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I need some help with Vogoth for CB.

Aug 18, 2022, 03:0908/18/22

05/07/22

I need some help with Vogoth for CB.

So I asked for your advice on CB teams, took notes, then realized I'm F2P and dont have 9/10 champs that you guys suggested built, so I umm, kinda just stuck with my Kalvalax/Ninja/Ursala/nonexistantgeomancer/Scyl comp. But I want to replace Scyl with Vogoth, and I have 2 opinions that I dont know what to do with. The opinions are below.

I know to stick with the Giant Slayer and acc, but its the spd that has me divided.

Thanks in advance!

-Stryker

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kramaswamy.kr

Aug 18, 2022, 04:0408/18/22

06/25/20

6640

For context - the two threads of relevance are:

https://plarium.com/forum/en/raid-shadow-legends/674_game-discussion/632809_who-should-my-5th-60-be/

and

https://plarium.com/forum/en/raid-shadow-legends/674_game-discussion/620584_drexthar-or-ninja/

I'll post some other feedback tomorrow.

harleQuinnModerator

Aug 18, 2022, 04:0608/18/22

Aug 18, 2022, 04:07(edited)

02/24/19

7822

You do want speed, cause you want Vogoth to reliably keep leech up and going. His heal on hits are not enough to keep the team up all by themselves.

You also want to speed tune the team, and when you do that all 5 champ speeds are important. I can look in these other threads and see what was recommended in there.

harleQuinnModerator

Aug 18, 2022, 04:1808/18/22

02/24/19

7822

Looks like this is the roster.... I agree with Kram's and Thorne's recomendation to run Jhareg, Vogoth, Venomage and Ninja as our core team.

However, I get what you mean that it will be a while before you get there. :) Building that first solid CB team is a great thing to invest in though. You'll keep seeing improvements as you build Vogoth, then Venomage. Hopefully by the time you finish Jhareg for Ally Protect, you'll pull a Block Debuffs champ like Grizzled Jarl that will round out the team. :)

Stryker178

Aug 18, 2022, 13:4408/18/22

05/07/22

FTSizzle

Aug 18, 2022, 14:0108/18/22

08/22/21

222

harleQuinn

Looks like this is the roster.... I agree with Kram's and Thorne's recomendation to run Jhareg, Vogoth, Venomage and Ninja as our core team.

I'd use Giscard for the 5th slot as he brings decrease ATK, shield, INC DEF and INC ATK.

dthorne04Moderator

Aug 18, 2022, 16:1908/18/22

12/30/20

6027

I think we're in pretty good shape on damage mitigation save for a block debuffs champ, like Quinn mentioned. In most ways Jareg alone does Giscard's job better, especially given how strong Ally Protection is.

Think if we wanted more mitigation while trying to find a better fifth champ I'd go Ursala, or go Kalvalax for a DPS option.

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