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Вопрос об х10 и куче героев.

Sep 27, 2023, 10:5509/27/23

03/14/20

Вопрос об х10 и куче героев.

Наткнулся я тут на новости что будут добавлять еще героев в игру, пошел и игру и не поленился, посчитал и вышло что в ней уже есть 241 легендарных героев. Шанс призвать из сакрала 6% при х2 он 12% что не так и много в целом, но падают леги порой.

Для примера будет брать повышенный шанс.

Обратился за быстрым рассчетом к ИИ и вот:

Для рассчета вероятности выпадения каждого из 241 легендарного героя в игре с шансом призыва из камня в 12%, вы можете использовать следующую формулу:

Вероятность выпадения конкретного героя = (Шанс призыва из камня) / (Количество легендарных героев)

В вашем случае:

Вероятность выпадения конкретного героя = 0.12 (12%) / 241 = 0.0004971, или примерно 0.04971% вероятность выпадения каждого героя.

Теперь, если у вас есть событие на х10 для определенного героя, вероятность выпадения этого героя будет увеличиваться в 10 раз, так как вы умножаете исходную вероятность на 10.

Таким образом, вероятность выпадения конкретного героя в событии на х10 будет:

0.0004971 (исходная вероятность) * 10 = 0.004971, или примерно 0.4971% вероятность выпадения этого героя в событии на х10.

Так вот вопрос:

Вероятность выпадение из осколка определенного героя все равно слишком уж мала, будет ли команда Плариум проробатывать данный вопрос? По сути х10 уже не особо то и работает, на первых парах было намного проще выбить нужного героя из события, ну а сейчас же нужно слить огромное число осколков чтобы этот х10 сработал. По крайне мере это наблюдается на своем личном опыте открытий под х10 и разных блогеров которые так же открывают сотнями и не всем везет выбить желанный х10

Да и вообще шанс выпадение мал ибо х10 редко попадает под х2, поэтому рассчет и был на сакралы, про другие камни вообще можно молчать ибо там шансы еще ниже.

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Nasta

Sep 27, 2023, 11:2209/27/23

08/23/19

572

если это не принесет прибыль, ничего никто делать не будет. Я вон сколько пишу на форуме), только ноль без палочки.

Просто забей.

Лекс_1964UA

Sep 27, 2023, 16:3909/27/23

11/28/21

422

У нас в клане старые игроки уходят 1 в месяц из за того, что не могут получать лег из никаких вообще осколков. Разочарование полное.

JarlWhistUA

Sep 27, 2023, 17:4309/27/23

03/14/20

Лекс_1964UA

Да я сам уже в рейд играю просто уже по привычке, можно сказать мышечная память зайти тыкнуть, босса пнуть. Уже мало что интересного осталось в игре. Ну да, добавили новый контент, добавили хренову тучу героев, а толку? Мне вот не кем ходить в новый контент и что разработчики мне предлагают? Убить несколько лет еще либо же задонатить дохрена и больше? Хотя осколки более менее приходят, анкил на КБ, заходы, квесты и тд. А толку?

JarlWhistUA

Sep 27, 2023, 17:4409/27/23

03/14/20

Nasta

Просто забей.

Я просто скоро забью на сам рейд, да и все, и так играю уже просто по привычке без особого интереса как раньше. В крайнем случае пойти есть куда

Dron

Sep 27, 2023, 21:4409/27/23

04/17/22

1462

Вся суть этого казино и сводится к "нужно слить огромное число осколков".

FreezyModerator

Sep 28, 2023, 11:0909/28/23

04/21/22

209

Легендарних героїв Сили, Духу і Магії сумарно 171 (з Пандою, яку додадуть сьогодні - 172).

З Сакральних уламків також НЕ можуть випасти: (1)Скіла Окрилена, (2)Клео, (3)Гурда Зіллєварка, (4)Арикс, (5)Тея Янгол Смерті, (6)Голлок, (7)Ніндзя, (8)Варл, (9)Ба Сата, (10)Васал Таврований, (11)Олександр Стріловержець, (12)Ґроньяр, (13)Кромакс Срібноликий, (14)Кронем, (15)Ронда, (16)Сірша Вогниста, Сун Вуконг (але його не рахуємо, бо це тільки до 31 жовтня він не випадає) - загалом не випадає ще 16 героїв. 172-16=156

Шанс на конкретного легендарного героя 1/156 ~ 0,64%, з х10 - 6,4%. З одного сакрала на конкретного легендарного героя буде ~0,38%, але для цього й існує система компенсації, тому шанси зростають з кожним наступним уламком після 12. (Це без х2, бо х2 і х10 дуже рідко одночасно, але якщо брати х2, то цей шанс вже ~0,77%).

Щодо кращих шансів призову (х20 чи х30) поки конкретної відповіді немає, але також є події на Гарантований призов, зробили Райдужні кристали з обмеженим пулом героїв, де шанси отримати певного героя вищі за подію х10, але звісно ж з обмеженою кількістю отримання Райдужних кристалів, але гравці вже знайшли "лайф-хак" з ними. Можливо згодом ще щось буде цікаве.

