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Apr 12, 2022, 15:2204/12/22
06/25/20
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New fusion champ

Looks like my theory was correct - arena-focused fusions are coming. This guy is a straight counter to Stoneskin Cardinal builds. Expect to see him on many arena defense teams :)

Does raise an interesting question, though. If you kill this guy then die to his passive, is the fight a draw?

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Apr 12, 2022, 15:3504/12/22
06/25/20
6638

Actually, on thinking about it - this champ is just silly for arena, and I guarantee something about him is going to get changed/nerfed.

Souldrinker x2 (at level 1) + Gaius (at level 1) + Someone who is super-tough and won't die to the first hit.

Basically insta-win just about any arena fight.

Apr 12, 2022, 15:5604/12/22
07/08/19
980
kramaswamy.kr

Actually, on thinking about it - this champ is just silly for arena, and I guarantee something about him is going to get changed/nerfed.

Souldrinker x2 (at level 1) + Gaius (at level 1) + Someone who is super-tough and won't die to the first hit.

Basically insta-win just about any arena fight.

maybe on offense, if you pick your opponents carefully. way too easy to counter to use as your defense team.

regarding the draw, my instinct would be that you would win. as written it seems like he has to be considered dead in order for his passive to trigger, so if he were the last champion on his side then his team would have already lost when the other team gets wiped. but thats mostly just speculation; i could be wrong.

regardless, i needed a fusion event, so this is great news.

Apr 12, 2022, 16:0804/12/22
10/11/20
366

Based  on other  games  that  i  played,  I  believe  in  this  case  too  whoever  dies  last  -  wins  the  match

Apr 12, 2022, 16:1504/12/22
11/29/20
409

He's a counter to stoneskin and swift parry.  Two OP sets.

Arena will probably go back to what it was a last week once this fusion is over lol

Apr 12, 2022, 20:3804/12/22
02/29/20
609

Hmm.  Don't  think  this  guy  will  really  fit  into  arena  teams,  just  too  much  situationallity.  Overall  one  of  the  lower  tier  fusions  in  my  opinion,  B  or  C  Tier,  unless  his  multipliers  end  up  being  insane,  his  AOE  attack  in  particular.

Apr 12, 2022, 20:4004/12/22
02/13/21
823

I just don't see bombs as being a counter to stoneskin yet.  I feel like they need to do something more with those debuffs..

harleQuinnModerator
Apr 12, 2022, 20:5204/12/22
02/24/19
7821

Well, there's the next fusion. No rest for the wicked.

And @kramaswamy.kr, I expect that this passive will work just like the other bomb explosion passives in the game, that he will die, and your team will survive.

Apr 12, 2022, 20:5604/12/22
06/25/20
6638
harleQuinn

Well, there's the next fusion. No rest for the wicked.

And @kramaswamy.kr, I expect that this passive will work just like the other bomb explosion passives in the game, that he will die, and your team will survive.

Nobody else does what he does, though. His passive specifically reads that he detonates the bombs upon death. So, unless that effect is ignored if he is the last survivor, and thus you lose the fight?

harleQuinnModerator
Apr 12, 2022, 21:3904/12/22
Apr 12, 2022, 21:40(edited)
02/24/19
7821
kramaswamy.kr

Nobody else does what he does, though. His passive specifically reads that he detonates the bombs upon death. So, unless that effect is ignored if he is the last survivor, and thus you lose the fight?

If his death is the trigger for the bomb detonation, and he is the last enemy champ, then when he dies there are no more enemies and you win before the bomb kerplosion finishes!

(Or at least that is how I suspect it will work. If it works the other way, would be surprised, but would make for some crazy builds. I will ask for clarification for you, cause it might matter to people debating going for him. Especially literally one week after the last fusion finishes -_-)

Apr 12, 2022, 23:1004/12/22
02/11/22
533

Souldrinker's passive can be made to look a bit like this one. If you kill him and he gets revived and 2 turns later you kill him again and battle ends. I would think the bombs explode, but because the cooldown from 1st death tells them to...

Is that about right?

Apr 13, 2022, 00:4004/13/22
06/25/20
6638
Swiftblade

Souldrinker's passive can be made to look a bit like this one. If you kill him and he gets revived and 2 turns later you kill him again and battle ends. I would think the bombs explode, but because the cooldown from 1st death tells them to...

Is that about right?

They are very different. Souldrinker just puts bombs when he dies. New guy *detonates* bombs when he dies. That's why there's a question as to how it evaluates. There'll never be a scenario where Souldrinker dying causes any ambiguity.

Apr 13, 2022, 02:3604/13/22
12/19/19
6290

So much for that break Quinn and kram promised was happening...


harleQuinnModerator
Apr 13, 2022, 02:3904/13/22
02/24/19
7821
Trips

So much for that break Quinn and kram promised was happening...


I promised nothing!!!!!

harleQuinnModerator
Apr 13, 2022, 02:4104/13/22
02/24/19
7821

P.S. I might have been told BEFORE Nari that Nari was almost certainly going to be delayed, but when he wasn't....NO BREAK. 

The news caught me too, cause I spent my saved ancients and voids on the events, and will forever be 15 short on Nari lol

Apr 13, 2022, 04:1704/13/22
06/25/20
6638
harleQuinn

P.S. I might have been told BEFORE Nari that Nari was almost certainly going to be delayed, but when he wasn't....NO BREAK. 

The news caught me too, cause I spent my saved ancients and voids on the events, and will forever be 15 short on Nari lol

Forever until they do another catch-up anniversary event, at least :)

Apr 13, 2022, 07:1004/13/22
02/06/21
57

I dont see stoneskin that much that I really need bomb champs tbh

dthorne04Moderator
Apr 13, 2022, 07:2204/13/22
Apr 13, 2022, 07:22(edited)
12/30/20
6024
Metailurus

I dont see stoneskin that much that I really need bomb champs tbh

Stoneskin is only going to become more widely used, so there's a reasonable chance you might want Gaius in the near future. :)


Apr 13, 2022, 12:2504/13/22
05/03/20
1823

When will the Gaius fusion arrive?  Is there a way to prepare ahead of time?

Apr 13, 2022, 13:1904/13/22
07/08/19
980
ClosedPoly

When will the Gaius fusion arrive?  Is there a way to prepare ahead of time?

fusion is supposed to start on the 19th. best way to prepare is to srockpile resources in the game and clear your schedule outside it;

Apr 13, 2022, 13:2604/13/22
05/03/20
1823

@Carpe_Piscis    

Any specific resources?  I am retired.  My schedule is always clearl.  lol