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Jul 4, 2021, 20:2507/04/21
01/19/21
642

Advice on legendary book use

I find myself with 38 legendary books, but I'm not sure who to spend them on. Right now I'm thinking my priority is Sethallia, Rhazin, Hurndig and Candraphon in that order. That'd add up to 28 to 46 books to get what I'm most interested in out of them, so I should be able to get at least the first 3 done even if my luck with the skills the game gives me suck. I've listed the ones I have below, as well as how my reasoning for them goes. Feel free to ignore/correct/comment as you see fit.


Minaya:

I would really like to get the cooldown down on her A3 to make her a more consistent healer, but that's about all the books would be good for. I'm also not so sure I actually need her, between Apothecary and Sethallia, since burst heal tends to be more important in my experience, and their cooldowns are much lower. Any book that doesn't go into A3 would be quite a waste. 4-14 books required, but probably quite inefficient use.

Candraphon:

I'm lacking in AoE champions, so getting his A2 cooldown reduced would be very nice to deal with waves. Being a damage dealer, the bonus damage on both the A1 and A2 would not hurt either. 5-9 books required for the A2 cooldown, so relatively cheap.

Sethallia:

I'm looking to use her as a replacement for Apothecary, with the cleanse helping out in locations like the spider. A2 cooldown is the priority, but both the buff chance and the cooldown of A3 would be great too. Buff chance on her A1 would also be nice, but 50% to 60% isn't that big of a deal or worth the 3 books if I can avoid it. 7-10 books required for maxing both A2 and A3.

Hurndig:

I'm torn. I'd want his debuff chances to hit 100%, cooldowns would be nice, but damn would it be expensive to fully book him. I'm sort of curious about his performance in spider, but I suspect I'd have to manual to get the most utility out of him (e.g. manually A1 on weak spiderlings to get his A3 cooldown reduced). For locations with less cannon fodder for him to feed on, the cooldown on A3 would be much more interesting. 8 books minimum to get just the debuff chances up, 11 to get the cooldowns as well, and worst case 15 required.

Scyl:

Will get her in a couple of weeks. She seems like she can do her job pretty well without books, but getting the debuff chance and cooldown up on her A2 couldn't hurt. 6 turn cooldown on her revive should be fine either way, and 30% to 50% chance for a 15% turn meter reduction doesn't seem worth worrying about. 5-11 books for her A2.

Drexthar:

Ready for fusion, just waiting for an event to get points. Like Scyl, not sure how much different the books would make. I'm mainly looking to use him as a spider tank, and while increased provoke/atk decrease chance on A2 and HP burn chance on the passive would certainly be nice, I don't really know if it's worth spending books on. 8-11 books to max A2 and passive.

Ruel the Huntsmaster:

Also ready for fusion. Not sure how to use him but he'd be my only spirit AoE nuker right now. I would imagine I'd want his A3 maxed to keep the hex active, which could be as cheap as 2 books. Cooldown on his nuke would be nice, but that's another 5 books. 2-11 books for A3, or 7-11 for A2 and A3.

Rhazin:

I'm one rare away from being able to fuse him, but might as well include him since it shouldn't be that far away. Getting his A2 to 100% chance would be my goal, with the cooldown being an added bonus. A3 has such a long cooldown that 1 less turn doesn't seem like a big deal. The chance on A1 wouldn't hurt either, but not a priority. 5-12 books.

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Jul 4, 2021, 21:1007/04/21
06/25/20
6636

That is just a massive number of books. Very nice.

The general rule of thumb is to use books when you need cooldowns decreased or chance to land debuffs increased. That's where you get the maximum RoI.

From your list, Rhazin seems like a good choice if you plan to use him for CB. You want his A2 booked so the cooldown is on-par with CB rotation. Hurndig also makes for a great arena nuker, and can benefit from books for dungeons.

Jul 4, 2021, 21:5707/04/21
01/19/21
642

I haven't quite decided where to use them, but I'm leaning towards making Rhazin a CB champ, so that I can replace Serris and Athel with Rhazin and someone else with atk down (potentially Jareg to get a def up buff for free). For the rest I'm more focused on dungeons than the arena at the moment (though I'm even buying tokens right now to take advantage of the "new segments" to farm medals while it lasts), and I can't really afford to dedicate champions to the arena exclusively. Candraphon does alright as my arena nuker meanwhile.

Jul 4, 2021, 22:2307/04/21
12/19/19
6280

Pretty accurate assessment. Definitely want rhazin booked as you said with a3 optional. Scyl and drex great without books. Definitely want to make the cb replacements you are planning too.

Jul 4, 2021, 22:3407/04/21
04/14/20
1343

The ones I have and can comment on: 

- Sethallia: My first lego, so fully booked her, kind of by default. Even though she's amazing, with that powerful heal on a two turn cooldown as well as a good AOE buff strip, I have to admit I don't use her that much anymore. BL Faction Wars, certain situations in Doom Tower (she's especially good against the Celestial Griffin as she can solo him up to a certain point, or probably even the top ones if you give her crazy enough stats, but also on the Eternal Dragon, Nether Spider, Frost Spider,...) and 3v3 arena - definitely still some use, but nowhere in dungeons, CB or regular arena, now that I have Arbiter. 

