuse of coiner being the back bone but there's a more deeper story behind Real time stratgey games... And yes i do plan on invest lots into the game..

i'll refer you the my begginers guide to leagues which has helped many new players in hopes that they never become like you or who ever you're talking about who have run into problems growing. all they will know is my methods, theories, and beliefs.. which has done wonders for my league and estaablishing it's self on the server...

certain types of player atitudes need to be adressed and one of them is the types throwing pitty parties...



      My guide 4600 views and growing and it has had a huge impact on new players and leagues including in my league. i ahvent adessed league structure and castle management which includes daily production and i can estimate where the threats from other leagues are and what they actualy intend on doing and looking like in the long term..

i've seen anarchy in some action, have seen other league face them, talked to some high up players about them and crusher him self.. smart guys. they shouldn't be seen as reason not to start a new league.



http://plarium.com/forum/en/stormfall-age-of-war/game-tutorials/topics/new-players-and-starting-a-league-advice--/

i,m actually far from a begginer ..I would agree yes there are a lot of Marshalls /leagues who have the notion that a strong league is based on large members ..that is totally incorrect.

The higher the numbers in my experience also means lots of long ago,s and inactive players .The strength of a league does not come from numbers but more from the ..how many active players .And even this is becoming a struggle to gain active players as many either start get to lvl 30-40 then realise the grab for money and time needed to grow larger.or just bored with the game due to not being able to compete

this is also clear in league quests ..more numbers less active players rewards are lower / the league with less members but active..?

still can gain elite reward packs more often .I have shown that I personally believe ..there a total waste of time .i,m not the only player who agrees to that .

the question was ..why do leagues / members / players..have the notion that a beacon league is safer  or stronger .Its a game myth .

I agree with Seeker. I am in a league with multiple beacons and few dozens inactive accounts. In any other league they would have been kicked out long ago but in mine they are kept because of millions of defence they have in the beacons. And as you can guess we have problems in getting Elite Rewards in League quests.

I have read the write up for new players ..Although there is couple of points i would not advise new/low level players to do

1 ..i would never advise new/ low lvl players to attempt collecting from  hamlets ..there like beacons ..u sit there waiting to be creamed .

even higher lvl players dont bother and  obviously there,s a reason why .?

the only time i would suggest any type of game play for hamlets would be for some fast  pvp ..guaranteed u will lose .

2 bg,s i would not suggest new players do more than the bottom 2 ..and top one.when first starting ..Def bg tends to pay better..even then take there time dont try bust it all in one go . they must  at least build palli/ pikes..Archers / dwarfs... i would suggest dont do them at all .unless u can build those at minimum .

3 i would be guiding them more towards the pvp side of game play Thats what the game is all about and many fail to see that ...also  the only way of getting a partial benefit  [depending on your knowledge of course] in the whole game

For what u kill and lose in bg,s ..the equal of that in pvp would of got u a lot more overall .

some people dont like to war  only build and collect troops  ..if thats there style of game play then i would suggest they join a beacon league

Off topic, I would like Jumy to do a Q&A on twitch or some other streaming platform where he can use his majestic way with broken/pidgeon english to help us all understand better, the game of Stormfall.

why was he banned? it surely cannot have been from his constant moaning and complaining on these forums?

seeker said:

i,d like to know why people believe or even bother with beacons ..i have been with leagues / beacons they are a total waste of time

leagues expect new / low lvl players to help defend them for a very small amount of darkening ..which is now worthless also .

U spend all your time building def to have some coiner league come along and smash the whole thing ..so ending many peoples game .?

How many times this happens .?lol i think anarchy had the right idea at the start ..no beacons just smash those that do have them ..

some will say its the prestige of the league ..rofl ..if that was the case then why was several large leagues worried when anarchy first started .?

