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How does "Holy Equity" of Castigator work?

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Mar 24, 2022, 14:1703/24/22
03/11/22
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How does "Holy Equity" of Castigator work?

Description: "Heals the ally with the lowest HP by 20% of this Champion's MAX HP, then equalizes the HP levels of all allies and grants this Champion an Extra Turn."

So, it is basically a two-part-heal:

  • Heal the lowest HP Champion
  • Equalize the HP levels of all allies


My main question is: To what level does he equalize the HP? My guess would be the highest percentage in the team. As it is worded here it also could be an average or it could even be based on absolute values.

Additional question: Given he equalizes to the highest percentage of HP currently in your team. Then, the heal in the beginning might be worthless, right? The lowest HP Champion would have to become the highest HP Champion to make a difference.

So maybe the equalization is an average? Or, does he equalize to the HP level of the Champion he just healed, no matter what?🤔


As you see, I'm kind of lost here. I would be very thankful for some clarity on that. 😃



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Mar 24, 2022, 14:2803/24/22
06/25/20
6638

I gotta say - I almost didn't open this thread. The way you worded it, I was sure it was going to be another spam post pumping some BS cannabis product or something like that.

Regarding your question - the documentation is incredibly light, but I *think* it will equalize to the highest HP% champ on your team. I could absolutely be wrong though, because as you indicated, that heal would make no sense if that was how it worked. Perhaps it takes an average of the HP%?

Mar 24, 2022, 14:3803/24/22
12/19/19
6288

😆 at kram... I thought same


Mar 24, 2022, 15:1803/24/22
Mar 24, 2022, 15:20(edited)
03/11/22
6

Well... do you guys have any suggestion to word it differently? I mean, I'm new to the forum and haven't encountered those spam threads yet and kind of wanna know the answer 😔

dthorne04Moderator
Mar 24, 2022, 15:3203/24/22
12/30/20
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Fuslaf

Well... do you guys have any suggestion to word it differently? I mean, I'm new to the forum and haven't encountered those spam threads yet and kind of wanna know the answer 😔

You're fine. :) Just not a combination of words we usually see in a post title so the brain goes there. 

As for your question, as I understand equalize as a mechanic: after the heal takes place, I think it'll take an average of all your champs HP. I don't think it makes the heal useless though, because it will prevent your highest HP champ(s) from losing more HP. 

Mar 24, 2022, 16:3103/24/22
Mar 24, 2022, 16:52(edited)
03/11/22
6

I do agree, just from what makes more sense, the combination of "heal lowest HP Champ" + "equalize team to average HP" is the most appealing. I just couldn't confirm it yet and maybe Plarium thought of something different. 

We are currently doing some test. For now we are certain, that champs can lose HP due to the equalization, so it is defenitively not equalized to the highest HP champ.

So - like you said - an average looks very likely. But we will test some more to exclude other possibilities.

Also, it seems to be according to HP%, just to confirm the obvious. 🙈  


Mar 24, 2022, 16:3303/24/22
10/15/20
2041

It's interesting that Sinesha's equalize HP and Castigator's skill have a different wording in the skill descritpion. For Sinesha, it is: 

Equalizes the HP of all allies. The HP levels of all allies will be
brought up to the level of the ally with the highest HP. Then heals the
target ally by 10% of their MAX HP. 

I use her a lot, it definetly works like described. From the different description Castigator has, I guess his skill works differently. But I never used that champ, I didn't even know a champ with that name exists in Raid, so I can't say for sure.

Mar 24, 2022, 16:4703/24/22
Mar 24, 2022, 16:48(edited)
03/11/22
6

Yeah, definitely. We encountered Sinesha as well, while researching this. 

I guess it would be quite op, with the heal going first and then equalizing to the champ with highest HP.  

Mar 24, 2022, 17:0503/24/22
06/25/20
6638
Skadi

It's interesting that Sinesha's equalize HP and Castigator's skill have a different wording in the skill descritpion. For Sinesha, it is: 

Equalizes the HP of all allies. The HP levels of all allies will be
brought up to the level of the ally with the highest HP. Then heals the
target ally by 10% of their MAX HP. 

I use her a lot, it definetly works like described. From the different description Castigator has, I guess his skill works differently. But I never used that champ, I didn't even know a champ with that name exists in Raid, so I can't say for sure.

Admittedly this is what I was basing my conclusion on as well. But the wording on Sinesha explicitly states after equalizing, so the heal makes sense. For Castigator ... who knows?

Mar 24, 2022, 18:1003/24/22
Mar 24, 2022, 18:29(edited)
03/11/22
6

So, okay ... It is definitely based on an average. What kind of average is hard to identify, but it looks like it is as simple as:

Champ 1: 80%   80/100 HP               -> 90% 90/100 HP    

Champ 2: 80%   80/100 HP               -> 90% 90/100 HP

Champ 3: 100%   200/200 HP           -> 90% 180/200 HP

Champ 4: 100%   200/200 HP           -> 90% 180/200 HP

            -> 90% for all Champs


instead of:

Champ 1: 80%     80/100 HP            -> 93,3% 93,3/100 HP

Champ 2: 80%     80/100 HP            -> 93,3% 93,3/100 HP

Champ 3: 100%   200/200 HP          -> 93,3% 186,7/200 HP

Champ 4: 100%   200/200 HP          -> 93,3% 186,7/200 HP 

-> 560/600 HP-Pool -> 93,3% for all Champs 


I guess this goes too far and there are only very limited cercumstances, where this makes a difference. So it is also quite difficult to find out. My friend and I just had too much fun discussing it, so I thought I could share it.

Nevertheless it is an average, that seems certain now. 

Mar 24, 2022, 18:1903/24/22
12/19/19
6288
Fuslaf

So, okay ... It is definitely based on an average. What kind of average is hard to identify, but it looks like it is as simple as:

Champ 1: 80%   80/100 HP               -> 90% 90/100 HP    

Champ 2: 80%   80/100 HP               -> 90% 90/100 HP

Champ 3: 100%   200/200 HP           -> 90% 180/200 HP

Champ 4: 100%   200/200 HP           -> 90% 180/200 HP

            -> 90% for all Champs


instead of:

Champ 1: 80%     80/100 HP            -> 93,3% 93,3/100 HP

Champ 2: 80%     80/100 HP            -> 93,3% 93,3/100 HP

Champ 3: 100%   200/200 HP          -> 93,3% 186,7/200 HP

Champ 4: 100%   200/200 HP          -> 93,3% 186,7/200 HP 

-> 560/600 HP-Pool -> 93,3% for all Champs 


I guess this goes too far and there are only very limited cercumstances, where this makes a difference. So it is also quite difficult to find out. My friend and I just had too much fun discussing it, so I thought I could share it.

Nevertheless it is an average, that seems certain now. 

Thanks for sharing your testing, though I am still not exactly sure how it works :)

So do the champs end up at 90,90,180,180?


Mar 24, 2022, 18:2403/24/22
03/11/22
6

🙈 Yes, I should add that. That's at least how it looks. Quite difficult to measure the difference ^^

Mar 24, 2022, 18:4803/24/22
03/11/22
6

We had one Champ on low HP, around 20% let's say. He is also the one with by far the lowest MAX HP of the team and everyone else was at full HP.

After using Castigator's ability everyone ended up at around 85%, which feels too low for the second calculation considering the HP-distribution in the team. 

The problem is, that the two steps of the ability happen too fast in succession. So you can't see by what amount the initial part heals.

If I pull him from a shard, I might go into the numbers. Sadly, my friend who actually got him isn't into that. 😔