- Scyl: Had her for ages, never booked her. Her use became very limited when I got Arbiter anyway, though now in DT there are a few fights where she's better than Arbi (or where it makes sense to use both together). Booking her or not mostly depends on how badly you need that AOE stun - if she's largely a dungeon carry for her heals and revives, as she was for me, she doesn't need books. 

- Drexthar: For a while I couldn't figure out what was so great about him or why he showed up so much in team recommendations for DT (hard DT, anyway). But once I got his passive fully booked and got to the tough fights where HP burn becomes increasingly effective compared to direct damage, I started to appreciate him more. For now I haven't continued to fully book his A2, though I might - almost entirely for DT, though. 

- Rhazin: Fully booked him, mostly use him in CB - that's mostly just the A2 indeed, the A3 and A1 are more for arena, if you use him there, or some DT fights. Though the A1 does help on non-void affinity CBs who buff themselves. 

- Hurndig: Only starting to build him - no books for now, might consider him in the future but right now my books are going to Astralon still. 

Jul 4, 2021, 22:3807/04/21
04/14/20
1343

I should add, for Drexthar, if you mainly use him as weak affinity tank on Spider (I don't, I have Kantra for that, though I might consider a switch for Spider 25 when I get there), I agree he probably doesn't need books, since the spiderlings would constantly target him even without any provoke and they'd hit him often enough that even his passive wouldn't need boosting. But in DT, you do kinda need the passive boosted. 

Jul 5, 2021, 13:4307/05/21
01/19/21
642

I might book Drexthar at some point when/if when I start using him elsewhere, but for now I feel I have more pressing priorities. I realize Sethallia will probably be left behind at some point, but she's relatively cheap and safe to book and right now I sort of need her kit. I'm struggling hard with spider, so her plus Hurndig (who can also do wave AoE on other bosses) are looking like attractive options.

Jul 5, 2021, 14:3807/05/21
12/19/19
6280

Drex doesn't need books for spider or DT, what level spider u trying to beat?

Jul 5, 2021, 15:2307/05/21
01/19/21
642

At this point, I can auto 13 and usually manual 14 if I don't get really unlucky. Auto 14 is possible as well, but fails more often than not. I've got Paragon, so I might be able to manual past the bad affinity stages, but I don't have the control and/or damage output to get away with it, especially if the spiderlings get ideas to target anyone else.

My spider team right now consists of Athel, Candraphon, Serris, Coldheart and Apothecary. I'm aiming to replace Apothecary with Sethallia for the added cleanse, debuff block, and turn meter control (HP burn won't hurt either). This is mainly why I'm looking to book her in the first place. I'm considering removing Serris and adding in Hurndig, and possibly replacing either Athel or Candraphon with my 2nd Coldheart once I have her built up. I'd lose the atk debuff by removing Serris, but I'd get more damage and turn meter control. I could also stick an Armiger in there for added turn meter control and max HP damage scaling. I may have to swap in Serris depending on affinity if Hurndig can't get the job done. If I can get away with using Paragon to tank manually until 16 and maybe 17 and then 20 somewhere down the road, I can use Drexthar as the weak affinity tank and hopefully be able to auto it with the turn meter control from Coldheart(s), Hurndig, and/or Armiger.

Jul 5, 2021, 17:4707/05/21
12/19/19
6280

With 2ch and armiger big spider should never get a turn. drex for burn and sethalia should work thru 20. drop armiger against blue, replace with scyl.  you may have other options i am not aware of too.  athel definitely drop, candraphon too.  hurndig i haven't built yet but obviously looks perfect with right team.

Jul 5, 2021, 18:0407/05/21
01/19/21
642

Oh I'm dropping both Athel and Candraphon, it's just a question of which one first. Hurndig has just about everything to combat spider: AoE def down/weaken/acc down/HP burn, a 100% turn meter reduction, AoE nukes. It just hurts my soul a bit when I think of the number of books I'd have to spend on him to get him to full potential.

At some point I'd like to try a team with Drexthar, Sethallia, 2x Coldhearts and Hurndig. 3x 100% turn meter reductions on a 4 turn CD should ensure spider never gets a turn if I can time them right, HP burns all around, def/acc debuffs as well as weaken, possibly even provoke and atk down if Drexthar can hit his debuffs, with a pretty strong heal and backup turn meter control from Sethallia. Only thing missing would be a def up or revive to make sure Drexthar doesn't bite it at an inopportune time.

Jul 6, 2021, 00:3907/06/21
05/13/19
2326

Hurndig  HP  Burn  seems  so  situational.

Jul 6, 2021, 00:5107/06/21
01/19/21
642

It is situational, but with the spider spawns spread out, so will their turn meters be, so there's a good chance it'll proc on 2-4 spiderlings. It's not the main attraction here though, it's really just an added bonus to the turn meter reduction and weaken debuff, and in this scenario Drexthar would be the main source of HP burn.

Sep 16, 2021, 16:0909/16/21
09/16/21
10

A huge number of books, that's great.

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Sep 16, 2021, 18:4809/16/21
02/24/19
7819

Closing this Necro. It is very cool how mnay books you had a couple months ago Edgnit! :D

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