Hello Commander:

I had brought up a topic awhile ago, and I think it's hit the archive by now!  Although you bring up a real topic here, that brings up Diplomacy... and how large this has become on our server.  Sometimes holding back on that revenge strike, is something real!  Sometimes it's someone looking to get a rise and will never admit to attacking first but will tell his alliance that you attacked and that their almighty alliance should rain down on top of you.

Diplomacy has become a crucial factor in this game, as there is always someone larger that can come and take your army away.  I think you bring up another valid point that as major alliance we should come together and talk about..  When is enough, enough on a lower level target?  

I think as a server and community it's a good topic to raise, as you mention we are losing players.  I know a lot of alliances have started academies and well we try to teach them in our academies what will get you zero'd and such on the server and help them grow.. I'm sure you've seen as well though... How many times do you have to put out who your allies, and NAPs are, and they still go and strike first.. and it's like man, I tried to help you grow and now your just putting my whole alliance in a conundrum. 

Hello! Interesting topic for discussion. Unfortunately, I can't share my thoughts because I don't play the game actively (just for tests).

Will be glad to hear other players' opinions. 

Sparhawk122 said:

When I attack players I usually only hit them once. Not over and over which I think is wrong. No matter if it is just a game. 

I must say the same goes for me.  I really can't think of someone I've Zeroed.  Plus once you hit the max raiding of RSS from a base what's the point other then to kill his/her units?

ethics? in a game where it is allowed to attack in anonymity? where you can never know the power of the enemy? are we kidding? now even the missiles have an unknown power. but let's do it. in a war game I must 

1. know my enemy 

2. understand how much strength he has 

3. know how much damage I do in attack. 

If this information is kept secret by plarium and these anonymous behaviors are managed and tolerated by plarium, do not talk to me about ethics, because I will be unethical.

@ wittygamer:

"I had brought up a topic awhile ago, and I think it's hit the archive by now! Although you bring up a real topic here, that brings up Diplomacy... and how large this has become on our server"

I originally wasn't here when you posted it but i had a look and yes you are right diplomacy and the steps taken to achieve it are important, just like any other tool in the game..

for those with a curious mind, here's the link to what was said: 

https://plarium.com/forum/en/soldiers-inc-mobile-warfare/archive/68022_labor-day-topic--diplomacy---how-do-you-handle-/?post=378318

Whether its stop peace talks turning into a one vs one title match or to create support for a royal rumble cage match.

"I think you bring up another valid point that as major alliance we should come together and talk about.. When is enough, enough on a lower level target?"

I don't think or can see a reason why any top tier team will go out of their way as an entire alliance move to pick on a team below 1000 (not saying lower ranked teams are innocent). But i do know that especially in the race to collect points whether its raid/attack that individual members can wipe-out these alliances by themselves. As the abstract version of the saying goes " the chocolate fondant rolls downhill" 

"It's almost like Risk!  "

Lol exactly what i think everytime i look at the alliance map

"How many times do you have to put out who your allies, and NAPs are... I tried to help you grow... "

You can do everything pass on sage old advice, tell them the tips and tricks and what danger signs to look out for but at end of day they want to learn by doing, they want to fly straight into the nearest HQ/BS, they want to be in a war and you tell them no, no you don't want to do all those because this and this happens.

This must be what it feels like to be a parent. 

Sparhawk122 said:

When I attack players I usually only hit them once. Not over and over which I think is wrong. No matter if it is just a game. 

Normally i'd agree and say not me. But that would be a lie. I admit i've done it once un-intentionally. Looking back, i probably shouldn't have taken it that far (which is also why i wrote this post) at the time it felt like a win. But then  when I realised he had gone and the dust settled my leader brain re-took control and apologised to his team for making them lose a member.

At the time he was being a little s...silly billy just because I was a man alone and he was in one of the top teams. also remember he wouldnt stop attacking despite my initial warning shots, then bombing, then leaving him to it for like a week then a verbal ultimatum " Strike one more time and you will have my full attention. You've been warned"  which of course he ignored and I made sure he got my attention for a whole weekend. Even let his alliance know the story, willing to show proof, telling them basically "Hey, this fight, is between me and him, you can do whatever, i don't care about your alliance but know this, he's mine"  

RuTHLeSS BCY said:

ethics? in a game where it is allowed to attack in anonymity? where you can never know the power of the enemy? are we kidding? now even the missiles have an unknown power. but let's do it. in a war game I must 

1. know my enemy 

2. understand how much strength he has 

3. know how much damage I do in attack. 

If this information is kept secret by plarium and these anonymous behaviors are managed and tolerated by plarium, do not talk to me about ethics, because I will be unethical.

I do get your point, everyone has a right to defend themselves but remember if you are asking to basically see behind the red veil you've also got to be willing to show whats behind yours. 

Not sure how they would go about doing it, maybe with every scout you send to recon a base if its successful and you get to see whats in the base maybe the scout should leave a note telling that base how much firepower you have. who knows maybe they'll re-tweak the missiles concept or better yet give the color guard something to do and turn that truck into an anti-missile rocket. 

Lurker said:

RuTHLeSS BCY said:

ethics? in a game where it is allowed to attack in anonymity? where you can never know the power of the enemy? are we kidding? now even the missiles have an unknown power. but let's do it. in a war game I must 

1. know my enemy 

2. understand how much strength he has 

3. know how much damage I do in attack. 

If this information is kept secret by plarium and these anonymous behaviors are managed and tolerated by plarium, do not talk to me about ethics, because I will be unethical.

I do get your point, everyone has a right to defend themselves but remember if you are asking to basically see behind the red veil you've also got to be willing to show whats behind yours. 

Not sure how they would go about doing it, maybe with every scout you send to recon a base if its successful and you get to see whats in the base maybe the scout should leave a note telling that base how much firepower you have. who knows maybe they'll re-tweak the missiles concept or better yet give the color guard something to do and turn that truck into an anti-missile rocket. 

Is your last sentence a clue of a game feature to come??