Я останні рази під х10 відкривався і отримав Хариму (з синіх, пощастило не по гаранту навіть) і Ельву (з сакралів з 19-го уламка, не дуже хотів дубль, але під злиття прийшлось відкритись).

JarlWhistUA

Sep 29, 2023, 14:5209/29/23

03/14/20

Freezy

Легендарних героїв Сили, Духу і Магії сумарно 171 (з Пандою, яку додадуть сьогодні - 172).

я последний раз получил под х10 Купидуса который был в конце зимы, начале весны, ну и Теодора я получил, но уже после того как х10 на него прошел. Даже не смотря на то что их 156, все равно шансы криво работают, вот и решил поинтересоваться. А что касаемо радуги, то я в самом начале как только ввели открыл раза 2-3 получил рарок, так более и не получал их.

Драгниру

Sep 29, 2023, 15:1509/29/23

08/22/21

811

Freezy

Легендарних героїв Сили, Духу і Магії сумарно 171 (з Пандою, яку додадуть сьогодні - 172).

Только вот радужные такая же шляпа, как и х10.

Лекс_1964UA

Sep 29, 2023, 17:1109/29/23

11/28/21

422

JarlWhistUA

Если купить примерно 150 сакралов, добавить своих штук 20, и открыть под х2 то может выйти как в стримах некоторых - штуки 4-5 ненужных тебе или вообще мусорных лег. И что тогда? Локоть себе откусить? Игра названа разработчиком "коллекционной" - но мне лично это не надо. Я ж не фанат накопления всякого мусора, шлака. У меня везде ходят герои общедоступные: Скилла, Митрала, Дрекстар, Генбо, ВВ, Сун Вуконг. Мне дешевле и проще заработать серебра, переодеть их, и усилить - чем донатить непонятно во что.

P.S. если что, присоединяйся в мой клан. Может, интерес к игре чуток вырастет.

JarlWhistUA

Sep 30, 2023, 12:1009/30/23

Sep 30, 2023, 12:37(edited)

03/14/20

Лекс_1964UA

P.S. если что, присоединяйся в мой клан. Может, интерес к игре чуток вырастет.

Это не колекционная игра, коллекционная это новая Watcher of Realms там героя усилил полностью дублями и он даже если и выпадет сразу дает тебе ресурс чтоб купить что-то из других приколюшек, а Рейд не похож на коллекционную, тут скорее подходит термин рандомайзер или что-то подобное. Конечно плары сделали прикол что можно легу засунуть в легу, но зачем мне мусорные? в корм только кидать. Да и в целом суть поста была про не рабочую систему х10😁

Что касается клана, спасибо за предложение, я состою в не плохом, сильно ничего не требуют, играю в удовольствие так сказать.

Пост отредактирован модератором Rina_Mari. Просим не нарушать правил Форума вдальнейшем.

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Шанс призвать из сакрала 6% при х2 он 12% что не так и много в целом, но падают леги порой. \",\"type\":\"unstyled\",\"depth\":0,\"inlineStyleRanges\":[],\"entityRanges\":[],\"data\":{}},{\"key\":\"6b47v\",\"text\":\"Для примера будет брать повышенный шанс.\",\"type\":\"unstyled\",\"depth\":0,\"inlineStyleRanges\":[],\"entityRanges\":[],\"data\":{}},{\"key\":\"fjpvu\",\"text\":\"Обратился за быстрым рассчетом к ИИ и вот:\",\"type\":\"unstyled\",\"depth\":0,\"inlineStyleRanges\":[],\"entityRanges\":[],\"data\":{}},{\"key\":\"pp5r\",\"text\":\"Для рассчета вероятности выпадения каждого из 241 легендарного героя в игре с шансом призыва из камня в 12%, вы можете использовать следующую 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Ну да, добавили новый контент, добавили хренову тучу героев, а толку? Мне вот не кем ходить в новый контент и что разработчики мне предлагают? Убить несколько лет еще либо же задонатить дохрена и больше? Хотя осколки более менее приходят, анкил на КБ, заходы, квесты и тд. 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З одного сакрала на конкретного легендарного героя буде ~0,38%, але для цього й існує система компенсації, тому шанси зростають з кожним наступним уламком після 12. (Це без х2, бо х2 і х10 дуже рідко одночасно, але якщо брати х2, то цей шанс вже ~0,77%). \",\"type\":\"unstyled\",\"depth\":0,\"inlineStyleRanges\":[],\"entityRanges\":[],\"data\":{}},{\"key\":\"64emh\",\"text\":\"Щодо кращих шансів призову (х20 чи х30) поки конкретної відповіді немає, але також є події на Гарантований призов, зробили Райдужні кристали з обмеженим пулом героїв, де шанси отримати певного героя вищі за подію х10, але звісно ж з обмеженою кількістю отримання Райдужних кристалів, але гравці вже знайшли \\\"лайф-хак\\\" з ними. 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Даже не смотря на то что их 156, все равно шансы криво работают, вот и решил поинтересоваться. 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