Idk. But Ive had this happen to me before too. I'm curious as to what it is that causes this.

This  is  a good  question.   Site  unseen  i  cant  think  of  any.  id  like  to  see  a  video  so  I  could  watch  it    

Regardless  i  took  a  SS  and  sent  it  to  some  other  mods  for  opinions.    circle  back  aroune  to  you  soon      

Asked  around ,  Ophelia  Later  and  got  some  blank  stares .       We  will  need  a  video  of  this  one .    

Also ,  tell  me  Your  comp.  If  i  have  the  champs  ill  test  it  myself    

It's not a specific comp. Like I said - if I could get an example to post, I would. I just notice every so often, after the fact, champs losing their turn from a sleep debuff despite obviously having a poison debuff on them (since they still have it after losing the turn).

I'm always trying to capture it, I just haven't managed to do so yet.

My inclination is this should be an ordering thing, like you are suspecting it might be kram. I will try to look for opportunities where I can test this. If you or anyone else gets a chance to do so first, please let us know how it goes. :)

I'm running DT with a team full of poisoners (BEK, Kymar x2, Elenaril, Maulie), and I can absolutely confirm this DOES happen. But I swear to god, every time I turn autobattle off and take a screenshot, the guy gets a turn. I'll keep looking for a specific occurance, though.

We've got some video evidence within the mod team now of it happening. Now we're actively looking into it. :)

Awesome! I'm glad to hear I'm not insane :)

I always thought the same.... no clue how it works... 

This does not prove you aren't, Krama! XD XD

Well. Fair. But at least you have repro evidence now :)

Hopefully the problem will be solved soon and we can continue our journey with one less bug :)

Okay. I think I've narrowed it down. I believe if the poison debuff is *before* the sleep, then the champ will not wake up. If it is *after*, then it will.

Seems to be the conclusion we have so far as well

Some more feedback - it doesn't seem quite as simple as just this. I had a full screen of enemies all with poisons on them from BEK, whom I then slept with Kymar.

As expected, the *first* of them suffered the poison damage but then did not get a turn. However, the next one took the poison damage and then *did* get a turn.

Necro bot.  Closing.