I think this is probably the team you should be looking to build:

https://deadwoodjedi.com/speed-tunes/super-charged-hellcat/

I'm looking into a similar one, using Brogni instead of Cardiel. The other two I plan on using are Dark Kael and Narma. For you, I'd probably look at using Fayne and Narma.

Hmm Im asking myself, if Fayne and Narma can both deal more damage than Zavia and Fushan..

And if yes, why would that be? What make them better than Zavia and Fushan?

Poisons tend to outdo face damage until you reach pretty high gear levels. Also, neither Zavia nor Fu-Shan bring Weaken. Still - it's not a bad idea to try the different team options out and see what works best for you.

Hey @Piper_Piper, no need to bump the thread. :)

Narma brings strong poisons with poison sensitivity and debuff extension, while Fayne brings weaken, more poisons and decrease defense while hitting fairly hard. 

edit: I am slow, again

Hmm the thing is zavia and fu shan wouldnt need to bring weaken and decrease defense, because Helicath already has weaken and Martyr has decrease defense on their A1.

And with ally attacks and counterattacks Zavia would bring tons of poisons already with her A1, so bringing in another poisoner or poison extender wouldnt be necessary. Poison sensitivity is nice.. but is it worth it?

So thats  why I am still not sure if Narma and Fayne could outdamage Fushan and Zavia in this team  comp

Well, since you're waffling, you can always try both and see which works better for you. 

Personally, I am a fan of going with Fayne. I use her myself and she smacks quite hard. Then I might go with Venomage to blow up poisons and stack more.

Really, if you're using CA or Ally Attack, you want only champs that smack HARD on their A1s. Even better if they can do things with their A1s too.

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Finally did unm cb 1 key :) I dont have the best gear though, so there is a lot room for improvement. Especially with Fu Shan as lead I can have low speed and build my champs for more damage

@Piper_Piper ....  What stats do you have on Helicath and what sets of gear?

@Piper_Piper .... Thx for sharing.  

Do you need lifesteal on these teams?  I keep finding the makeup of teams, the speeds speeds but not the actual gear they need - the link to Deadwood has the team but not what gear to use to keep them alive thanks

You can build helicath with much defense. He will take the stun damage with shield. And he will protect the others with block damage buff, which means you can build the others squishy and go max damage. Its just important that you have someone in the team that casts block debuffs or can cleanse the stun, when helicath takes the stun hit. 

So ho healing required at all.

There's two versions of the Helicath teams. The first relies on just block damage throughout. The second relies on the big shield from his block damage disappearing to protect the person who gets stunned. For that second team to work, you'll need something like Leech to heal that person back up, or they'll probably eventually die to the stun.

The team that OP posted uses Cardiel's heal to do that work.

Thank you - would a booked Black Knight do? A2 is two turn continuous heal  and 60% increase defence on a 2 turn cooldown

And if I use relentless occasionally that continuous heal will stack?

You *cannot* use relentless on CB. It is 100% the death of your team. It messes up the buffs on your champs. *Especially* for a team built around something like Helicath's block damage.

You could use Black Knight, sure, but I'd argue he doesn't have much value on that team. You should probably start a new thread and post your roster, I'm sure we can help you find the optimal team based on what you have.

No Relentless, no Anax or similiar champs that can take a random extra turn.

Thanks all - back to the drawing board then :)

hi, i run a similar team with cardiel and heli, i have 2 dps champ that are taurus, bad el kazar, and fahrakin, can i see your speed setup, masteries and if work on all affinities cm nightmare and ultra?, nerk#0947, feel free to contact me in discord if you want.

Well done, 1 keying with a 1:1 team is no small feat.