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Jul 10, 2021, 16:5207/10/21
03/16/20
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What’s up with Armiger?

My  Armiger  hits  like  a  fairy  even  with  his  a2  against  the  spider  (  lvl  17  ),  why?  Ok  he's  not  in  fantastic  gear  but  only  hitting  for  20k  damage?  What  gives?  My  coldheart  hits  fine  and  isnt  in  much  better  gear  at  all.

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Jul 10, 2021, 16:5307/10/21
03/16/20
48

He's  level  53  at  the  moment  by  the  way...

Jul 10, 2021, 17:0607/10/21
01/19/21
642

I'm assuming you're comparing Armiger A2 to Coldheart A3, in which case the explanation is likely that Coldheart scales off of 10% of the enemy max HP, while Armiger scales off of 5%. There's an atk/def component as well of course, but against bosses with high HP, the higher HP scaling will probably win. On the other hand, against an enemy with low HP, your Armiger may end up hitting harder, depending on their respective atk/def stats.

Jul 10, 2021, 17:1007/10/21
03/16/20
48

Sooooo...  upped  some  stats  slightly and  knocked  his  total,power  over  30,000  ....  and  now  Ive  seen  him  hit  for  165k ish damage  on  a  few  occasions....  😂  job  done  i  think  

Jul 10, 2021, 17:4707/10/21
06/25/20
6636
Eltox

Sooooo...  upped  some  stats  slightly and  knocked  his  total,power  over  30,000  ....  and  now  Ive  seen  him  hit  for  165k ish damage  on  a  few  occasions....  😂  job  done  i  think  

If you're building him for Spider, the only stats which matter are Crit Rate, Crit Damage, and Speed. Your defense is *way* too high for an effective nuke build.

Jul 10, 2021, 18:1807/10/21
04/14/20
1343
kramaswamy.kr

If you're building him for Spider, the only stats which matter are Crit Rate, Crit Damage, and Speed. Your defense is *way* too high for an effective nuke build.

Seems to me you missed the most important one... Accuracy? 

Jul 10, 2021, 18:2707/10/21
06/25/20
6636
L9753

Seems to me you missed the most important one... Accuracy? 

Admittedly I'm looking at it more from the perspective of an OTK team so - fair, if you're using Armiger for TM on Spider, then yeah you'll need accuracy as well.

Jul 10, 2021, 18:3307/10/21
Jul 10, 2021, 18:33(edited)
03/16/20
48
kramaswamy.kr

Admittedly I'm looking at it more from the perspective of an OTK team so - fair, if you're using Armiger for TM on Spider, then yeah you'll need accuracy as well.

Given  that  his  attacks  also scale  off  of  defense  i  think  the  high  def  is  worthwhile!  Not  too  worried  about  accuracy  but  he  seems  to  reduce  turnmeter  every  a1  at  the  moment...  plus  I  have  Scyl  in  the  team  for  that.

Jul 10, 2021, 19:0007/10/21
06/25/20
6636
Eltox

Given  that  his  attacks  also scale  off  of  defense  i  think  the  high  def  is  worthwhile!  Not  too  worried  about  accuracy  but  he  seems  to  reduce  turnmeter  every  a1  at  the  moment...  plus  I  have  Scyl  in  the  team  for  that.

His attack may scale off of defence, but the reason he is able to hit so hard on Spider is because his A2 scales off of Max HP. And that scales *way* more effectively than anything else. Honestly, ATK/DEF are 100% pointless for Armiger, Royal Guard, and other, similar champs - at least for Spider, that is.

Jul 10, 2021, 19:0907/10/21
03/16/20
48

Agreed  the  hp  max  is  the  biggest  influence  on  the  a2  but  i  want  the  a1  to  hit  hard  too  really.  i  guess  ill  try  a  few  gear  variants  and  see  what  works  best.