I personally will never join a league to have my def sitting there for the sake of there precious beacon ..and a tiny bit of useless darkening .

several leagues who have beacons ..think that by being friends with every other league there is ..it will keep there useless beacon safe HENCE THE FELLOWSHIP LEAGUES ...lol

Mean while u have just taken the main game play away from members ..WAR. I have spoken to lots of people in regards to beacons many have the same thoughts ..including Marshall,s .They are pointless.

I prefer no allies / very few  friends ..Pvp is so much easier and i dont need to purchase any boost..

if i choose to use def then its in my castle where it belongs ...i choose when and where to kill it ..not some league and there useless beacon .

Well I just went over my past notes i was wondering the samething long ago... I set out to find out what ways the best.... what better way than to learn from history.... so I gained a lot of knowledge of the game long ago..... I set up a league on the facebook server and began trying to make it their... came to the conclusion it would take more time and work doing that... i settled for looking at the top leagues and what they have, requireents for joining to guess how strong they are and how long will it take leagues here to catch up... numbers always got thrown around to lots of players in diffrent leagues... i picked up on some of thos numbers and rumors of who planning for what and you can tell by the setting and context when it was more serious....

Here goes some of todays numbers of the facebook server compared to our Dark Plains Server.
 Face book server current rankings for ofe
#1 FB server now ofense 28140.954k       #1 our server 15109.260k    Our servers strongest player is half as strong as the #1 on the FB.. there are much more stronger players on the fb server and spanning across a wider variety of leagues.... so our strongest player is more dangerous than FBs strongest player since there's less competition and this server is about half as old as the dark plains server so we're looking at a game changer at first glance....

Once you have the rest of the data i gathered you start to get why beacon leagues.... 

Postion ranking for raids and defense mimicks the same as for ofense,... only half as strong....

Wars all time greatest war on the FB server and our server is another game changer.... I'm listing their position in corelation to how much points they scored while at war and how long the war was after listing this i will list leagues and their positions corelation to how many beacons they hold it's also a game changer when you're thinking why beacons....

FB server #1 war position 101 lost vs postion 730    18779213-25560625    214 days victor.... Compared to our server position 42 vs49 still going on but i give it to die blutigie horde since they're unique and not a clone like i feel the super natural leagues are and are currently leading..... 3372653-3591012 300+days active

Add into play the position of all of the rest of the league postion 1-3k and you have a clear message why beacons.....

I did this by league position and how many league they have and i'd like to point out the drop in # of beacons in comparison to the positions as the lower the positon they are the less beacons they have following a pattern of drops until  past position 999 which has only 1 beacon and every thing past 1k i saw no beacons in any of their leagues after checking a handful between 1k-3k

Positon 1/ 45 beacons
 Position 24/ 36 beacons
Positon 58/ 24 beacons
 Position 104/ 13 beacons
Position 160/ 11 beacons
 Position 271/ 5 beacons
Position 366/ 3 beacons
 Position 429/ 5 beacons
Position 574/ 1 beacon
 Positon 717/  1 beacon
position  999/ 1 beacon..

i'll not search & destroy held #1 position for some time when i first started playing....

 years alter orgin took it years after that it seems foriegn nationality leagues took the top 3 positions..... I do consider a league of one nationality as having a stronger player base due to the whole leagues having lots more in common....

Positons 1-34 seem pretty close in strength defenitly diffrent playing styles can be observed... position 104-160 seem to be close in cpabilities...same said for position 271-429 and positions 574-999 all have only 1 beacon it seems....

I'm pretty sure if you don't have the theory capabilities and war experience your going to get pushed out to the lower levels probably all the way to the point of having no beacons...

 Our server is sort of mimicking the FB server with our server being half as strong, half as old and less than a quarter of the players, beacons, leagues and overall offense... seem their is alot to be fighting for and if you are just sitting growing maybe you won't be as strong... every unit dead is experience gained and you probably won't let them di...e the same way again.... I'd even say a player who lost more offense is stronger than a player who lost less even if their current offense is equal....

apply that to the fight for beacons it's a race not to get pushed out for most leagues and i realized that and worked on making sure that's not going to be the league i created.....
  
  
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